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alma1 wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:Ngalaka wrote:The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest on this thread.
A few pointers in my view.
JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding his whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.
Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.
Reading today's dailies on how JJ (RIP) made his money....one is left to wonder whether he made his money genuinely. Talk of a paradox!! I'm also at loss to believe he had the moral ground to talk leave alone advocate matters corruption. When two thieves talk, one of them is telling the truth. The issue of if they have authority to speak is a non-issue. In fact, if you want to carry that as an argument, please don't forget to look at your current political leaders. Do they have the moral authority to talk about corruption and changing Kenyan when they themselves have stolen? Keep your arguments honest. The issues is someone killed him. You should be advocating for the killers to be found. Otherwise, you will end up like him. Obviously his killers were also his friends. So don't think your current friends aren't reading this and decide to off you later when you aren't friends. After all, you support such stuff happening. Word. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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keraka wrote:alma1 wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:Ngalaka wrote:The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest on this thread.
A few pointers in my view.
JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding his whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.
Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.
Reading today's dailies on how JJ (RIP) made his money....one is left to wonder whether he made his money genuinely. Talk of a paradox!! I'm also at loss to believe he had the moral ground to talk leave alone advocate matters corruption. When two thieves talk, one of them is telling the truth. The issue of if they have authority to speak is a non-issue. In fact, if you want to carry that as an argument, please don't forget to look at your current political leaders. Do they have the moral authority to talk about corruption and changing Kenyan when they themselves have stolen? Keep your arguments honest. The issues is someone killed him. You should be advocating for the killers to be found. Otherwise, you will end up like him. Obviously his killers were also his friends. So don't think your current friends aren't reading this and decide to off you later when you aren't friends. After all, you support such stuff happening. Word. @alma, this thread agreed long time ago...that the investigations be carried out and killers brought to book. But we need to interrogate the life and times of this man from the village who became a millionaire in ten years while @alma with his 50years he is still struggling to make ends meet!!
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Risasi Sufuri wrote:keraka wrote:alma1 wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:Ngalaka wrote:The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest on this thread.
A few pointers in my view.
JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding his whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.
Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.
Reading today's dailies on how JJ (RIP) made his money....one is left to wonder whether he made his money genuinely. Talk of a paradox!! I'm also at loss to believe he had the moral ground to talk leave alone advocate matters corruption. When two thieves talk, one of them is telling the truth. The issue of if they have authority to speak is a non-issue. In fact, if you want to carry that as an argument, please don't forget to look at your current political leaders. Do they have the moral authority to talk about corruption and changing Kenyan when they themselves have stolen? Keep your arguments honest. The issues is someone killed him. You should be advocating for the killers to be found. Otherwise, you will end up like him. Obviously his killers were also his friends. So don't think your current friends aren't reading this and decide to off you later when you aren't friends. After all, you support such stuff happening. Word. @alma, this thread agreed long time ago...that the investigations be carried out and killers brought to book. But we need to interrogate the life and times of this man from the village who became a millionaire in ten years while @alma with his 50years he is still struggling to make ends meet!! Why didn't you interrogate while he was still alive? How are you going to get that info when the source is dead. Tuache sideshows! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:keraka wrote:alma1 wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:Ngalaka wrote:The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest on this thread.
A few pointers in my view.
JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding his whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.
Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.
Reading today's dailies on how JJ (RIP) made his money....one is left to wonder whether he made his money genuinely. Talk of a paradox!! I'm also at loss to believe he had the moral ground to talk leave alone advocate matters corruption. When two thieves talk, one of them is telling the truth. The issue of if they have authority to speak is a non-issue. In fact, if you want to carry that as an argument, please don't forget to look at your current political leaders. Do they have the moral authority to talk about corruption and changing Kenyan when they themselves have stolen? Keep your arguments honest. The issues is someone killed him. You should be advocating for the killers to be found. Otherwise, you will end up like him. Obviously his killers were also his friends. So don't think your current friends aren't reading this and decide to off you later when you aren't friends. After all, you support such stuff happening. Word. @alma, this thread agreed long time ago...that the investigations be carried out and killers brought to book. But we need to interrogate the life and times of this man from the village who became a millionaire in ten years while @alma with his 50years he is still struggling to make ends meet!! Why didn't you interrogate while he was still alive? How are you going to get that info when the source is dead. Tuache sideshows! @Swenani you have hit the nail on the head. Jacob Juma is dead. Like really dead. Like shot in the head or chest depending on who's report you wanna believe. Risasi, let's interrogate one person in this government with the same vigor, shall we? Pick one. They are alive so we can actually make a difference. This is those hashtags that were just created for the sake of sanitizing an evil deed by evil people. (Probably his friends or former friends or those who thought he was tweeting noisily). If we say he was evil, its easy to turn our eyes away from the evil people still walking around. These fellows are actually watching this thread and wondering who among these fellas is next? Risasi why don't we interrogate the kind of mental pain the killers of a human being can possibly be going through right now. That serves the living more than the dead. But that's just my opinion. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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things are not always as they seem to be..who stands to gain most from his death? follow the clues.. Jacob Juma had tried to reach Jakom several times but RAO proved elusive. Jacob had to camp "outside" Raila's gate with no success. At death, Raila is now available, what a development of classic irony.......he could not even pick his calls... The cold-blooded murder of the controversial businessman was a meticulously planned job involving plotters who were his one-time business partners, bank rollers and hired assassins, highly conversant with summary executions.i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/8/2015 Posts: 166
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alma1 wrote:Swenani wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:keraka wrote:alma1 wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:Ngalaka wrote:The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest on this thread.
A few pointers in my view.
JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding his whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.
Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.
Reading today's dailies on how JJ (RIP) made his money....one is left to wonder whether he made his money genuinely. Talk of a paradox!! I'm also at loss to believe he had the moral ground to talk leave alone advocate matters corruption. When two thieves talk, one of them is telling the truth. The issue of if they have authority to speak is a non-issue. In fact, if you want to carry that as an argument, please don't forget to look at your current political leaders. Do they have the moral authority to talk about corruption and changing Kenyan when they themselves have stolen? Keep your arguments honest. The issues is someone killed him. You should be advocating for the killers to be found. Otherwise, you will end up like him. Obviously his killers were also his friends. So don't think your current friends aren't reading this and decide to off you later when you aren't friends. After all, you support such stuff happening. Word. @alma, this thread agreed long time ago...that the investigations be carried out and killers brought to book. But we need to interrogate the life and times of this man from the village who became a millionaire in ten years while @alma with his 50years he is still struggling to make ends meet!! Why didn't you interrogate while he was still alive? How are you going to get that info when the source is dead. Tuache sideshows! @Swenani you have hit the nail on the head. Jacob Juma is dead. Like really dead. Like shot in the head or chest depending on who's report you wanna believe. Risasi, let's interrogate one person in this government with the same vigor, shall we? Pick one. They are alive so we can actually make a difference. This is those hashtags that were just created for the sake of sanitizing an evil deed by evil people. (Probably his friends or former friends or those who thought he was tweeting noisily). If we say he was evil, its easy to turn our eyes away from the evil people still walking around. These fellows are actually watching this thread and wondering who among these fellas is next? Risasi why don't we interrogate the kind of mental pain the killers of a human being can possibly be going through right now. That serves the living more than the dead. But that's just my opinion. We have different opinions, you are entitled one, don't influence me into accepting your opinion....You may be right, I could also be right. Investigations, I leave it to the relevant institutions, I'm not an investigator myself!! I mourn JJ and may He fare thee well. However, as a young man with ambitions....I would want to replicate JJ successes by learning how a young man armed with a college certificate (Later he acquired other certificates) would be transformed to be a millionaire in a record time. We learn lessons not from living but also who may unfortunately left us such as Martin Luther King!!
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alma1 wrote:Swenani wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:keraka wrote:alma1 wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:Ngalaka wrote:The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest on this thread.
A few pointers in my view.
JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding his whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.
Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.
Reading today's dailies on how JJ (RIP) made his money....one is left to wonder whether he made his money genuinely. Talk of a paradox!! I'm also at loss to believe he had the moral ground to talk leave alone advocate matters corruption. When two thieves talk, one of them is telling the truth. The issue of if they have authority to speak is a non-issue. In fact, if you want to carry that as an argument, please don't forget to look at your current political leaders. Do they have the moral authority to talk about corruption and changing Kenyan when they themselves have stolen? Keep your arguments honest. The issues is someone killed him. You should be advocating for the killers to be found. Otherwise, you will end up like him. Obviously his killers were also his friends. So don't think your current friends aren't reading this and decide to off you later when you aren't friends. After all, you support such stuff happening. Word. @alma, this thread agreed long time ago...that the investigations be carried out and killers brought to book. But we need to interrogate the life and times of this man from the village who became a millionaire in ten years while @alma with his 50years he is still struggling to make ends meet!! Why didn't you interrogate while he was still alive? How are you going to get that info when the source is dead. Tuache sideshows! @Swenani you have hit the nail on the head. Jacob Juma is dead. Like really dead. Like shot in the head or chest depending on who's report you wanna believe. Risasi, let's interrogate one person in this government with the same vigor, shall we? Pick one. They are alive so we can actually make a difference. This is those hashtags that were just created for the sake of sanitizing an evil deed by evil people. (Probably his friends or former friends or those who thought he was tweeting noisily). If we say he was evil, its easy to turn our eyes away from the evil people still walking around. These fellows are actually watching this thread and wondering who among these fellas is next? Risasi why don't we interrogate the kind of mental pain the killers of a human being can possibly be going through right now. That serves the living more than the dead. But that's just my opinion. @alma the emphasis you make on such brutal acts being carried out by business rivals, former or current friends is scary!I know people are different but, i mean, is it ever that serious?? so serious to the point of taking another man's life? I refuse to believe that! Considering all this is vanity and we shall all die, the thought of mere mortals deciding to play God and scheming on how to eliminate another man and actually doing it pains me. Personally, @kabetes and Muchai's executions troubled my soul. Mostly because i still dont understand why someone can do that to another. Is there really any satisfaction to it? I highly doubt. This may sound naive, but does this mean that after his demise someone somewhere is sleeping more comfortably at night? that someones problems on earth are finally over? I wonder what the contract killers do with the money they are paid. Perhaps they drink it all away as they try to block any flashbacks of their actions. Or perhaps they dont. I just pray that the blood money isnt used to pay school fees for a kid somewhere.  The Best is Yet to Come
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What happened to "our" Mwawinder? Why has he not yet posted anything to mourn a man appeared to support in all his posts?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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koscielny wrote:alma1 wrote:Swenani wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:keraka wrote:alma1 wrote:Risasi Sufuri wrote:Ngalaka wrote:The fault-lines of political divide continue to manifest on this thread.
A few pointers in my view.
JJ was no Angel. It is possible that his less than clean business dealings could have caused his murder.
But again given the mystery surrounding his whole matter, the Police reaction and explanations seem to suggest elimination by persons with higher-up connections.
Obviously, Politicians as is wont of them want to milk this for maximum political advantage.
Reading today's dailies on how JJ (RIP) made his money....one is left to wonder whether he made his money genuinely. Talk of a paradox!! I'm also at loss to believe he had the moral ground to talk leave alone advocate matters corruption. When two thieves talk, one of them is telling the truth. The issue of if they have authority to speak is a non-issue. In fact, if you want to carry that as an argument, please don't forget to look at your current political leaders. Do they have the moral authority to talk about corruption and changing Kenyan when they themselves have stolen? Keep your arguments honest. The issues is someone killed him. You should be advocating for the killers to be found. Otherwise, you will end up like him. Obviously his killers were also his friends. So don't think your current friends aren't reading this and decide to off you later when you aren't friends. After all, you support such stuff happening. Word. @alma, this thread agreed long time ago...that the investigations be carried out and killers brought to book. But we need to interrogate the life and times of this man from the village who became a millionaire in ten years while @alma with his 50years he is still struggling to make ends meet!! Why didn't you interrogate while he was still alive? How are you going to get that info when the source is dead. Tuache sideshows! @Swenani you have hit the nail on the head. Jacob Juma is dead. Like really dead. Like shot in the head or chest depending on who's report you wanna believe. Risasi, let's interrogate one person in this government with the same vigor, shall we? Pick one. They are alive so we can actually make a difference. This is those hashtags that were just created for the sake of sanitizing an evil deed by evil people. (Probably his friends or former friends or those who thought he was tweeting noisily). If we say he was evil, its easy to turn our eyes away from the evil people still walking around. These fellows are actually watching this thread and wondering who among these fellas is next? Risasi why don't we interrogate the kind of mental pain the killers of a human being can possibly be going through right now. That serves the living more than the dead. But that's just my opinion. @alma the emphasis you make on such brutal acts being carried out by business rivals, former or current friends is scary!I know people are different but, i mean, is it ever that serious?? so serious to the point of taking another man's life? I refuse to believe that! Considering all this is vanity and we shall all die, the thought of mere mortals deciding to play God and scheming on how to eliminate another man and actually doing it pains me. Personally, @kabetes and Muchai's executions troubled my soul. Mostly because i still dont understand why someone can do that to another. Is there really any satisfaction to it? I highly doubt. This may sound naive, but does this mean that after his demise someone somewhere is sleeping more comfortably at night? that someones problems on earth are finally over? I wonder what the contract killers do with the money they are paid. Perhaps they drink it all away as they try to block any flashbacks of their actions. Or perhaps they dont. I just pray that the blood money isnt used to pay school fees for a kid somewhere. Don't worry about their kids and school fees. We all know what type of kids they normally have. The kids pay them in kind. Life is a strange thing. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Lol, just seen a video of an idiot who has hurt himself after hanging on the chopper carrying JJ's body. Ujinga ni ya kujipaka If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Dead men can't sue .So everyone can now stand on the rooftop and yell JJ was was a crook. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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kaka2za wrote:Dead men can't sue .So everyone can now stand on the rooftop and yell JJ was was a crook. Its not slander, they have been paid. Mimi hushangaa how much people are paid to be sycophants to the extent of celebrating people's death. I'm stating here without fear of ever contradicting that , if you pay me 500k I'm willing cc @Harrydre If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Meanwhile "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,716
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I thought Kibaki was being mean sometimes when he called people Pumbavu but surely how else would you describe this man. The helicopter even came down so that the idiot could jump off safely(putting not just the people on the ground but all on board in danger). The pilot had no other choice but to keep flying. Pumbavu deserves what he got.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Kusadikika wrote:I thought Kibaki was being mean sometimes when he called people Pumbavu but surely how else would you describe this man. The helicopter even came down so that the idiot could jump off safely(putting not just the people on the ground but all on board in danger). The pilot had no other choice but to keep flying. Pumbavu deserves what he got. and people made noise here when that jungu pilot beat up a cop for not controlling such idiets! See now this type of sh*T!! now this piece will start kuomba serikali for hospital bills to be paid. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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I was at Bungoma Uchumi picking items on our way with friends and here is my witness. As we are paying for our stuff, here comes Khawale on the back of men. He stops at the gate Bungoma teachers and as he is lowered, he offers 7k. His entourage accesses the place for lunch and refreshments. The silly crowd walks away, with nothing.....they are happy. I do not know what to call that kind of stupidity.... Inapita! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Haiya@Mawinder! yenyewe this guy could have probably been @kabetes Profile: mawinder Joined: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 Last Visit:Saturday, May 07, 2016 4:52:53 PMi.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:Haiya@Mawinder!
yenyewe this guy could have probably been @kabetes
Profile: mawinder
Joined: Wednesday, April 30, 2008
Last Visit:Saturday, May 07, 2016 4:52:53 PM
Fallen soldier...hats off... possunt quia posse videntur
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