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Safaricom FY 2016 results net profit up 19.6%
Shak
#21 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:10:48 PM
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Is this the right time to add more of this stock or is it best to wait?
Realtreaty
#22 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 11:04:48 AM
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Could Safcom find 20 this year as the balance? With all this strength Safcom could even divest to other sources of income. Real estate is very neutral as it could even use its money to build Serviced apartments, Hotel buildings, Office buildings ll for rent.
Safcom can invest in Public semi-government areas where it can help govt collect Taxes from those paying through their re-invented M-pesa where Individual or corporate tax information is at a click of a mouse.
Ebenyo
#23 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2016 3:44:35 PM
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Those who created 40 billion shares for safaricom during the 2008 IPO acted greedily for instant gratification.They didnt mind others who could have benefited in the long term.Now look at safaricom Eps of kshs 0.95 vs pe of kshs 18? when willthe pe ever come down and eps go up?
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murchr
#24 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2016 4:42:32 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Those who created 40 billion shares for safaricom during the 2008 IPO acted greedily for instant gratification.They didnt mind others who could have benefited in the long term.Now look at safaricom Eps of kshs 0.95 vs pe of kshs 18? when willthe pe ever come down and eps go up?



Tech companies are not best valued using PE's, its just too simplistic and it doesn't tell anything about the health of the business, the high PE factors in the anticipated growth.
YoY EBITDA would be the best way to value these companies. That's why value investors like Buffett try to keep off tech stocks. Amazon has a PE ratio of about 295, in Dec 2012, the PE ratio was about 3660.

What you should be looking at is 1. YoY growth, 2. Business model that is difficult to copy (MPESA) 3. Customer loyalty and segmentation 4. Margins.
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hisah
#25 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2016 8:37:44 PM
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Tested 16.60 pre FY results with no supply there after rallying to 17.85.

Bulls in control with new all time highs expected. Targets 18, 19 and 20 handles. Overshoot at 21.50.
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Spikes
#26 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2016 8:27:50 AM
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hisah wrote:
Tested 16.60 pre FY results with no supply there after rallying to 17.85.

Bulls in control with new all time highs expected. Targets 18, 19 and 20 handles. Overshoot at 21.50.



I am expecting a dramatic selloff to 15/- before a rebound towards 20s .
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Ebenyo
#27 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2016 8:51:33 AM
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murchr wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Those who created 40 billion shares for safaricom during the 2008 IPO acted greedily for instant gratification.They didnt mind others who could have benefited in the long term.Now look at safaricom Eps of kshs 0.95 vs pe of kshs 18? when willthe pe ever come down and eps go up?



Tech companies are not best valued using PE's, its just too simplistic and it doesn't tell anything about the health of the business, the high PE factors in the anticipated growth.
YoY EBITDA would be the best way to value these companies. That's why value investors like Buffett try to keep off tech stocks. Amazon has a PE ratio of about 295, in Dec 2012, the PE ratio was about 3660.

What you should be looking at is 1. YoY growth, 2. Business model that is difficult to copy (MPESA) 3. Customer loyalty and segmentation 4. Margins.


whats Y o Y?
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Shak
#28 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2016 9:18:24 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Those who created 40 billion shares for safaricom during the 2008 IPO acted greedily for instant gratification.They didnt mind others who could have benefited in the long term.Now look at safaricom Eps of kshs 0.95 vs pe of kshs 18? when willthe pe ever come down and eps go up?



Tech companies are not best valued using PE's, its just too simplistic and it doesn't tell anything about the health of the business, the high PE factors in the anticipated growth.
YoY EBITDA would be the best way to value these companies. That's why value investors like Buffett try to keep off tech stocks. Amazon has a PE ratio of about 295, in Dec 2012, the PE ratio was about 3660.

What you should be looking at is 1. YoY growth, 2. Business model that is difficult to copy (MPESA) 3. Customer loyalty and segmentation 4. Margins.


whats Y o Y?

Year On Year
Ericsson
#29 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:07:58 PM
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Safaricom CFO set to exit the company after a 5 year stint

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/4d45oqz/-/index.html
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Ebenyo
#30 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2016 7:56:40 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Safaricom CFO set to exit the company after a 5 year stint

http://www.businessdaily.../-/4d45oqz/-/index.html

Good news indeed! i think its because of the land scandal.Kudos vodafone,they are proving to be my good partner.Though i would prefer they bring back the 40% holding to us.
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