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simonkabz
#131 Posted : Monday, September 29, 2014 2:19:44 PM
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Robinhood wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Finally, magadi road dualling to start in Jan 2015. Now, we can only hope this will not open another floodgate of new migrants to rongai.


Your excitement tells the painful tale of Rongai people's republic. Hope this project will change it all.


Whenever a gava says something will start in Jan 2015, please add two years to the date. Before procurement iishe, wengine awaende kortini, wagawane kickbacks, contractor aanze, it will be another two years. Just ask Upperhill people, or those who thought Ngong road will be dualled 'next year'


Winners of the tenders will be announced this week.
Your skepticism is understandable, as we have suffered under the old order. But this Annuity model is a new strategy that is completely different, esp the funding part. So I really dont see why any contractor should delay and yet cash will be in plenty...


Problem is usually not with the contractor, it is with the eaters.

Hope the new model works though


Do you foresee any eating loophole, now that the contractors will be using their own money/loans from banks to finance the projects to completion? Sioni, labza the small time bribes to the engineers etc. Once the tender is won kwisha. The govt funded ones have the biggest eating loopholes as the officials blackmail you before releasing the contract money to complete projects.
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bkismat
#132 Posted : Monday, September 29, 2014 2:41:41 PM
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Joined: 10/23/2009
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simonkabz wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Finally, magadi road dualling to start in Jan 2015. Now, we can only hope this will not open another floodgate of new migrants to rongai.


Your excitement tells the painful tale of Rongai people's republic. Hope this project will change it all.


Whenever a gava says something will start in Jan 2015, please add two years to the date. Before procurement iishe, wengine awaende kortini, wagawane kickbacks, contractor aanze, it will be another two years. Just ask Upperhill people, or those who thought Ngong road will be dualled 'next year'


Winners of the tenders will be announced this week.
Your skepticism is understandable, as we have suffered under the old order. But this Annuity model is a new strategy that is completely different, esp the funding part. So I really dont see why any contractor should delay and yet cash will be in plenty...


Problem is usually not with the contractor, it is with the eaters.

Hope the new model works though


Do you foresee any eating loophole, now that the contractors will be using their own money/loans from banks to finance the projects to completion? Sioni, labza the small time bribes to the engineers etc. Once the tender is won kwisha. The govt funded ones have the biggest eating loopholes as the officials blackmail you before releasing the contract money to complete projects.


How does this annuity model work? Anyway there will reach a time when funds have to move from the GOK coffers to the private entities be they the Contractors or the Financiers. Hapo loophole lazima.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
Swenani
#133 Posted : Monday, September 29, 2014 3:00:15 PM
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Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
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simonkabz wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Finally, magadi road dualling to start in Jan 2015. Now, we can only hope this will not open another floodgate of new migrants to rongai.


Your excitement tells the painful tale of Rongai people's republic. Hope this project will change it all.


Whenever a gava says something will start in Jan 2015, please add two years to the date. Before procurement iishe, wengine awaende kortini, wagawane kickbacks, contractor aanze, it will be another two years. Just ask Upperhill people, or those who thought Ngong road will be dualled 'next year'


Winners of the tenders will be announced this week.
Your skepticism is understandable, as we have suffered under the old order. But this Annuity model is a new strategy that is completely different, esp the funding part. So I really dont see why any contractor should delay and yet cash will be in plenty...


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Prequalified bidders will be announced this week not winners
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Swenani
#134 Posted : Monday, September 29, 2014 3:08:38 PM
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Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
bkismat wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Finally, magadi road dualling to start in Jan 2015. Now, we can only hope this will not open another floodgate of new migrants to rongai.


Your excitement tells the painful tale of Rongai people's republic. Hope this project will change it all.


Whenever a gava says something will start in Jan 2015, please add two years to the date. Before procurement iishe, wengine awaende kortini, wagawane kickbacks, contractor aanze, it will be another two years. Just ask Upperhill people, or those who thought Ngong road will be dualled 'next year'


Winners of the tenders will be announced this week.
Your skepticism is understandable, as we have suffered under the old order. But this Annuity model is a new strategy that is completely different, esp the funding part. So I really dont see why any contractor should delay and yet cash will be in plenty...


Problem is usually not with the contractor, it is with the eaters.

Hope the new model works though


Do you foresee any eating loophole, now that the contractors will be using their own money/loans from banks to finance the projects to completion? Sioni, labza the small time bribes to the engineers etc. Once the tender is won kwisha. The govt funded ones have the biggest eating loopholes as the officials blackmail you before releasing the contract money to complete projects.


How does this annuity model work? Anyway there will reach a time when funds have to move from the GOK coffers to the private entities be they the Contractors or the Financiers. Hapo loophole lazima.


The model will work as follows:
1.The contractor will design, build and maintain the roads.
2.The contractor will source for funds
3.A payment modality will be agreed upon between the tripartite of the Government, contractor and bank (certification of works, milestones and assignment).
4.The Government will reimburse the consortium/banks at a uniform rate over an agreed period (annuity).
5.Contractors will complete contracted works within the stipulated time [not exceeding three (3) years].
6.Contractors will guarantee construction quality and undertake post-construction maintenance of roads.

If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
josimar
#135 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:18:05 AM
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Finally Kajiado Governor , Matatu saccos , KERRA and KURA held a roundtable to discuss the perennial traffic menance and impunity by the matatus along Magadi Road. Funds to be allocated for improvement of Masaai Lodge road to Rimpa Road which is an bypass instead of everyone passing through the congested town. It has been tough for anyone living in this side of town.

Gathige
#136 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:23:43 AM
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josimar wrote:
Finally Kajiado Governor , Matatu saccos , KERRA and KURA held a roundtable to discuss the perennial traffic menance and impunity by the matatus along Magadi Road. Funds to be allocated for improvement of Masaai Lodge road to Rimpa Road which is an bypass instead of everyone passing through the congested town. It has been tough for anyone living in this side of town.




@Josimar, Thanks for the update. Methinks the main gridlock is between Parkplace and Massai lodge turnoff, which on a bad day can last like 2hrs. If they can too think of that road Off Cooperative college, through Gataka and then to Rongai, it would too ease the traffic as can can access it through Karen and completely avoid Magadi road.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
masukuma
#137 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:38:03 AM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Gathige wrote:
josimar wrote:
Finally Kajiado Governor , Matatu saccos , KERRA and KURA held a roundtable to discuss the perennial traffic menance and impunity by the matatus along Magadi Road. Funds to be allocated for improvement of Masaai Lodge road to Rimpa Road which is an bypass instead of everyone passing through the congested town. It has been tough for anyone living in this side of town.




@Josimar, Thanks for the update. Methinks the main gridlock is between Parkplace and Massai lodge turnoff, which on a bad day can last like 2hrs. If they can too think of that road Off Cooperative college, through Gataka and then to Rongai, it would too ease the traffic as can can access it through Karen and completely avoid Magadi road.

If I remember correctly, there is a part of the stretch that connects Gataka road and cooperative college that is a private road. Personally, I don't even bother with Magadi road these days - labda usiku sana. They should also do Gataka road it's terrible.
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kysse
#138 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:41:06 PM
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I dont understand how residents commute daily here.
Just the other day we were cut off by seasonal rivers and were unable to get back to Nbo after a 1 hr.downpour.
Can't those bridges be raised??
The residents seem to enjoy all that so what to Say.Avoid those sides when it pours.
maka
#139 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:52:27 PM
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Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
kysse wrote:
I dont understand how residents commute daily here.
Just the other day we were cut off by seasonal rivers and were unable to get back to Nbo after a 1 hr.downpour.
Can't those bridges be raised??
The residents seem to enjoy all that so what to Say.Avoid those sides when it pours.


Enjoy how?
possunt quia posse videntur
streetwise
#140 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2016 8:32:16 AM
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The road need to be expanded and I hear it is actually those who have build on road reserves who are unwilling to move ?.

If that is the case then the goose is cooked, no more eggs.
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