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Kengen success
1masha
#161 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:46:55 AM
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murchr wrote:
The management of Kengen has to be the worst in communication

What did they do? Did they give communication and failed to include details just like you did in this post?
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#162 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 12:41:50 PM
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1masha wrote:
murchr wrote:
The management of Kengen has to be the worst in communication

What did they do? Did they give communication and failed to include details just like you did in this post?


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Ericsson
#163 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:24:39 PM
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Kengen cheated murchr on the timelines of the rights issue
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#164 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:44:21 PM
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sparkly wrote:
1masha wrote:
murchr wrote:
The management of Kengen has to be the worst in communication

What did they do? Did they give communication and failed to include details just like you did in this post?


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#165 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 2:29:24 PM
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1masha wrote:
murchr wrote:
The management of Kengen has to be the worst in communication

What did they do? Did they give communication and failed to include details just like you did in this post?



I will excuse you for being slow on following the discussion in this post. @ericsson chewed it for you
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washiku
#166 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 2:39:27 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
sparkly wrote:
1masha wrote:
murchr wrote:
The management of Kengen has to be the worst in communication

What did they do? Did they give communication and failed to include details just like you did in this post?


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murchr
#167 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:42:51 AM
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KenGen has said that it has been given the green light by Capital Markets Authority (CMA) and Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE) to raise Ksh 28.8 Billion through rights issue to the existing shareholders.

The NSE listed company will be offering a total of 4, 396, 722912 new shares at a price of Ksh 6.55 per share in the ratio of two for one. Register closes on Monday 16th May 2016.

KenGen says the offer price of Ksh 6.55 represents a discount of 18.33% to the weighted average of its share price on the NSE for the past 30 Days upto and including 4th May 2016, and 22.94% on the last trade price.

The Kenyan Government, which is a majority shareholder heard earlier on indicated that it was willing to take up its rights issue which equals about 70% of the total transaction through conversion of some of its debt into equity.



http://kenyanwallstreet....billion-via-rights-issue
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nashx
#168 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:49:02 AM
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Wondering if I should sell at a profit (bought at an average of 6.5)...7 to 8 Bob today and try get back in again near the rights issue prices
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Ericsson
#169 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:53:42 AM
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Halleluhya everything has come out just as I had predicted.
Offer price of 2:1 and price of sh.6.55
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nashx
#170 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 9:48:34 AM
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The share price is taking a hit. Demand at 5.05...I might as well become a buyer rather than a seller at those prices
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#171 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 9:52:51 AM
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nashx wrote:
The share price is taking a hit. Demand at 5.05...I might as well become a buyer rather than a seller at those prices

I hope it goes to below rights issue price Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
nashx
#172 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 9:56:08 AM
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watesh wrote:
nashx wrote:
The share price is taking a hit. Demand at 5.05...I might as well become a buyer rather than a seller at those prices

I hope it goes to below rights issue price Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Hope so too coz then I will buy more. How come I can't bid lower than 6.75 yet there are bids at lower prices. How are guys doing it?
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mthaka
#173 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 11:03:21 AM
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@Watesh hope is not a strategy,you better defend your rights or buy now and access the rights,
watesh
#174 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 11:07:34 AM
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mthaka wrote:
@Watesh hope is not a strategy,you better defend your rights or buy now and access the rights,

I prefer waiting after the rights issue when the new shares are in the market or buying below rights issue price now
mthaka
#175 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 11:16:16 AM
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@Watesh hope is not a strategy,you better defend your rights or buy now and access the rights,
Ericsson
#176 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 11:38:15 AM
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Link from their website

http://www.kengen.co.ke/...ports/Rights%20Issue.pdf
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ruwesh
#177 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:52:16 PM
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nashx wrote:
watesh wrote:
nashx wrote:
The share price is taking a hit. Demand at 5.05...I might as well become a buyer rather than a seller at those prices

I hope it goes to below rights issue price Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Hope so too coz then I will buy more. How come I can't bid lower than 6.75 yet there are bids at lower prices. How are guys doing it?


those are guys who had put purchase bids earlier on when the prices were still low.
Plimsoul
#178 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:58:56 PM
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[quote=murchr]



http://kenyanwallstreet....illion-via-rights-issue[/quote]

Took so long to get here, but finally.

Wow. 28.8 bn is massive!!! There are only 12 companies in the NSE with a market cap at that level or more.

Good luck to them. That 30% will probably be massively undersubscribed. KQ2
hisah
#179 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:18:14 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Halleluhya everything has come out just as I had predicted.
Offer price of 2:1 and price of sh.6.55

In these market conditions, this rights issue will definitely be undersubscribed.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Ericsson
#180 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:32:36 PM
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@hisah;
It will be oversubcribed or meet the targets.
Don't forget there are big institutional shareholders like NSSF who will get a good entry point.
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