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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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@murchr What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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murchr wrote:NSE20 might hit 4000 next week 4054 was the high this month on Apr 7 while the open was 3982 for the month. Nothing going on and it's almost month end. Flat tyre. I need to see vol spike and a retest of 4400 before I can get excited that the base is forming.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,182 Location: nairobi
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murchr wrote:NSE20 might hit 4000 next week even the israelites didn't stay hopeless forever any optimism is welcome "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Ericsson wrote:@murchr
What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Am looking at the trend. Today the mkt closed at 3,968.75, if the same level of activity will be seen on Equity, Safcom, KCB, the 4000 mark will be met . As we approach Safcom FY16 we should see some excitement "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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koscielny wrote:lochaes wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:instinct wrote:I note that the following situation prevails at the moment
1. Tbill rates are back to single digit levels (9%) for the last 2 weeks and there is nothing to suggest they are going back up soon.
2. The two banks that were offering high fixed deposit rates have collapsed and investors are bound to be scared of similar banks
3. The shilling has been stable since the beginning of the year
4. Stock prices are at their lowest in recent times
Do these factors suggest that we may see a flight of domestic capital towards the stock market within the next 2-4weeks?
many thought after results releasing season ends the market with start a second tanking but many stocks have since recovered from their all time lows,this is when i ignore every prophet and act as myself The market will tank. It is a matter of time before we see another deeper leg south. Prophet of doom  Hauchoki?? Been reading through different threads and exactly the same thought crossed my mind! It would be interesting to know which counter(s) @Spikes holds  Spikes and Realtreaty are the Yang and Ying of the blue section. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Am looking at the trend. Today the mkt closed at 3,968.75, if the same level of activity will be seen on Equity, Safcom, KCB, the 4000 mark will be met . As we approach Safcom FY16 we should see some excitement I am expecting a flat dividend on Safaricom. Immediately after news hitting the headlines sending panic shockwaves to investors across the world, this stock will come down crashing to establish new trading level. Most of the profit will be retained for expansion and upgrade.The NSE20 will begin shedding substantial points. I am projecting more than 500 points cut before year end. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Spikes wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Am looking at the trend. Today the mkt closed at 3,968.75, if the same level of activity will be seen on Equity, Safcom, KCB, the 4000 mark will be met . As we approach Safcom FY16 we should see some excitement I am expecting a flat dividend on Safaricom. Immediately after news hitting the headlines sending panic shockwaves to investors across the world, this stock will come down crashing to establish new trading level. Most of the profit will be retained for expansion and upgrade.The NSE20 will begin shedding substantial points. I am projecting more than 500 points cut before year end. Spikes for heaven's sake can you one day say something positive
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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enyands wrote:Spikes wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Am looking at the trend. Today the mkt closed at 3,968.75, if the same level of activity will be seen on Equity, Safcom, KCB, the 4000 mark will be met . As we approach Safcom FY16 we should see some excitement I am expecting a flat dividend on Safaricom. Immediately after news hitting the headlines sending panic shockwaves to investors across the world, this stock will come down crashing to establish new trading level. Most of the profit will be retained for expansion and upgrade.The NSE20 will begin shedding substantial points. I am projecting more than 500 points cut before year end. Spikes for heaven's sake can you one day say something positive For every prophecy there is a cost. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,182 Location: nairobi
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enyands wrote:Spikes wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Am looking at the trend. Today the mkt closed at 3,968.75, if the same level of activity will be seen on Equity, Safcom, KCB, the 4000 mark will be met . As we approach Safcom FY16 we should see some excitement I am expecting a flat dividend on Safaricom. Immediately after news hitting the headlines sending panic shockwaves to investors across the world, this stock will come down crashing to establish new trading level. Most of the profit will be retained for expansion and upgrade.The NSE20 will begin shedding substantial points. I am projecting more than 500 points cut before year end. Spikes for heaven's sake can you one day say something positive i actually stopped taking him serious "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/15/2013 Posts: 301
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mlennyma wrote:enyands wrote:Spikes wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Am looking at the trend. Today the mkt closed at 3,968.75, if the same level of activity will be seen on Equity, Safcom, KCB, the 4000 mark will be met . As we approach Safcom FY16 we should see some excitement I am expecting a flat dividend on Safaricom. Immediately after news hitting the headlines sending panic shockwaves to investors across the world, this stock will come down crashing to establish new trading level. Most of the profit will be retained for expansion and upgrade.The NSE20 will begin shedding substantial points. I am projecting more than 500 points cut before year end. Spikes for heaven's sake can you one day say something positive i actually stopped taking him serious I know his always so negative. Pray that you never get such a negative person as an employee..he/she would work at poisoning your staff...and I am talking from experience...headache!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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mulla wrote:mlennyma wrote:enyands wrote:Spikes wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Am looking at the trend. Today the mkt closed at 3,968.75, if the same level of activity will be seen on Equity, Safcom, KCB, the 4000 mark will be met . As we approach Safcom FY16 we should see some excitement I am expecting a flat dividend on Safaricom. Immediately after news hitting the headlines sending panic shockwaves to investors across the world, this stock will come down crashing to establish new trading level. Most of the profit will be retained for expansion and upgrade.The NSE20 will begin shedding substantial points. I am projecting more than 500 points cut before year end. Spikes for heaven's sake can you one day say something positive i actually stopped taking him serious I know his always so negative. Pray that you never get such a negative person as an employee..he/she would work at poisoning your staff...and I am talking from experience...headache!!! I am not negative. I am brave enough to tell stories never mentioned by stockbrokers! John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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mulla wrote:mlennyma wrote:enyands wrote:Spikes wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Am looking at the trend. Today the mkt closed at 3,968.75, if the same level of activity will be seen on Equity, Safcom, KCB, the 4000 mark will be met . As we approach Safcom FY16 we should see some excitement I am expecting a flat dividend on Safaricom. Immediately after news hitting the headlines sending panic shockwaves to investors across the world, this stock will come down crashing to establish new trading level. Most of the profit will be retained for expansion and upgrade.The NSE20 will begin shedding substantial points. I am projecting more than 500 points cut before year end. Spikes for heaven's sake can you one day say something positive i actually stopped taking him serious I know his always so negative. Pray that you never get such a negative person as an employee..he/she would work at poisoning your staff...and I am talking from experience...headache!!! Note words in blue. Actually spike was very optimistic even more than @Reatreaty. It is after he got burnt to recognition in all his Holdings that his heart changed and he became bitter. I don't take his words kama ile gazeti walisema ya nyama, don't even digest his words because you won't get meaning. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Boris Boyka wrote:mulla wrote:mlennyma wrote:enyands wrote:Spikes wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
What good news is expected to drive NSE20 to that level Am looking at the trend. Today the mkt closed at 3,968.75, if the same level of activity will be seen on Equity, Safcom, KCB, the 4000 mark will be met . As we approach Safcom FY16 we should see some excitement I am expecting a flat dividend on Safaricom. Immediately after news hitting the headlines sending panic shockwaves to investors across the world, this stock will come down crashing to establish new trading level. Most of the profit will be retained for expansion and upgrade.The NSE20 will begin shedding substantial points. I am projecting more than 500 points cut before year end. Spikes for heaven's sake can you one day say something positive i actually stopped taking him serious I know his always so negative. Pray that you never get such a negative person as an employee..he/she would work at poisoning your staff...and I am talking from experience...headache!!! Note words in blue. Actually spike was very optimistic even more than @Reatreaty. It is after he got burnt to recognition in all his Holdings that his heart changed and he became bitter. I don't take his words kama ile gazeti walisema ya nyama, don't even digest his words because you won't get meaning. You talking of mumias shares that burnt him ama 😆
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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murchr wrote:NSE20 might hit 4000 next week BAT, KEGN, BRIT and ARM pulled the NSE20 to close at 4010.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,182 Location: nairobi
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hisah wrote:murchr wrote:NSE20 might hit 4000 next week BAT, KEGN, BRIT and ARM pulled the NSE20 to close at 4010. so ?what's next "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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mlennyma wrote:hisah wrote:murchr wrote:NSE20 might hit 4000 next week BAT, KEGN, BRIT and ARM pulled the NSE20 to close at 4010. so ?what's next Nothing special. I was just pointing it out to @murchr.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hisah wrote:mlennyma wrote:hisah wrote:murchr wrote:NSE20 might hit 4000 next week BAT, KEGN, BRIT and ARM pulled the NSE20 to close at 4010. so ?what's next Nothing special. I was just pointing it out to @murchr. Its my psychological mark of optimism. I will be collecting gems. And what's with Kengen? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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murchr wrote:hisah wrote:mlennyma wrote:hisah wrote:murchr wrote:NSE20 might hit 4000 next week BAT, KEGN, BRIT and ARM pulled the NSE20 to close at 4010. so ?what's next Nothing special. I was just pointing it out to @murchr. Its my psychological mark of optimism. I will be collecting gems. And what's with Kengen? It's trying to base out. Heavy volume came in Jan and Feb at around 5.50 - 6.50 level and the reversal started. If it were not for the huge rights issue overhang I'd have started accumulating. On TA it's now approaching tough resistance zone between 9 - 10 level. This level will likely reject the bulls.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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@VituVingiSana SEACOM has its owners so safaricom has no unused capacity.They have to buy capacity in them. As for TEAMS unless they buy more stake to make them majority shareholders with more than 50% of the capacity. These can be funded with their retained earnings. As for the improvement in call quality and data speeds these they can be improved using their Capital expenditure plans for the financial year. Regional partnesrhips the best way to go is to either form strong partnesrhips with the providers there or acquire stakes and have subsidiaries like MTN and Airtel have done so that you have one seamless network.But with acquiring stakes they have been locked out of Tanzania and Uganda as Vodafone has subsidiaries there so maybe an interconnect would do. @murchr As for KENGEN maybe there is an upcoming major announcement that will excite investors in a few days to come. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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@Ericson, I dont think spending so much money in another underground infrastructure is worth it, my thinking is they should invest in more connected things like @Masukumas AfyaBand. The internet of things will change how we interact and do business "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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