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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2007 Posts: 2,037 Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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Muganda and wondeful people, Have they commenced opening of CDS account in Uganda ? Has Electronic trading commenced.? Please let me know, as I have a keen interest on the small Uganda bourse to complement my NSE investment. Good enough a lot of Nse stocks(EABL, KCB, EQUITY, JUBILEE,KQ) are cross listed there plus the promising DFCU and Stanbic Uganda. When I was in Kampala in Dec 09, I visited D&B Uganda and Crane Stockbrokers located in Kampala road Uganda, they all said opening of CDS account has not commenced until Q1 2010. Young Nigeria The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2008 Posts: 77
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Registration of CDS accounts is ongoing. This includes registration of biometric details (fingerprinting). Im not sure how this is being done for people not in Uganda, though.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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I was told ugandans dont posses identification cards, so i wanna know if they are using birth certificates in this exercise. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2007 Posts: 2,037 Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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The good news is that they have started the process . Foreigners like me that want to open a CDS account overseas must be physically present to go through the process. I have already been told that and that is the normal process in African countries. African emergng stock exchanges cannot do without foreign retail and institutional investors. I have paid that price in Kenya some years back to open a CDS account and hope to do same in the nearest future in emerging Uganda. What I still need to find out is whether they have commenced electronic trading rather than the traditional paper certificate ? The reason being that after opening a CDS account, I would like to invest immediately ie killing two birds with one stone as luckily for me from my Kenya experience I know which counters to invest in. Thanks for the info. Best Regards Young, Nigeria The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2008 Posts: 77
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Sober wrote:I was told ugandans dont posses identification cards, so i wanna know if they are using birth certificates in this exercise. there are many other means of identifying a person that Uganda uses, such as driving permits, passports, or a letter from your Local Council. But, the national ID process is eventually starting, albeit with alot of resistance http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/715642
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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@Young!
The process of immobilizing share certificates is taking a little longer than expected.
I agree with you there could be a few gains to be made on some securities. I still believe Stanbic Ug is still underpriced at the current UGx 200 given the growth for the Bank. I should price it at a reasonable pe of 16. I see trading at not less 290 immediately or just before 1st half.
What else are you seeing?
Any comments on the Kenyan Kenya RE, ARM, EABL, KPLC, KCB and KCB at current prices?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2007 Posts: 2,037 Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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@Pkoli, My interst in USE is to have exposure to Ugandan home bred companies bearing in mind most of my favourite highly capitaslized companies are made in Kenya companies (KQ,EABL,JHL,KCB,EB). Since my investment objective is dividend yield, I have penciolled down companies that have issued dividends in the past 3 years even though they may not be as good as the big Kenya companies. My line up of Uganda Counters in order of preference are on the basis of indication of economic boom in Uganda :- Stanbic Uganda, DFCU (Dev Finance Co Ltd), Bank Of Baroda New Vision Limited. To complerment them is the following kenya big guys bearing in mind that all Kenya listed companies are big champions interms of market cap in Uganda and Tanzania :- EABL (Known for interim and final dividend foreigners beloved counter). JHL (Jubilee Holdings,a good exposure since it does not meet my criteria in NSE). I am, adverse to airline counters as it can make or break you, I have enough of KCB,EB in NSE. I hope this answers your question ? The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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@Young:
Thanks, I totally concur with you. I see a likelihood of those homegrown companies doing well. Banks, though have to be smart since the competition is gonna be huge with Kenyan banks having opened shop. I will stick with Stanbic at this point. going forward I anticipate small banks like DFCU merging with bigger banks.
The reason I have never bought New Vision is the paper does not look exciting at all: just like Kenya Times. I will still have to study it.
Watch out for the Tanzanian companies once the restrictions on foreign investors are lifted. they seem cheap.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2007 Posts: 2,037 Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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@Pkoli, Do not think bigger and more experienced KCB UG or EB UG will outperform the indegenous Ugandan banks in the near term. Logically you are right but the reality is that govt policies are always skewed towards favouring the local bank The locals and govt agencies where the bulk of funds flow through always trust and prefer the home grown banks. Be aware there are also other foreign banks in Uganda,like Bank of Africsa (From West Africa), united bank for africa (from Nigeria), Ecobank, Barclays etc. We are yet to witness the real growth phase of Uganda banks something similar to what happened in KCB Kenya between 1998 to 2007. Even in Kenya over time ROI of local KCB has consistently outperformed Barclays or Stanchart both listed in Nairobi bourse. In Ghana GCB (Ghana Commercial Bank) returns better than Stanchart. In Nigeria here First Bank of Nigeria performs better than Stan Chart . I wish you all the best in Tanzania, as far as East Africa is concerned I am ok with Kenya / Uganda, but looking at Tanzania or upcoming Rwanda is a worthwhile venture for you because I believe you reside in Kenya or East Africa. I rather plan to focus more in my neighbouring Ghana stock exchange. I have already been active on Ghana based well balanced equity fund products EPACK, MFUND and BFUND of databank group. www.databankgroup.com. I will like to buy and position directly also on their local bourse as they have also started to open CDS accounts to prospective investors. The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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@ Young.
Thanks for your thoughts. I have always thought the Ugandan market has similar socio-economic conditions like Kenya. Therefore KCB and EB in the Ugandan market operate more like the indigeneous banks, unlike the Stanchart and other foreign based banks, where most of the boardroom decisions are made in South Africa, London etc. I agree it is not easy to penetrate a totally new teritory in the banking field, esepcially if one has to start with brand new branches.
For the case of KCB and EB, I see a case where there is a lot of cross border business going on between citizens of the two countries and therefore acceptance is much easier.
I believe Stanbic Ug could behave like the Kenyan KCB in unlocking its true value. Ug is puting a lot of efforts in infrastructure developing and with oil discovery, things might be much better.
At what p/e ratios are the Ghanian banks trading at? Industries? how does one trade their? same case like openning CDSC? what is the starting point?
Best regards,
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2007 Posts: 2,037 Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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@Mzee Pkoli To trade in Ghana Stock Exchange these are the PAINS You need to be physically present to fill forms to open a CDSC account with a strockbroker. At the moment share certificate are not yet fully immobilized but process will be completed in Sept. GAINS 1.4 Ghc equals 1 US dollars so you have stronger currency advantage over KSh and you diversify your inv accross economies. Ghana economy is very promosing.Ghana is a new petroleum producer from Jan 2011 just like Uganda. BANK PE Average is 20. But GCB is 17 and standard charti 17. A smaller CAL bank is 6 !!!Yhere is also GGBL (Guiness Ghana Breweries) and HFC (Housing Finance with PEs of 17 and 20 respectively. For more info vist www.gse.com.ghwww.databankgroup.com (biggest stockbroking firm) DIVIDENDS If you travel there you can open Amal Bank Non Resident Account for your e=dividend (EFT in kenya) www.amalbank.com.gh (check products and services) NOTE:- Ignore Cal stockbrokers online account hype for non residents as it is not working well. The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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@Young:
Many thanks for your information. It is quite a task opening an account in African countries for trading. I will use that as an opportunity to visit Ghana.
The prices seem a little higher than the Kenyan banks, but there might be higher growth prospects.
How is the brewery company in terms of its growth prospects? Is it comparative to EABL say in 2000?
Any good brokers one should look at? In the class of Kestrel or African Alliance?
Have you ever ventured in the Zambian market? It seems a little easier to open a CDSC account than in our region and West Africa. I haven't opened one yet, but inquired through mail and was surprised, it is much easier.
Best regards,
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