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Britam's Asset Manager shows FY after tax up 26%
enyands
#21 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 4:11:44 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


I do not trust this company since that Rawat drama. It might no be transcentury bad, but there's something I just don't trust them. With NSE nose diving last year, so will their profits, maybe even loss like it FY 2011 bear



Plus revising the results.
Spikes
#22 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 4:18:06 PM
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Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.


Tonite I'll get on these formulas including the industry average before I make a ruling. But for now stop balkanization and lets all maintain sobriety. I am on assignment folks.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Spikes
#23 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:46:42 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.


Tonite I'll get on these formulas including the industry average before I make a ruling. But for now stop balkanization and lets all maintain sobriety. I am on assignment folks.




http://www.moneycrashers...o-definition-explained/


Wazuans read for yourselves so that you can get indepth knowledge on how PE ratio is calculated. Do not rely on amateur presentations on this thread. I emphasis again read and read. Do not be misled by individuals seeking low entry through unjustified calculations without quoting the source of the metrics.


John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Aguytrying
#24 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 10:31:57 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.


Tonite I'll get on these formulas including the industry average before I make a ruling. But for now stop balkanization and lets all maintain sobriety. I am on assignment folks.




http://www.moneycrashers...o-definition-explained/


Wazuans read for yourselves so that you can get indepth knowledge on how PE ratio is calculated. Do not rely on amateur presentations on this thread. I emphasis again read and read. Do not be misled by individuals seeking low entry through unjustified calculations without quoting the source of the metrics.




It's going to 5 bob whether u like it or not, I'll be waiting there to jump in. Infact sell to buy lower
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Spikes
#25 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 10:40:45 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.


Tonite I'll get on these formulas including the industry average before I make a ruling. But for now stop balkanization and lets all maintain sobriety. I am on assignment folks.




http://www.moneycrashers...o-definition-explained/


Wazuans read for yourselves so that you can get indepth knowledge on how PE ratio is calculated. Do not rely on amateur presentations on this thread. I emphasis again read and read. Do not be misled by individuals seeking low entry through unjustified calculations without quoting the source of the metrics.




It's going to 5 bob whether u like it or not, I'll be waiting there to jump in. Infact sell to buy lower


Nikiona kimeumana nitaruka nje!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Boris Boyka
#26 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 10:41:09 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.


Tonite I'll get on these formulas including the industry average before I make a ruling. But for now stop balkanization and lets all maintain sobriety. I am on assignment folks.




http://www.moneycrashers...o-definition-explained/


Wazuans read for yourselves so that you can get indepth knowledge on how PE ratio is calculated. Do not rely on amateur presentations on this thread. I emphasis again read and read. Do not be misled by individuals seeking low entry through unjustified calculations without quoting the source of the metrics.




It's going to 5 bob whether u like it or not, I'll be waiting there to jump in. Infact sell to buy lower

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause that's the first time in a while am seeing that.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Spikes
#27 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:11:18 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.


Tonite I'll get on these formulas including the industry average before I make a ruling. But for now stop balkanization and lets all maintain sobriety. I am on assignment folks.




http://www.moneycrashers...o-definition-explained/


Wazuans read for yourselves so that you can get indepth knowledge on how PE ratio is calculated. Do not rely on amateur presentations on this thread. I emphasis again read and read. Do not be misled by individuals seeking low entry through unjustified calculations without quoting the source of the metrics.




It's going to 5 bob whether u like it or not, I'll be waiting there to jump in. Infact sell to buy lower

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause that's the first time in a while am seeing that.



Golden rule: No ululating analysis is smarter than the market itself. Market machinery under sufficient conditions is uninterrupted by red herring opinions.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
VituVingiSana
#28 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 12:27:47 AM
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Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.

Until the EPS is released, we [except @Obiero] do not know what it is. Why don't you give us your mathematics?

We can compare @hisah vs @spikes on Britam.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Gatheuzi
#29 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:23:18 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.

Until the EPS is released, we [except @Obiero] do not know what it is. Why don't you give us your mathematics?

We can compare @hisah vs @spikes on Britam.

And while at it @spikes, remember to keep pace with Britam's revisions of EPS.
Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
Spikes
#30 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:34:51 AM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.

Until the EPS is released, we [except @Obiero] do not know what it is. Why don't you give us your mathematics?

We can compare @hisah vs @spikes on Britam.

And while at it @spikes, remember to keep pace with Britam's revisions of EPS.



That was then.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
guru267
#31 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:41:35 AM
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Anywhere James Mwangi is substantially involved I simply have no trust whatsoever! Liar Liar Liar Liar
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Deuteronomy 4:16
Spikes
#32 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:42:38 AM
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Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.


Tonite I'll get on these formulas including the industry average before I make a ruling. But for now stop balkanization and lets all maintain sobriety. I am on assignment folks.




http://www.moneycrashers...o-definition-explained/


Wazuans read for yourselves so that you can get indepth knowledge on how PE ratio is calculated. Do not rely on amateur presentations on this thread. I emphasis again read and read. Do not be misled by individuals seeking low entry through unjustified calculations without quoting the source of the metrics.





Wazuans do not be duped by unscrupulous thread analysts. Read for yourself. These are hawkish speculators praying for downfalls.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Spikes
#33 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:53:21 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Anywhere James Mwangi is substantially involved I simply have no trust whatsoever! Liar Liar Liar Liar


James Mwangi has big name alongside his CV. Look at Wings to Fly and entrepreneurship spirit at Equity bank . His global award on his efforts of giving back to society.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
littledove
#34 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:41:54 AM
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Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.


Tonite I'll get on these formulas including the industry average before I make a ruling. But for now stop balkanization and lets all maintain sobriety. I am on assignment folks.




http://www.moneycrashers...o-definition-explained/


Wazuans read for yourselves so that you can get indepth knowledge on how PE ratio is calculated. Do not rely on amateur presentations on this thread. I emphasis again read and read. Do not be misled by individuals seeking low entry through unjustified calculations without quoting the source of the metrics.





Wazuans do not be duped by unscrupulous thread analysts. Read for yourself. These are hawkish speculators praying for downfalls.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly for sure learning is a process
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#35 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:54:29 AM
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Spikes wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Anywhere James Mwangi is substantially involved I simply have no trust whatsoever! Liar Liar Liar Liar


James Mwangi has big name alongside his CV. Look at Wings to Fly and entrepreneurship spirit at Equity bank . His global award on his efforts of giving back to society.

Britam marriage is in shambles. The progeny of Brit is contemplating a move since the sole bread winner, Rawaat, has been enstranged. Those kids in the know are finding it difficult going without a full plate or adjusting its size. A more palatable consideration is seeking refuge from a foster family since their hey days are blink and the future is uncertain. The neighbours are uncertain of the consequences of the tsunami like event and are yet to make full adjustments to the brewing crisis.
@mwm reporting for Brits dependants. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Aguytrying
#36 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:11:33 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HY EPS was down 77% from 1.45 to 0.32. Assuming H2 finishes as H1 that means EPS will be 0.64 (0.32x2). Current insurance sector PER is 8.6. But out of generosity let's give BRIT a PER of 10.

Share price = EPS x PER = 0.64 x 10 = KES 6.40.

Avoid the unnecessary noise and stay focused otherwise the market magicians will skin you alive!


Use real PER on your calculation based on Britam fundamentals. You have randomly picked a less value in a pure attempt to balkanize the fair value of this stock.


Tonite I'll get on these formulas including the industry average before I make a ruling. But for now stop balkanization and lets all maintain sobriety. I am on assignment folks.




http://www.moneycrashers...o-definition-explained/


Wazuans read for yourselves so that you can get indepth knowledge on how PE ratio is calculated. Do not rely on amateur presentations on this thread. I emphasis again read and read. Do not be misled by individuals seeking low entry through unjustified calculations without quoting the source of the metrics.




It's going to 5 bob whether u like it or not, I'll be waiting there to jump in. Infact sell to buy lower

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause that's the first time in a while am seeing that.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly It has a lot of irony. remember he's always telling me to sell kk we buy at 8.00 together.. he he.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
researchfirst
#37 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:04:46 PM
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Mauritius has agreed to sell a near 25 percent stake in Kenyan insurer British-American Investments Co (Britam), after seizing it from a disgraced tycoon, to the existing shareholders ...
http://uk.reuters.com/ar...ervicesAndRealEstateNews
Spikes
#38 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:18:40 PM
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[quote=researchfirst]Mauritius has agreed to sell a near 25 percent stake in Kenyan insurer British-American Investments Co (Britam), after seizing it from a disgraced tycoon, to the existing shareholders ...
http://uk.reuters.com/ar...rvicesAndRealEstateNews[/quote]

At least the controversial fire is extinguished now all eyes focused on the price the Mauritian government sold Kenyan big boys. Anxiety is high as Wanjiko wants to know if there was premium or discount. But I believe a premium would be the order of the day.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Boris Boyka
#39 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:27:31 PM
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I like the title of this thread
'Britam's Asset Manager SHOWS FY after tax up 26%'
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
researchfirst
#40 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:45:39 PM
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@Spikes. Agreed it is good that the Rawat issue is resolved, but wish we had more details. As you say, price of the stake means a great deal, as does who exactly the buyers were and what they plan to do with their now enormous additional position. Then, of course, there are the FY results.

Institutions are going to keep sitting on the sidelines -- and speculators will keep posting meaningless comments here trying to push things one way or the other on the minimal volume that is trading -- until more clarity is in place.

So, BRIT, give us the results and release a statement on the deal! We're in Q2 in four hours.
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