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Rank: Member Joined: 5/28/2014 Posts: 149 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:@kiash; They are having biggest dreams.Real estate dream ended when the grand coalition mandate came into power. This jubilee clowns have messed up the economy from where the Kibaki era left it by their grand corruption and theft;
Really, Ericsson? Is this a real response to the question about how companies will fare in real estate? Or is it a joke? Or did you post it on this thread by mistake? ---> Going to check what comments Ericsson generally makes... When you live for others' opinions, you are dead.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Closed right at the 10 handle today. Hopelessness will check in as the price slips below 10. The FY results should boost the pessimism just like PAFR. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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hisah wrote:Closed right at the 10 handle today. Hopelessness will check in as the price slips below 10. The FY results should boost the pessimism just like PAFR. @hisah I pity you this vehicle will leave you hoping for a further drop. There will be a massive drop in profit compared to last financial year but not a loss report. On the same magnitude a large report of unrealised loss will eat Britam's revenues too. Expect a rally immediately after performance announcement. Already bad news is factored in the current price. Don't expect a dip more than the bloodbath today! During the rally last fatigue will be at 16.50 kes per share. It will be a rapid motion; upward stampede. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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Deeply oversold. Dead cat bounce in the offing. Next support levels at 8 and this is a tough one “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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Riding the lower BB bands.ksh 10 support is being broken (This was a short one unlike the ksh 8 which was long) But i hold the view that the counter is deeply oversold to warrant a bounce. “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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My candy has fallen down , i still gonna pick it and eat it!!!!!! . Most likey the announced loss will be 30-45%.They may not pay any dividend and if any 10-20cents. I still will buy it knowing one day they will move back strongly after issues with Bramer and BAI Mauritius are resolved with their 23% capacity. The wording will be strong tomorrow when they release their FY15 figures. The opening of Britam Tower may be pushed to April 2017. Such bad news are announced at the evening to reduce headache during the day.!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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@Realtreaty. Your optimism seems to have died down. Never underestimate the NSE deep sea sharks. I don't like volatile shares, this is proving to be one. It touched 4.00 in 2011/2012. It went up to 40 that's a 10 fold rise! Speculators heaven. Just don't be on the golden handcuffs purge The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Hello Joined: 2/10/2015 Posts: 8 Location: Nairobi
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Oh my... this is enough beating.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Golden_Arrow wrote:Oh my... this is enough beating. Not yet Uhuru.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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#432 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:36:50 PMRealtreaty wrote: Profit warning kitu gani? As a political investor I would term the profit warning as a score at Mauritian govt goal. They failed to sell or appoint a person or company to take over from D/Rawats. Now its time the Kenyan side take stock at even more cheaper rate. The Best Mauritian govt would do is to forego the Bramer case attached to monies in Britam as an investment by D/Rawat until they probe him and determine where he got his health. Politics is a two sided spear (Asseghai). Dividends flat or 20cts. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Pesa Nane wrote:#432 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:36:50 PMRealtreaty wrote: Profit warning kitu gani? As a political investor I would term the profit warning as a score at Mauritian govt goal. They failed to sell or appoint a person or company to take over from D/Rawats. Now its time the Kenyan side take stock at even more cheaper rate. The Best Mauritian govt would do is to forego the Bramer case attached to monies in Britam as an investment by D/Rawat until they probe him and determine where he got his health. Politics is a two sided spear (Asseghai). Dividends flat or 20cts. I can see internet never forgets!!!!!! Well documented. Safely archived. This stock is founded on strong fundamentals. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Spikes wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:#432 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:36:50 PMRealtreaty wrote: Profit warning kitu gani? As a political investor I would term the profit warning as a score at Mauritian govt goal. They failed to sell or appoint a person or company to take over from D/Rawats. Now its time the Kenyan side take stock at even more cheaper rate. The Best Mauritian govt would do is to forego the Bramer case attached to monies in Britam as an investment by D/Rawat until they probe him and determine where he got his health. Politics is a two sided spear (Asseghai). Dividends flat or 20cts. I can see internet never forgets!!!!!! Well documented. Safely archived.
This stock is founded on strong fundamentals.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Dead cat bounce. Sub 10 is on the way. Just read the volume spread. Weak buy interest since Oct 2014. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2015 Posts: 154 Location: Nairobi
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I truly don't understand the negative sentiment toward BRIT. From a technical perspective the stock is oversold (e.g. Relative Strength Index is 11.45) and from a fundamentals perspective, it appears deeply undervalued.
Going beyond the headlines, the company's core business looked good at the half-year and future prospects (in Kenya and regionally) look promising. They are investing much more in innovation than the rest of the sector, made the right acquisitions, and are growing in the business areas and geographies that they should be. I am also bullish on the sector as a whole in East Africa.
Sure, the uncertainty surrounding Rawat's stake is still there and the profit warning is still hanging over things (at least until we get numbers on Thursday), but these negatives aren't enough to justify the huge hit the stock has taken. What am I missing?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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@researchfirst Huge exposure to quoted equities I.e HFCK and Equity Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2015 Posts: 154 Location: Nairobi
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@ericsson. Good point and agree this is a problem for the 2015 figures but, from a forward-looking perspective, tie up with the two must be good strategically, no? Also they said they are holding on exposure to listed stuff and diluting by increasing real estate, etc. (like Centum did, just later than they should have). Get what you're saying, but still seems like price is artificially low. Cyntonn tweeted yesterday that foreign money flowed out ahead of FY announcement, maybe that's all it was (with earlier drops attributable to Ponzi worries, HY crap, etc.). Long term, stock still seems solid to me. I just don't know if I have the stomach for the near term volatility. (Know that's the wrong thing to say from a value perspective, but I'm only human ... and, basically, broke!)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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researchfirst wrote:@ericsson. Good point and agree this is a problem for the 2015 figures but, from a forward-looking perspective, tie up with the two must be good strategically, no? Also they said they are holding on exposure to listed stuff and diluting by increasing real estate, etc. (like Centum did, just later than they should have). Get what you're saying, but still seems like price is artificially low. Cyntonn tweeted yesterday that foreign money flowed out ahead of FY announcement, maybe that's all it was (with earlier drops attributable to Ponzi worries, HY crap, etc.). Long term, stock still seems solid to me. I just don't know if I have the stomach for the near term volatility. (Know that's the wrong thing to say from a value perspective, but I'm only human ... and, basically, broke!) dark cloud will pass after next year august .just hang on. you are broke physically but reach inside.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2015 Posts: 154 Location: Nairobi
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@enyands. Asante sana!
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