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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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The first day after results Kk traded over 7.3 m shares with very huge volumes trading at 11.50,this shows the results met and surpassed investors expectations "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations I'm not selling unless something irreversible happens to the company or management quality The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mlennyma wrote:The first day after results Kk traded over 7.3 m shares with very huge volumes trading at 11.50,this shows the results met and surpassed investors expectations It is unreal to see kk printing 11.xy. U can think your looking at britam or barclays The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/28/2014 Posts: 41
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Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! Spikes how can you be so optimistic and pessimistic at the same time? If I may ask, what's your basis for coming up with those figures? Good judgement is often the result of experience. Experience is often the result of bad judgement.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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1masha wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! Spikes how can you be so optimistic and pessimistic at the same time? If I may ask, what's your basis for coming up with those figures? if you want to one time own a property or something big from the proceeds of the nse,avoid selling stocks which have no bad issues anytime you see a 3bob gain unless you have financial difficulties or you want to invest elsewhere ,i consider this as being too hungry "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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1masha wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! Spikes how can you be so optimistic and pessimistic at the same time? If I may ask, what's your basis for coming up with those figures? @ obiero once told me that spikes = QW and you will never understand him/her. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. How did the trading of kk go for you? What price did u buy sell, buy. During the Pendulum. Are u still holding the shares? The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. Your explaining agrees with me but you insist you don't! Saying YES and NO at the same time. Watermelon mentality: outside green surprisingly inside red! John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. Your explaining agrees with me but you insist you don't! Saying YES and NO at the same time. Watermelon mentality: outside green surprisingly inside red! Wazua itakuWIPER. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Aguytrying wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. How did the trading of kk go for you? What price did u buy sell, buy. During the Pendulum. Are u still holding the shares? By The last FY I had KK @ an average of 8.90 including commission. I sold All at 10.30. I re entered and my average is 8.25. I said it here openly the "2 years recovery period plus Simon Makonde theory' but I said I'll re enter @8.2 and below as there were all signs of it getting lower. Right now it may not go that low in near future so trading now is more tricky. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Spikes wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. Your explaining agrees with me but you insist you don't! Saying YES and NO at the same time. Watermelon mentality: outside green surprisingly inside red! Wazua itakuWIPER. Of course you can't understand just like you can't be understood here by many. Wazua blue section is not a chat site to to give you popularity. A statement both mine and yours contain various points or perspectives and they're not to be adopted in entirety unless they all add up to the suppoters' thinking. When you come of Age you'll understand these things.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Boris Boyka wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. How did the trading of kk go for you? What price did u buy sell, buy. During the Pendulum. Are u still holding the shares? By The last FY I had KK @ an average of 8.90 including commission. I sold All at 10.30. I re entered and my average is 8.25. I said it here openly the "2 years recovery period plus Simon Makonde theory' but I said I'll re enter @8.2 and below as there were all signs of it getting lower. Right now it may not go that low in near future so trading now is more tricky. You've done well for yourself, despite taking the risk of selling then waiting for it to go lower. When it reached 10 the second time how come you didn't sell, is the pendulum over or has it changed? This is where it becomes tricky to speculate, now the share is not predictable any more. In my wildest dreams I wouldn't have thought it will go above 11.00. I'm sure we've left behind many speculators from 10.00 going upwards. It's tricky for them now, do I sell? Is it going higher. It's mostly the long termers who will reap the full benefits in the end. I hope ull be one of the them. By the way my buying is over now unless it goes back below 9.00. So no longer the buyer but the holder The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. I keep it simple. I go the Warren Buffett way. I like to add to my position when it is cheap but hold it when it is fairly priced [& don't have an equivalent quality/potential option]. I did the 'swing trading' with Access. I thought I was the smartest guy. I would buy at 7-ish & sell at 8-ish. Then one day I sold most of them at 8-ish waiting for 7-ish. I was feeling smug at how clever I was. The price went up & up & while I watched... a takeover announced at 14/-. End of story for me. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Boris Boyka wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. How did the trading of kk go for you? What price did u buy sell, buy. During the Pendulum. Are u still holding the shares? By The last FY I had KK @ an average of 8.90 including commission. I sold All at 10.30. I re entered and my average is 8.25. I said it here openly the "2 years recovery period plus Simon Makonde theory' but I said I'll re enter @8.2 and below as there were all signs of it getting lower. Right now it may not go that low in near future so trading now is more tricky. It will still go down in this bear the share is currently expensive compared to peers "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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murchr wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. How did the trading of kk go for you? What price did u buy sell, buy. During the Pendulum. Are u still holding the shares? By The last FY I had KK @ an average of 8.90 including commission. I sold All at 10.30. I re entered and my average is 8.25. I said it here openly the "2 years recovery period plus Simon Makonde theory' but I said I'll re enter @8.2 and below as there were all signs of it getting lower. Right now it may not go that low in near future so trading now is more tricky. It will still go down in this bear the share is currently expensive compared to peers its a normal phenomena shares go up and down "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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VituVingiSana wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Spikes wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Been in this since 8/= and I'm not selling unless I see a crazy rally.The turnaround is complete and now it's all profits for the coming years. capital gains aside for now, before I finish the final yr dividend,an interim will have been declared to keep me eating all year round,I saw something like 11.60 anything above 14 is very tempting so help me God to overcome temptations When it hits 14 offload and relax. You will board @8 together with me! i consider the exit commission /re-entry commission, monitoring and waiting for it to come down,not worth it let me just eat the full dividend, pesa ya sukuma sitaki i don't mean @spikes is very right but let me give an illustration where i could have bought i KK shares in 2014 and monitor/trade and commisions @ 2.2%, keep in mind the pendulumBuy 10000 shares @8.5 = 85000, Add commission = 1785, Total = 86785 I could adopt any of these two: A. Hold the 10000 shares up to now and bag a dividend of 3500/=(10K * 0.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1: 10 thus total shares will be 11000. B. when the price gets to 10.30 i sell all of them sell 10000 @ 10.30 = 103000, Subtract commission = 2266, cash = 100734 when the pendulum swings into action and price dips to 8'ish i buy again using the above amount; ( selling for a low re entry) Buy 12300 @ 8 = 98400, Add commissions = 2164.8, Total = 100564.80 Bag a dividend of 4305/= (12.3k* o.35). Hold and hope for a bonus of 1:10 thus total shares will be 13530. Moving forward who benefits more? One has to keep in mind that there were all sings of Pendulum in KK which makes one trade in it. Just as @ murchr said on the other side. this may not apply to all stocks at all times. No one is clever enough to beat the market, no single model is the only successful one in the stocks market but a method that profits the investor in that season is the workable model in that financial period. I keep it simple. I go the Warren Buffett way. I like to add to my position when it is cheap but hold it when it is fairly priced [& don't have an equivalent quality/potential option]. I did the 'swing trading' with Access. I thought I was the smartest guy. I would buy at 7-ish & sell at 8-ish. Then one day I sold most of them at 8-ish waiting for 7-ish. I was feeling smug at how clever I was. The price went up & up & while I watched... a takeover announced at 14/-. End of story for me. @VVS your experience with Access is learning lesson to me and everybody else who wants to be watchful on tricky price swings. Sweet corporate news and other positive economic developments can trigger unstoppable impulsive upward swings just leaving you salivating as other investors keep harvesting super profits. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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