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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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10 years is too long.It should clock 50 within 5 years so long as the hyenas don't come for it. If they come run away very fast ata kama haijafika Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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enyands wrote:watesh wrote:whiteowl wrote:enyands wrote:MaichBlack wrote:enyands wrote:sparkly wrote:Othelo wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:Add on top of that WTO in Nairobi have hit a deadlock on a number of issues favouring developing countries like us.
China gave us the sh.10.5bn loan so that we don't raise any issue about unfair practices to nations like us. What do you expect when wolves are negotiating with lambs. Africans have to take by force what belongs to Africans. Stop extending begging bowls to our first/second world cousins I have always wondered why Africa cannot organise themselves and create some serious trading block and development fund!!! Exactly! Trade between Africa and the west is heavily tilted in favour of the west. The west buys raw materials (never finished goods) then sells back finished goods. African products are faced with Tariff and Non tariff barriers in the west. Intra African trade on mutually beneficial terms can fast track development. e.g. South Sudan to sell oil to Kenya, Kenyan banks to provide development capital in SS. This is practical written wise ,but on the ground just to let you know the west Will never allow this to happen.kwani where do you think they will sell their finished product if you depend on each other.should someone try that sinister move they will slap you with bans and trade embargos. Ask Gaddafi.he tried to make sure that Africa depends on herself ...they got rid of him very fast. We need people like Tom Sankara and the pan African leaders . Finally!!! Someone who understands why the west got rid of Gaddafi!!! The dream and model Gaddafi had for Africa would have totally upset the status quo. Look at the way foreign companies including oil companies were made to operate in Libya! No Parasitic agreements allowed. First question, how does this deal benefit Libya. People should read about the Gaddafi Libya! Ridiculously low taxes, free education to University level, Government pays for you University fees abroad of you want to do something not offered in Libya, working welfare system, Cheques (Yes, you actually get a cheque!!!) from oil proceeds etc. Libyans will never get that life back! Not the next two generations at least!!! The west potrayed him as evil witch yet few people understood what big heart he had for Africa. He was a threat to west especially France with the Africa satellite project.halafu wakaua yeye. Whoever praises the western machinery are brainwashed The quality of life was at par with Scandinavian countries. Even UN reports said as much.But when NATO gangs up against you, your odds of survival are minimal. Only Russia and China can fight them. The developed nations have so much spending power in their countries with most of the wealth in the world there. They literally have us by the balls. Eg travel advisories cripple the tourism sector in the snap of a finger, kenya shillings value collapses. Biggest exchange earner is remittances, well deny us visas and we fall down further Obama came and signed some anti money laundering with UK whereby anyone from majuu who wires money more than $10,000 the cbk should report to IRS.then IRS will audit your past filings to see if your money is legit .I think most of diaspora work hard and send much money home. Those guys want their money to stay in their countries.they have been keeping note of record shattering wire remittance Kenyans do. "THIS ATTRACTED THEIR ATTENTION" hence treaty Obama signed. I repeat once the western realise that there is something that threatens their survival then they will do anything to protect their interest. In a similar directive enforcing scrutiny on cash transfers, thousands of new Kenyan bank account holders have been completing tax forms by the United States Internal Revenue Service as the noose on tax evaders in Kenya’s diaspora tightens. link daily nation
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Boris Boyka wrote:guru267 wrote:HFC & Bamburi Angelica Anne wroteBamburi & Safaricom. @vvs you can see! Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Boris Boyka wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:guru267 wrote:HFC & Bamburi Angelica Anne wroteBamburi & Safaricom. @vvs you can see! STOCK VOTES (No.) - PRICESafaricom - 12 - 16.60KCB - 8 - 39.75Bamburi - 5 - 176EABL - 5 - 275Equity - 4 - 39.25KQ - 4 - 4.5Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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sparkly wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:guru267 wrote:HFC & Bamburi Angelica Anne wroteBamburi & Safaricom. @vvs you can see! STOCK VOTES (No.) - PRICESafaricom - 12 - 16.60KCB - 8 - 39.75Bamburi - 5 - 176EABL - 5 - 275Equity - 4 - 39.25KQ - 4 - 4.5 What fundamendoz supports KQ? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/17/2007 Posts: 294
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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instinct wrote:HFCK and EQTY Hapo utaumia .... both financials Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Othelo wrote:instinct wrote:HFCK and EQTY Hapo utaumia .... both financials Ericsson wrote:@VituVingiSana
And having issued a profit warning for FY2015 results things are tough for the company;
--The Dande group moved with ksh.2bn worth of business for the asset management when they formed Cytonn Investments which is doing quite well.
--Interest payments on the ksh.6bn corporate bond they issued last year.
--They now have two complete buildings in Upper hill with occupancy very low i.e Former Real insurance two buildings.When Real merged with Britam the operations were combined at Britam towers.
--BAAM has hired Kenneth kaniu to be the MD;he was formerly at STANLIB and very little is known about him in terms of track record.How he performs at BAAM is unknown.
--The old club/axis of Benson Wairegi,Jimnah Mbaru,Peter Munga and James Mwangi haven't groomed any successor to take over once Wairegi retires.Wairegi is currently 68 years.The old club have maintained a tight grip and little is known about potential successor because of underhand dealings on-going which they don't want to expose.
--The exposure to Equity for Britam is too heavy currently at 20% of total assets;Equity Bank is currently facing heavy scrutiny from CBK same as HFCK. Post #419Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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12 MONTHS RETURN FORECASTS (as per FT.com)Top 10 are interesting! Cables 199%Kengen 161%NBK 142%Pan African 108%Kenya Power 90%ARM Cement 85%Uchumi 85%KCB 79%Kenol 77%COOP 56%BBK 55%BOC 52%EA Portland 41%TPS 40%CIC 40%HFC 40%Scangroup 40%SCB 40%CFC Stanbic 34%Centum 34%I&M 34%Jubilee 34%Unga 31%Total 30%Kenya Re 27%DTB 27%Equity 24%EABL 24% KQ 23%Safaricom 20% Liberty 19%Bamburi 17% NMG 14%NSE 11% BAT 6%Carbacid -14% Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Kayole
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sparkly wrote:12 MONTHS RETURN FORECASTS (as per FT.com)
Top 10 are interesting!
Cables 199%
Kengen 161%
NBK 142%
Pan African 108%
Kenya Power 90%
ARM Cement 85%
Uchumi 85%
KCB 79%
Kenol 77%
COOP 56%
BBK 55%
BOC 52%
EA Portland 41%
TPS 40%
CIC 40%
HFC 40%
Scangroup 40%
SCB 40%
CFC Stanbic 34%
Centum 34%
I&M 34%
Jubilee 34%
Unga 31%
Total 30%
Kenya Re 27%
DTB 27%
Equity 24%
EABL 24%
KQ 23%
Safaricom 20%
Liberty 19%
Bamburi 17%
NMG 14%
NSE 11%
BAT 6%
Carbacid -14%
what is this yawa? KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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mkate_nusu wrote:sparkly wrote:12 MONTHS RETURN FORECASTS (as per FT.com)
Top 10 are interesting!
Cables 199%
Kengen 161%
NBK 142%
Pan African 108%
Kenya Power 90%
ARM Cement 85%
Uchumi 85%
KCB 79%
Kenol 77%
COOP 56%
BBK 55%
BOC 52%
EA Portland 41%
TPS 40%
CIC 40%
HFC 40%
Scangroup 40%
SCB 40%
CFC Stanbic 34%
Centum 34%
I&M 34%
Jubilee 34%
Unga 31%
Total 30%
Kenya Re 27%
DTB 27%
Equity 24%
EABL 24%
KQ 23%
Safaricom 20%
Liberty 19%
Bamburi 17%
NMG 14%
NSE 11%
BAT 6%
Carbacid -14%
what is this yawa? I tried to read this list upside down where top to be least performing since uchumi and nbk are top but looking at the bottom where I assumed are good performance then there I saw KQ. I got a headache and confused out of this . I don't know what this list is for but whatever the returns are for may we get deep explanation...@sparkly
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:12 MONTHS RETURN FORECASTS (as per FT.com)
Top 10 are interesting!
Cables 199%
Kengen 161%
NBK 142%
Pan African 108%
Kenya Power 90%
ARM Cement 85%
Uchumi 85%
KCB 79%
Kenol 77%
COOP 56%
BBK 55%
BOC 52%
EA Portland 41%
TPS 40%
CIC 40%
HFC 40%
Scangroup 40%
SCB 40%
CFC Stanbic 34%
Centum 34%
I&M 34%
Jubilee 34%
Unga 31%
Total 30%
Kenya Re 27%
DTB 27%
Equity 24%
EABL 24%
KQ 23%
Safaricom 20%
Liberty 19%
Bamburi 17%
NMG 14%
NSE 11%
BAT 6%
Carbacid -14%
Putting KQ together with Equity?    Total beating KK? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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mkate_nusu wrote:sparkly wrote:12 MONTHS RETURN FORECASTS (as per FT.com)
Top 10 are interesting!
Cables 199%
Kengen 161%
NBK 142%
Pan African 108%
Kenya Power 90%
ARM Cement 85%
Uchumi 85%
KCB 79%
Kenol 77%
COOP 56%
BBK 55%
BOC 52%
EA Portland 41%
TPS 40%
CIC 40%
HFC 40%
Scangroup 40%
SCB 40%
CFC Stanbic 34%
Centum 34%
I&M 34%
Jubilee 34%
Unga 31%
Total 30%
Kenya Re 27%
DTB 27%
Equity 24%
EABL 24%
KQ 23%
Safaricom 20%
Liberty 19%
Bamburi 17%
NMG 14%
NSE 11%
BAT 6%
Carbacid -14%
what is this yawa? Go to www.ft.com , search company in the "search" box top right corner. click "forecasts" tab. The site gives analyst's consensus forecasts for various stocks. I have taken the most optimistic forecasts available. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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KK 77% beats Total 30%. ECB and KQ have similar upside according to the analysts polled. ECB TP 50, KQ TP 4.8 Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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KQ target price of KES 4.8 is modest. I foresee minimum KES 14 in next 12 months
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:KQ target price of KES 4.8 is modest. I foresee minimum KES 14 in next 12 months @Obiero - Let's make a bet. For something tangible. If I win you donate KES 100,000/- to a charity of my choice. If you win, I will do the same. We can try and find an independent person to 'mediate' [make sure we fulfill our commitment.] If KQ touches KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, I @VVS will donate 100,000/- (or KQ shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @Obiero's choice. If KQ does NOT touch KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, @Obiero will donate 100,000/- (or KK shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @VVS's choice. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:KQ target price of KES 4.8 is modest. I foresee minimum KES 14 in next 12 months @Obiero - Let's make a bet. For something tangible. If I win you donate KES 100,000/- to a charity of my choice. If you win, I will do the same. We can try and find an independent person to 'mediate' [make sure we fulfill our commitment.] If KQ touches KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, I @VVS will donate 100,000/- (or KQ shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @Obiero's choice. If KQ does NOT touch KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, @Obiero will donate 100,000/- (or KK shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @VVS's choice. I offer to mediate Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:KQ target price of KES 4.8 is modest. I foresee minimum KES 14 in next 12 months @Obiero - Let's make a bet. For something tangible. If I win you donate KES 100,000/- to a charity of my choice. If you win, I will do the same. We can try and find an independent person to 'mediate' [make sure we fulfill our commitment.] If KQ touches KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, I @VVS will donate 100,000/- (or KQ shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @Obiero's choice. If KQ does NOT touch KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, @Obiero will donate 100,000/- (or KK shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @VVS's choice. I offer to mediate it's on
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:KQ target price of KES 4.8 is modest. I foresee minimum KES 14 in next 12 months @Obiero - Let's make a bet. For something tangible. If I win you donate KES 100,000/- to a charity of my choice. If you win, I will do the same. We can try and find an independent person to 'mediate' [make sure we fulfill our commitment.] If KQ touches KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, I @VVS will donate 100,000/- (or KQ shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @Obiero's choice. If KQ does NOT touch KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, @Obiero will donate 100,000/- (or KK shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @VVS's choice. I offer to mediate it's on prrrrrr... Whistle blown Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:KQ target price of KES 4.8 is modest. I foresee minimum KES 14 in next 12 months @Obiero - Let's make a bet. For something tangible. If I win you donate KES 100,000/- to a charity of my choice. If you win, I will do the same. We can try and find an independent person to 'mediate' [make sure we fulfill our commitment.] If KQ touches KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, I @VVS will donate 100,000/- (or KQ shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @Obiero's choice. If KQ does NOT touch KES 14.00 on or before 12 June 2017 for total trades of at least 100,000 shares, @Obiero will donate 100,000/- (or KK shares worth 100,000/-) to a charity of @VVS's choice. I offer to mediate it's on @Wazua Admin - Could you be the 'mediator' [as well the folks who make sure the funds get to the charity of the winning party on/after 13th June 2017?] Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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