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CIC Insurance FY15 Pancake-Flat EPS
Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:27:02 PM
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FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS
• Gross earned premium decreased by 5% from KShs.13.3 b in 2014 to KShs.12.6 b in 2015
• Total assets increased by 5% to KShs.24.9 b
• Shareholders’ funds were up by 9% to KShs.7.8 b
Profit before tax declined by 4% to Kshs.1.3 b while profit after tax increased by 4%

The year 2015 started off on a promising note but the significant increase in interest rates and the notable depreciation of the East African currencies against the US dollar in the second half turned the year into an extremely challenging one. The twin devaluation of both equities quoted on the NSE and bonds marked to market also had an impact on previously expected investment income.

Our gross earned premium dropped by 5% largely because of a deliberate strategy to streamline our medical business as well as our group life business which saw a number of large loss making accounts exit our portfolio. This strategy has already started bearing fruit.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:28:46 PM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:30:31 PM
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DIVIDENDS
The directors recommend the payment of a first and final dividend of 10.5% of paid up share capital totalling to Ksh 274,635,699 (2014 – Ksh 261,553,852). The dividend is subject to shareholders’ approval at the Annual General Meeting and payment will be subject to withholding tax at the applicable rate.
The payment will be made on or about 20th June 2016 to the shareholders registered at the close of business on 6 May 2016.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#4 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:32:53 PM
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OUTLOOK
Going forward, we are confident that our focus on pricing premiums competitively whilst ensuring profitability (hahaha), and our deliberate diversification into lines of business
where we have traditionally not been big players (namely?) will certainly deliver good results.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
mlennyma
#5 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:38:20 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
OUTLOOK
Going forward, we are confident that our focus on pricing premiums competitively whilst ensuring profitability (hahaha), and our deliberate diversification into lines of business
where we have traditionally not been big players (namely?) will certainly deliver good results.

above my expectations when everyone was issuing profit warnings
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Spikes
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:38:36 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
OUTLOOK
Going forward, we are confident that our focus on pricing premiums competitively whilst ensuring profitability (hahaha), and our deliberate diversification into lines of business
where we have traditionally not been big players (namely?) will certainly deliver good results.



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mlennyma
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:41:55 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
DIVIDENDS
The directors recommend the payment of a first and final dividend of 10.5% of paid up share capital totalling to Ksh 274,635,699 (2014 – Ksh 261,553,852). The dividend is subject to shareholders’ approval at the Annual General Meeting and payment will be subject to withholding tax at the applicable rate.
The payment will be made on or about 20th June 2016 to the shareholders registered at the close of business on 6 May 2016.

sasa dividend ni peni gapi pesa nane?calculate
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Pesa Nane
#8 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:14:40 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
DIVIDENDS
The directors recommend the payment of a first and final dividend of 10.5% of paid up share capital totalling to Ksh 274,635,699 (2014 – Ksh 261,553,852). The dividend is subject to shareholders’ approval at the Annual General Meeting and payment will be subject to withholding tax at the applicable rate.
The payment will be made on or about 20th June 2016 to the shareholders registered at the close of business on 6 May 2016.

sasa dividend ni peni gapi pesa nane?calculate

Peni kumi u nusu (Cents 10.5) TBC
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Aguytrying
#9 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:35:18 PM
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@8c. Ur the most useful wazuan. Cic I find it overvalued, compared to its peers. Yet not a market leader. Promising future prospects though
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#10 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:40:16 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@8c. Ur the most useful wazuan. Cic I find it overvalued, compared to its peers. Yet not a market leader. Promising future prospects though

After the bonus I bailed out left around 10k shares then also reduced to 3.4k shares after proper analysis.. When it gets to 4/- and below I'll load up in bits for future.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
enyands
#11 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:44:34 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@8c. Ur the most useful wazuan. Cic I find it overvalued, compared to its peers. Yet not a market leader. Promising future prospects though

.
I agree on that . Will get him beer one day.
Pesa Nane
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:25:49 PM
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enyands wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@8c. Ur the most useful wazuan. Cic I find it overvalued, compared to its peers. Yet not a market leader. Promising future prospects though

.
I agree on that . Will get him beer one day. (hihihi, I'am from the opus order smile )

Honored. Thanks.

That's my school fees- plant the data, reap the analysis. perfect symbiosis.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
enyands
#13 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:44:46 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
enyands wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@8c. Ur the most useful wazuan. Cic I find it overvalued, compared to its peers. Yet not a market leader. Promising future prospects though

.
I agree on that . Will get him beer one day. (hihihi, I'am from the opus order smile )

Honored. Thanks.

That's my school fees- plant the data, reap the analysis. perfect symbiosis.


Makes sense
Ericsson
#14 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 10:50:00 AM
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Just going through the balance sheet and I see there is a big jump nearly triple on the value of equity investments.
Seems the company last year was on a buying spree last year when shares were cheap.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
hisah
#15 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 11:30:01 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Just going through the balance sheet and I see there is a big jump nearly triple on the value of equity investments.
Seems the company last year was on a buying spree last year when shares were cheap.

Seen that too. I note that previously they've not been holding equities. Interesting move. Adding it to my watch list.
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joga bonito
#16 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 12:03:18 PM
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I think their portfolio on investment income was majorly on fixed deposits & govt. papers hence ripping on the high interest environment especially in Q4.
Ericsson
#17 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 12:57:33 PM
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@joga bonito;
That's true
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mlennyma
#18 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 1:45:16 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@8c. Ur the most useful wazuan. Cic I find it overvalued, compared to its peers. Yet not a market leader. Promising future prospects though

After the bonus I bailed out left around 10k shares then also reduced to 3.4k shares after proper analysis.. When it gets to 4/- and below I'll load up in bits for future.

Utagoja sana mtu wa 4bob or never buy at all
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Ericsson
#19 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 3:43:43 PM
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CIC General contributing 65%, CIC Life contributing 27%, CIC Asset contributing 1% to the PBT
Investment in equity is informed by the soundness of the businesses we invest in
CIC will pay a dividend per share of 10.5 cents compared to the 10 cent in 2014.
Going Forward we are working to turnaround the Medical Business.
2016 we focus on individual life and pensions,Investment in technology to enhance customer service.
In 2016 we plan to grow by 30% on Medical Business. General Business average growth 15%
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Sam_Kibs
#20 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 4:28:24 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@8c. Ur the most useful wazuan. Cic I find it overvalued, compared to its peers. Yet not a market leader. Promising future prospects though

After the bonus I bailed out left around 10k shares then also reduced to 3.4k shares after proper analysis.. When it gets to 4/- and below I'll load up in bits for future.

Utagoja sana mtu wa 4bob or never buy at all

this stock is overvalued tena sana. I have a few units at average of 5.95. i can never pay more than 6bob for it. anything below my average price am in.
“It’s no good, it’s no good!” says the buyer—
then goes off and boasts about the purchase-Proverbs 20:14
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