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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:[quote=watesh]For those who would like to know more about Kengen operations, new source of revenue and plans here is an interview by Alykhan Satchu, even more Kengen stuff within his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvcue8FVs0E[/quote] A great infomercial. I have thought of selling all the Kengen shares i bought at 5.50-6.00 then i asked myself: What share, at a better valuation will I put the money in? I haven't come across any. I sold most of my Kengen. I am selling remaining few today. I have decided to be in cash temporarily
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:[quote=watesh]For those who would like to know more about Kengen operations, new source of revenue and plans here is an interview by Alykhan Satchu, even more Kengen stuff within his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvcue8FVs0E[/quote] A great infomercial. I have thought of selling all the Kengen shares i bought at 5.50-6.00 then i asked myself: What share, at a better valuation will I put the money in? I haven't come across any. Buy Safcom. It will hit kes 20 per share soon. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:[quote=watesh]For those who would like to know more about Kengen operations, new source of revenue and plans here is an interview by Alykhan Satchu, even more Kengen stuff within his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvcue8FVs0E[/quote] A great infomercial. I have thought of selling all the Kengen shares i bought at 5.50-6.00 then i asked myself: What share, at a better valuation will I put the money in? I haven't come across any. Buy Safcom. It will hit kes 20 per share soon. Let me consider it. I need another ride of 30% by end year
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:[quote=watesh]For those who would like to know more about Kengen operations, new source of revenue and plans here is an interview by Alykhan Satchu, even more Kengen stuff within his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvcue8FVs0E[/quote] A great infomercial. I have thought of selling all the Kengen shares i bought at 5.50-6.00 then i asked myself: What share, at a better valuation will I put the money in? I haven't come across any. Buy Safcom. It will hit kes 20 per share soon. What's supporting your claim
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:[quote=watesh]For those who would like to know more about Kengen operations, new source of revenue and plans here is an interview by Alykhan Satchu, even more Kengen stuff within his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvcue8FVs0E[/quote] A great infomercial. I have thought of selling all the Kengen shares i bought at 5.50-6.00 then i asked myself: What share, at a better valuation will I put the money in? I haven't come across any. Buy Safcom. It will hit kes 20 per share soon. I am looking for 100% gain or more. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:[quote=watesh]For those who would like to know more about Kengen operations, new source of revenue and plans here is an interview by Alykhan Satchu, even more Kengen stuff within his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvcue8FVs0E[/quote] A great infomercial. I have thought of selling all the Kengen shares i bought at 5.50-6.00 then i asked myself: What share, at a better valuation will I put the money in? I haven't come across any. KenGen sounds good but except for KenRe, I am staying away from GoK firms for now. Even KenRe, I try and watch it like a hawk as best as I can. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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PKoli wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:[quote=watesh]For those who would like to know more about Kengen operations, new source of revenue and plans here is an interview by Alykhan Satchu, even more Kengen stuff within his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvcue8FVs0E[/quote] A great infomercial. I have thought of selling all the Kengen shares i bought at 5.50-6.00 then i asked myself: What share, at a better valuation will I put the money in? I haven't come across any. Buy Safcom. It will hit kes 20 per share soon. Let me consider it. I need another ride of 30% by end year @Sparkly. well done, though speculating is an emotional rollercoaster The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Aguytrying wrote:PKoli wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:[quote=watesh]For those who would like to know more about Kengen operations, new source of revenue and plans here is an interview by Alykhan Satchu, even more Kengen stuff within his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvcue8FVs0E[/quote] A great infomercial. I have thought of selling all the Kengen shares i bought at 5.50-6.00 then i asked myself: What share, at a better valuation will I put the money in? I haven't come across any. Buy Safcom. It will hit kes 20 per share soon. Let me consider it. I need another ride of 30% by end year @Sparkly. well done, though speculating is an emotional rollercoaster @aguy company was trading at a valuation of 25% of the shareholders equity, DY was 11%. That's not speculating it's investment. The fear of dilution is an imaginary fear. To avoid dilution, I will simply take up my rights or sell them. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said. The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018. The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion. “The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement. Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business. KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 969 Location: Kenya
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Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough the long period of colonial rule helped south Africa development wise because the whites were developing the country, africans are best at eating everything "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 467 Location: Nairobi
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watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough Expensive but they do pay back. 140MW * 365 days * 24 Hrs * 1000 Kwh * 0.09 US cents * 100 KES/USD exchange rate = KES 11.0376 Billion in a year. At JICA loans of less than 4% the plant pays itself back comfortably.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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kawi254 wrote:watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough Expensive but they do pay back. 140MW * 365 days * 24 Hrs * 1000 Kwh * 0.09 US cents * 100 KES/USD exchange rate = KES 11.0376 Billion in a year. At JICA loans of less than 4% the plant pays itself back comfortably. Kawi254 does this unit run cost free. No maintenance, shutdowns, operations direct cost. You did well to pull a cat out of the bag, say operating margin for this firm before depreciation is say 2bn. Very generously. And say entire figure goes to offsetting the principal, that translates to over 20 yrs without paying interest. Correct me where am wrong. If wishes were horses, I would be owning a geothermal field coz I would do better. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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muandiwambeu wrote:kawi254 wrote:watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough Expensive but they do pay back. 140MW * 365 days * 24 Hrs * 1000 Kwh * 0.09 US cents * 100 KES/USD exchange rate = KES 11.0376 Billion in a year. At JICA loans of less than 4% the plant pays itself back comfortably. Kawi254 does this unit run cost free. No maintenance, shutdowns, operations direct cost. You did well to pull a cat out of the bag, say operating margin for this firm before depreciation is say 2bn. Very generously. And say entire figure goes to offsetting the principal, that translates to over 20 yrs without paying interest. Correct me where am wrong. If wishes were horses, I would be owning a geothermal field coz I would do better. You are also assuming the plant runs@100% Load Factor and 100% availability. Further, 41B is only for power plant construction. Remember the wells and associated infrastructure were drilled at a cost.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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PKoli wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:kawi254 wrote:watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough Expensive but they do pay back. 140MW * 365 days * 24 Hrs * 1000 Kwh * 0.09 US cents * 100 KES/USD exchange rate = KES 11.0376 Billion in a year. At JICA loans of less than 4% the plant pays itself back comfortably. Kawi254 does this unit run cost free. No maintenance, shutdowns, operations direct cost. You did well to pull a cat out of the bag, say operating margin for this firm before depreciation is say 2bn. Very generously. And say entire figure goes to offsetting the principal, that translates to over 20 yrs without paying interest. Correct me where am wrong. If wishes were horses, I would be owning a geothermal field coz I would do better. You are also assuming the plant runs@100% Load Factor and 100% availability. Further, 41B is only for power plant construction. Remember the wells and associated infrastructure were drilled at a cost. I like Kengen for the quick turn-around of revenues: i) Cheap loans to do feasibility, drilling, well development, design, procurement, build, installation and commissioning. ii) Drilling for third parties e.g Akira Power as a source of revenue iii) Selling steam to Oserian and others for additional revenue. iv) Mobile well-head technology to produce power at the steam well sites, before the fully pledged plants are commissioned. v) Priority uptake of geothermal energy from KPLC upon commissioning. vi) Tariff paid for installed capacity and actual power sales by KPLC. vii) Higher than expected availability due to the new plants and non-seasonality of geo-thermal. viii) Push through of foreign exchange losses to consumers through the PPA hence protection from FOREX losses. viii) 150% tax allowances on the power plants in first year of use, meaning a lower effective tax rate. The only draw back is the high capital requirements and low return on assets but if you can get in at a low stock price, this is a keeper. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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sparkly wrote:PKoli wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:kawi254 wrote:watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough Expensive but they do pay back. 140MW * 365 days * 24 Hrs * 1000 Kwh * 0.09 US cents * 100 KES/USD exchange rate = KES 11.0376 Billion in a year. At JICA loans of less than 4% the plant pays itself back comfortably. Kawi254 does this unit run cost free. No maintenance, shutdowns, operations direct cost. You did well to pull a cat out of the bag, say operating margin for this firm before depreciation is say 2bn. Very generously. And say entire figure goes to offsetting the principal, that translates to over 20 yrs without paying interest. Correct me where am wrong. If wishes were horses, I would be owning a geothermal field coz I would do better. You are also assuming the plant runs@100% Load Factor and 100% availability. Further, 41B is only for power plant construction. Remember the wells and associated infrastructure were drilled at a cost. I like Kengen for the quick turn-around of revenues: i) Cheap loans to do feasibility, drilling, well development, design, procurement, build, installation and commissioning. ii) Drilling for third parties e.g Akira Power as a source of revenue iii) Selling steam to Oserian and others for additional revenue. iv) Mobile well-head technology to produce power at the steam well sites, before the fully pledged plants are commissioned. v) Priority uptake of geothermal energy from KPLC upon commissioning, retiring the thermal plants. vi) Tariff paid for installed capacity and actual power sales by KPLC hence assured revenue even when plants are down or not operating at full capacity. vii) Higher than expected availability due to the new plants and non-seasonality of geo-thermal. viii) Push through of foreign exchange losses to consumers through the PPA hence protection from FOREX losses. viii) 150% tax allowances on the power plants in first year of use, meaning a lower effective tax rate. The only draw back is the high capital requirements and low return on assets but if you can get in at a low stock price, this is a keeper. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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sparkly wrote:sparkly wrote:PKoli wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:kawi254 wrote:watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough Expensive but they do pay back. 140MW * 365 days * 24 Hrs * 1000 Kwh * 0.09 US cents * 100 KES/USD exchange rate = KES 11.0376 Billion in a year. At JICA loans of less than 4% the plant pays itself back comfortably. Kawi254 does this unit run cost free. No maintenance, shutdowns, operations direct cost. You did well to pull a cat out of the bag, say operating margin for this firm before depreciation is say 2bn. Very generously. And say entire figure goes to offsetting the principal, that translates to over 20 yrs without paying interest. Correct me where am wrong. If wishes were horses, I would be owning a geothermal field coz I would do better. You are also assuming the plant runs@100% Load Factor and 100% availability. Further, 41B is only for power plant construction. Remember the wells and associated infrastructure were drilled at a cost. I like Kengen for the quick turn-around of revenues: i) Cheap loans to do feasibility, drilling, well development, design, procurement, build, installation and commissioning. ii) Drilling for third parties e.g Akira Power as a source of revenue iii) Selling steam to Oserian and others for additional revenue. iv) Mobile well-head technology to produce power at the steam well sites, before the fully pledged plants are commissioned. v) Priority uptake of geothermal energy from KPLC upon commissioning, retiring the thermal plants. vi) Tariff paid for installed capacity and actual power sales by KPLC hence assured revenue even when plants are down or not operating at full capacity. vii) Higher than expected availability due to the new plants and non-seasonality of geo-thermal. viii) Push through of foreign exchange losses to consumers through the PPA hence protection from FOREX losses. viii) 150% tax allowances on the power plants in first year of use, meaning a lower effective tax rate. The only draw back is the high capital requirements and low return on assets but if you can get in at a low stock price, this is a keeper. Kenjen is a stress central fiasco. You will be treated to high above market capex, tenderprenuerism and kick backs will leave you yawning for dividends or real growth, gavas flirting fingers will never allow this co make a virgin neither a bride for that valued dowery. Scams against scam right left centre. And like if that's not enough, you will be washed washed now to the end n then mega rights and dilution kibao. Once geothermal binge is over, then will start on solar or something else like nukes and you will have grown grey hair, lost teeth and life juice like huyo watchman anayengojea battery ya chrolide from his boss. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:sparkly wrote:sparkly wrote:PKoli wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:kawi254 wrote:watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough Expensive but they do pay back. 140MW * 365 days * 24 Hrs * 1000 Kwh * 0.09 US cents * 100 KES/USD exchange rate = KES 11.0376 Billion in a year. At JICA loans of less than 4% the plant pays itself back comfortably. Kawi254 does this unit run cost free. No maintenance, shutdowns, operations direct cost. You did well to pull a cat out of the bag, say operating margin for this firm before depreciation is say 2bn. Very generously. And say entire figure goes to offsetting the principal, that translates to over 20 yrs without paying interest. Correct me where am wrong. If wishes were horses, I would be owning a geothermal field coz I would do better. You are also assuming the plant runs@100% Load Factor and 100% availability. Further, 41B is only for power plant construction. Remember the wells and associated infrastructure were drilled at a cost. I like Kengen for the quick turn-around of revenues: i) Cheap loans to do feasibility, drilling, well development, design, procurement, build, installation and commissioning. ii) Drilling for third parties e.g Akira Power as a source of revenue iii) Selling steam to Oserian and others for additional revenue. iv) Mobile well-head technology to produce power at the steam well sites, before the fully pledged plants are commissioned. v) Priority uptake of geothermal energy from KPLC upon commissioning, retiring the thermal plants. vi) Tariff paid for installed capacity and actual power sales by KPLC hence assured revenue even when plants are down or not operating at full capacity. vii) Higher than expected availability due to the new plants and non-seasonality of geo-thermal. viii) Push through of foreign exchange losses to consumers through the PPA hence protection from FOREX losses. viii) 150% tax allowances on the power plants in first year of use, meaning a lower effective tax rate. The only draw back is the high capital requirements and low return on assets but if you can get in at a low stock price, this is a keeper. Kenjen is a stress central fiasco. {No stress so far. Average buy 6.70. Already in capital gains of approx. 20% on my investment to date. Received Dividends at 6.5% on my investment last year} You will be treated to high above market capex, tenderprenuerism and kick backs will leave you yawning for dividends or real growth, {These are risks I am willing to take at current price. My strategy is to get a 10% DY on my investment and take capital gains as a bonus} gavas flirting fingers will never allow this co make a virgin neither a bride for that valued dowery. Scams against scam right left centre. {Do you have basis or is this mere baseless gossip?} And like if that's not enough, you will be washed washed now to the end n then mega rights and dilution kibao. {I have a plan for the rights issue.}
Once geothermal binge is over, then will start on solar or something else like nukes {If the ROI is good why not?} and you will have grown grey hair, lost teeth and life juice like huyo watchman anayengojea battery ya chrolide from his boss. {LOL no comment} My response in blue
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The average ROI for a power station in Africa is about 20-25 years. In Europe they are trying to work on a formula that will have the ROI being 11 years Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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sparkly wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:sparkly wrote:sparkly wrote:PKoli wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:kawi254 wrote:watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya and Japan on Wednesday yesterday signed a Ksh 41 billion ($408 million) loan agreement to go towards building a 140 megawatt (MW) geothermal power plant that is expected to be operational within the next two years, the two governments said.
The Olkaria V,which will be built by the Nairobi Securities Exchange Listed-Kenya Electricity Generating Company (KenGen), which has said it expects to begin construction in July, with the plant arriving on the grid by the end of 2018.
The plant is part of KenGen’s plans to add 720 MW of electricity – most of it from geothermal sources – to the grid between this year and 2020, at a cost of just over $2 billion.
“The credit we have received today will fund the construction of a power generation plant to tap on the vast geothermal steam at Olkaria Geothermal field for generation of additional 140 MW electricity to be put to the national grid,” National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich said after signing the agreement.
Kenya, which depends mostly on renewable energy such as geothermal and hydro power, plans to increase it power generating capacity to about 6,700 MW by 2017, from about 2,500 MW currently. It also aims to cut electricity bills, tackling problems regularly blamed for holding back Kenyan business.
KenGen has a commitment to produce 844 MW for the grid under the plan, and says it had already added 374 MW.
These things are expensive...41bn for just 140MW...when will we ever get to the 40,000MW of SA or 31,000MW in Egypt. These guys are doing 15 times our production and they claim its not enough Expensive but they do pay back. 140MW * 365 days * 24 Hrs * 1000 Kwh * 0.09 US cents * 100 KES/USD exchange rate = KES 11.0376 Billion in a year. At JICA loans of less than 4% the plant pays itself back comfortably. Kawi254 does this unit run cost free. No maintenance, shutdowns, operations direct cost. You did well to pull a cat out of the bag, say operating margin for this firm before depreciation is say 2bn. Very generously. And say entire figure goes to offsetting the principal, that translates to over 20 yrs without paying interest. Correct me where am wrong. If wishes were horses, I would be owning a geothermal field coz I would do better. You are also assuming the plant runs@100% Load Factor and 100% availability. Further, 41B is only for power plant construction. Remember the wells and associated infrastructure were drilled at a cost. I like Kengen for the quick turn-around of revenues: i) Cheap loans to do feasibility, drilling, well development, design, procurement, build, installation and commissioning. ii) Drilling for third parties e.g Akira Power as a source of revenue iii) Selling steam to Oserian and others for additional revenue. iv) Mobile well-head technology to produce power at the steam well sites, before the fully pledged plants are commissioned. v) Priority uptake of geothermal energy from KPLC upon commissioning, retiring the thermal plants. vi) Tariff paid for installed capacity and actual power sales by KPLC hence assured revenue even when plants are down or not operating at full capacity. vii) Higher than expected availability due to the new plants and non-seasonality of geo-thermal. viii) Push through of foreign exchange losses to consumers through the PPA hence protection from FOREX losses. viii) 150% tax allowances on the power plants in first year of use, meaning a lower effective tax rate. The only draw back is the high capital requirements and low return on assets but if you can get in at a low stock price, this is a keeper. Kenjen is a stress central fiasco. {No stress so far. Average buy 6.70. Already in capital gains of approx. 20% on my investment to date. Received Dividends at 6.5% on my investment last year} You will be treated to high above market capex, tenderprenuerism and kick backs will leave you yawning for dividends or real growth, {These are risks I am willing to take at current price. My strategy is to get a 10% DY on my investment and take capital gains as a bonus} gavas flirting fingers will never allow this co make a virgin neither a bride for that valued dowery. Scams against scam right left centre. {Do you have basis or is this mere baseless gossip?} And like if that's not enough, you will be washed washed now to the end n then mega rights and dilution kibao. {I have a plan for the rights issue.}
Once geothermal binge is over, then will start on solar or something else like nukes {If the ROI is good why not?} and you will have grown grey hair, lost teeth and life juice like huyo watchman anayengojea battery ya chrolide from his boss. {LOL no comment} My response in blue
Have you ever heard of an appraisal technique called cost benefit analysis and in depth tried to interrogate what the term benefit means. Costs definitely may mean undertaking very pricely projects and the benefits are money for tendenderprenuers, fame and economy stabilisation na sio divinded or profit. If u are up-to-date with the state of affairs you should not be asking for facts and evidences when they are a common know to many. @ericson I cable you straight. But I will not ask a kids whether they know their parents are estranged. The look says it allllllll.whats the average moving three year dy we compare. Even Raban had an idea how to marry her first blind dota @sparkly. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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