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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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I have always been fascinated by just how many african societies consider themselves "jews" or "jew-like". It is not uncommon to hear Kyuks referring to themselves as the jews of kenya. The Pokot consider themselves the lost tribe of israel The Lemba people of Zimbabwe consider themselves the lost tribe of israel The igbo of Nigeria as well,... Heck I even heard a friend claim that Liberia is "Africa's israel". Some Ghanians consider themselves jewish... some Senegalese... I am sure the list goes on What is with the obsession... Accept wewe ni mwafrika! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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masukuma wrote:I have always been fascinated by just how many african societies consider themselves "jews" or "jew-like". It is not uncommon to hear Kyuks referring to themselves as the jews of kenya. The Pokot consider themselves the lost tribe of israel The Lemba people of Zimbabwe consider themselves the lost tribe of israel The igbo of Nigeria as well,... Heck I even heard a friend claim that Liberia is "Africa's israel". Some Ghanians consider themselves jewish... some Senegalese... I am sure the list goes on What is with the obsession... Accept wewe ni mwafrika! who said a mwafrika cannot be a jew? You can be a jew through self identification or practicing their culture and religion. If many christians consider themselves descendants of Abraham, then all christians are jews too! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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On the other hand, Iḿ always fascinated by those who cling on to the 'African' brand. You see some Europeans insisting they are 'African'. Even some Americans who easily trace their lineages back to Europe insist they are 'African'. Look at the American president. For all intents and purposes he is American yet still 'remembers' his 'African' roots. These 'African' labels is superficial. That is the evolution of it. We must accept that 'African' is nothing and move on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Wakorino are the lost tribe of Yisrael. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Black jewry is fascinating... there is a book about it... apparently the Ashanti, Tutsi, Igbo, Zulu, Beta Israel, Maasai and many others claim to be jews... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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masukuma wrote:Black jewry is fascinating... there is a book about it... apparently the Ashanti, Tutsi, Igbo, Zulu, Beta Israel, Maasai and many others claim to be jews... Who is a jew? Is it by birth, religion, culture, geography etc? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Anti_Burglar wrote: On the other hand, Iḿ always fascinated by those who cling on to the 'African' brand. You see some Europeans insisting they are 'African'. Even some Americans who easily trace their lineages back to Europe insist they are 'African'. Look at the American president. For all intents and purposes he is American yet still 'remembers' his 'African' roots. These 'African' labels is superficial. That is the evolution of it. We must accept that 'African' is nothing and move on.
wewe...sasa...wewe! anzisha thread yako na hiyo topic! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:masukuma wrote:Black jewry is fascinating... there is a book about it... apparently the Ashanti, Tutsi, Igbo, Zulu, Beta Israel, Maasai and many others claim to be jews... Who is a jew? Is it by birth, religion, culture, geography etc? apparently...By claim! if you look different from the people around you. if you have distinct cultures from those around you, if you have beaten them in war over and over again. Then Christianity shows up on your door step... you automatically associate with the conquests of the Israelites then draw an imaginary line between the so called lost tribes of israel (Samarians) and you... and then teach that to your kids... a couple of generations later - everyone has internalized the claim. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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I thought some Kenyan tribes have tried hard to show how they are descended from ancient Egyptians The Kikuyu, Maasai, Kalenjin and Luo . Philip Ochieng keeps writing about how the Luo were from Egypt... Hiyo ya Israel, apart from drawing comparison in experiences tendencies etc sijaskia saana
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:I thought some Kenyan tribes have tried hard to show how they are descended from ancient Egyptians
The Kikuyu, Maasai, Kalenjin and Luo . Philip Ochieng keeps writing about how the Luo were from Egypt...
Hiyo ya Israel, apart from drawing comparison in experiences tendencies etc sijaskia saana there is also the who Egypt claim as well... I think the Wangas from Mumias also claim walitoka 'misri' All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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here is another bunch http://gnosticwarrior.com/beda.html
some arabs claim that during the exodus some hebrews got lost and created the "tahayat". the keyword is "isolation"... every group that claims is somehow isolated or feels isolated from the larger group. some claim to be because of their perceived superiority. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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I'm Dorobo and proud. The Dorobo also were hunter gatherers that occupied parts forests around Karura, forest road, ngong forest. Absorbed by the Kikuyu and Maasai, this groups together with the Gumba and Athi people have disappeared from history. Fact is, the kikuyu did not name most areas of muranga and nyeri, most place names there have no meaning in kikuyu. Also most kikuyu names have no meaning in kikuyu, reason being that they were adapted from earlier settlers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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majimaji wrote: I'm Dorobo and proud. The Dorobo also were hunter gatherers that occupied parts forests around Karura, forest road, ngong forest. Absorbed by the Kikuyu and Maasai, this groups together with the Gumba and Athi people have disappeared from history. Fact is, the kikuyu did not name most areas of muranga and nyeri, most place names there have no meaning in kikuyu. Also most kikuyu names have no meaning in kikuyu, reason being that they were adapted from earlier settlers.
sshhh... the guys who believe they originated from mukurwe wa nyagathanga will hear and realise their history is rubbish. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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Bottom line is that human race belong to one group either from a creation perspective or evolution perspective. So all those people claim to be jews,egyptians etc are not wrong If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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This isn't a peculiarity of Africans. Jewish claims have spread all over the globe. All are in the fray... but why? A starting point would be: Quote:During the Age of Discovery, European explorers attempted to connect many peoples with whom they first came into contact to the Ten Lost Tribes, sometimes in conjunction with attempts to introduce Christian missionaries. The first person to identify the lost tribes with an East Asian nation was João Rodriguez (1561-1634), a Jesuit missionary and interpreter. In 1608, he argued that the both the Japanese and the Chinese descended from the Lost Tribes of Israel. He believed that the Chinese sages Confucius and Lao-tse took their ideas from Judaism. That is, the claim could be driven by a natural inclination to seek legitimacy by identifying with the predominant social forces in a world.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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You should catch the 'African' experts in the many vernacular tv stations, the 'elders' give some questionable facts, ati ugali and githeri was a traditional Kikuyu food, many names of places in Kikuyu are just corruption of English names eg karatina. To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Kenyans are the Jah people of the Revelations and Prophecies of the Torah/Old Testament in King James Version. But this need a bit of reading my friend!!! Otherwise whether by evolution or biology, we are the progenitors of the Jews and Arabs, they got neanderthal somewhere but they are our kids, by astronomy, the telling of time as we know it could not have started anywhere other than on the equator, just as many religious historians have said this is Eden, "the center of God's garden", that was what those archaeologist/anthropologist who chose the name Kenya knew, Kenya really means Eden, Jahs Land we are the "fathers" of the Palestinians and Israelis", these are just our children, and chosen to bring peace unto them, otherwise the Holy passages point to Kenyans being the Jah people even in their 42 tribes including "others". As the dorobo up there has pointed out, they are a Key ingredient, in the Holy mix...it is true.. ...you are living in Zion A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Among the wise men who went to see Jesus,one of them was black. He offered myrrh as a gift which is said to have been used by the black community only. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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