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masukuma
#31 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2016 8:47:20 AM
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I have always wondered about traditions in general... why would you enslave yourself to traditions if you don't like them? each mother carries that baby alone - why would she be enslaved to what the community expects? I can understand why a person living in a village in the middle of central kenya would find it practical to name their kids in a way that brings harmony.... why should a person living in a cosmopolitan area feel compelled to name their kids in a certain way? ama it's the case of "the monkey leaving the tree but the tree not leaving the monkey"
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Impunity
#32 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2016 8:54:26 AM
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kysse wrote:
Impunity wrote:
While us Kisiis,our names mostly have no real meaning ,for instance Oigara (sigara),Emamba (mamba),Omoro (omollo),Getoi (toy),Esese (dog),Egesa (saa),Ondieki (fisi)...no meaning at all.


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mawinder
#33 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2016 1:47:25 PM
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masukuma wrote:
I have always wondered about traditions in general... why would you enslave yourself to traditions if you don't like them? each mother carries that baby alone - why would she be enslaved to what the community expects? I can understand why a person living in a village in the middle of central kenya would find it practical to name their kids in a way that brings harmony.... why should a person living in a cosmopolitan area feel compelled to name their kids in a certain way? ama it's the case of "the monkey leaving the tree but the tree not leaving the monkey"

Well put.That explains thieves like Waiguru, Gethi,Kabura,Kamau former roads CS,etc.
It also explains what Bigchick from Nyeri has done to Wetangula in Karen.
It also explains the rampant insecurity in Nairobi whom according to scholars is perpetrated by thieves expelled from Muranga who settled in a county near the city.
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Taurrus
#34 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2016 4:09:30 PM
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mawinder wrote:
masukuma wrote:
I have always wondered about traditions in general... why would you enslave yourself to traditions if you don't like them? each mother carries that baby alone - why would she be enslaved to what the community expects? I can understand why a person living in a village in the middle of central kenya would find it practical to name their kids in a way that brings harmony.... why should a person living in a cosmopolitan area feel compelled to name their kids in a certain way? ama it's the case of "the monkey leaving the tree but the tree not leaving the monkey"

Well put.That explains thieves like Waiguru, Gethi,Kabura,Kamau former roads CS,etc.
It also explains what Bigchick from Nyeri has done to Wetangula in Karen.
It also explains the rampant insecurity in Nairobi whom according to scholars is perpetrated by thieves expelled from Muranga who settled in a county near the city.

Burger!!
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Othelo
#35 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2016 4:34:59 PM
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Taurrus wrote:
mawinder wrote:
masukuma wrote:
I have always wondered about traditions in general... why would you enslave yourself to traditions if you don't like them? each mother carries that baby alone - why would she be enslaved to what the community expects? I can understand why a person living in a village in the middle of central kenya would find it practical to name their kids in a way that brings harmony.... why should a person living in a cosmopolitan area feel compelled to name their kids in a certain way? ama it's the case of "the monkey leaving the tree but the tree not leaving the monkey"

Well put.That explains thieves like Waiguru, Gethi,Kabura,Kamau former roads CS,etc.
It also explains what Bigchick from Nyeri has done to Wetangula in Karen.
It also explains the rampant insecurity in Nairobi whom according to scholars is perpetrated by thieves expelled from Muranga who settled in a county near the city.

Burger!!

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Rollins
#36 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2016 4:49:41 PM
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masukuma wrote:
I have always wondered about traditions in general... why would you enslave yourself to traditions if you don't like them? each mother carries that baby alone - why would she be enslaved to what the community expects? I can understand why a person living in a village in the middle of central kenya would find it practical to name their kids in a way that brings harmony.... why should a person living in a cosmopolitan area feel compelled to name their kids in a certain way? ama it's the case of "the monkey leaving the tree but the tree not leaving the monkey"

Traditions are not bad. All you need is to edit them as life goes on to fit your circumstance.
Every other human behaviour has a tradition.
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Thitifini
#37 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2016 7:07:22 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Shak wrote:
[quote=masukuma][quote=Cornelius Vanderbilt]
Also the Agikuyu system of name children isn't very good. Depending on the order of birth you are named eirher on your father's or mother's side. This can leads to favoritism or resentment by either parent. Then I don't understand why the man is not supposed to give his child his mother in law's name. Instead the child is named Gathoni or Muthoni as if her name is something to be ashamed of. I stand to be corrected.


Nowhere does the naming of children in Gikuyu have to follow a certain order. It all depends on the parents but since most of us know no other order,we are foolishly stuck with the old.Two,if it was true that all mother-in-laws are named Gathoni/Muthoni, then, three quarters of ladies from the Agikuyu would have no other name. Lemme say this not true.Isn't also true that anyone from your wife's side is a Muthoni?.May it be your brother-in-law, sister-in-law,father or even the mom in-law?. Three, there is a second meaning to the word Gathoni/Muthoni. Now you can ask.




Muthoni was supposed to be like a nickname by a father to the daughter named after mother-in-law. Reasoning was that calling the name of a mother-in-law was considered very disrespectful. However, the girl still retained their name to other people.....

In such instances, the name Gathoni was not used/replaced with Muthoni....

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Tara
#38 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2016 7:26:01 PM
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There is also naming according to age set/group (?) like the name Mwangi. I think these kind of names as well as names based on characteristics or situations like Nderu or Gathoni were especially useful if a family ended up with people who might share a name i.e. mom and daughter are both Wangui's or two brothers are Maina. You wouldn't want to cause confusion or be accused of calling your mother by her name!

Was the name Kariuki/Njoki used to avoid a curse or was it saying that the child who was lost has been returned?
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Njung'e
#39 Posted : Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:23:01 AM
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Tara wrote:


Was the name Kariuki/Njoki used to avoid a curse or was it saying that the child who was lost has been returned?


It was the latter.
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masukuma
#40 Posted : Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:32:16 AM
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Rollins wrote:
masukuma wrote:
I have always wondered about traditions in general... why would you enslave yourself to traditions if you don't like them? each mother carries that baby alone - why would she be enslaved to what the community expects? I can understand why a person living in a village in the middle of central kenya would find it practical to name their kids in a way that brings harmony.... why should a person living in a cosmopolitan area feel compelled to name their kids in a certain way? ama it's the case of "the monkey leaving the tree but the tree not leaving the monkey"

Traditions are not bad. All you need is to edit them as life goes on to fit your circumstance.
Every other human behaviour has a tradition.

It's the imprisonment I am talking about.
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