masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:harrydre wrote:tycho wrote:The Universe could also be as big as an observer can determine with her mind.
We just have no capability. It's like asking safari ants somewhere on Mt. kenya, to figure out the entire country. Do you see how impossible that would be? Yet, in their world, they know they are the best in building their kingdom, protecting it etc etc.
We are probably that 'small' in perspective to bigger things(beings) out there.
I have always held that the silence we experience may mean 3 things
1) we are alone
2) the others are so ahead that they in the same way we have no interest and don't try to communicate with fish or plants have no interest in communicating with us
3) they may be so 'behind' that the best they can offer would be plant level intelligence.
The silence can also be accounted for by other reasons;
4. We haven't built the capacity to listen ... like it's taken us years to discover cosmic background radiation waves ....
5. Design. For example we could be modelled like a program with 'information hiding'...
we could have a list of 1000 things why we experience the silence and that would still be a list synonymous to a list drawn up by a group of philosophizing ants in Mt. Kenya forest explaining just how they are the (for lack of a better word) Sh*t! how they rule the world. That list would not be influenced by bodies of water as large as lakes or seas or the knowledge of mountains larger than their mounds. This is what is know as a worldview!
In very much the same way it's similar to our other worldviews for example

Those guys would have never seen Marsupials or red wood trees. Heck there is no domestic cat in the bible. Everyone who goes to that place and comes back looks at Milima ya mizautuni as a a small hill. Our worldview may change as soon as an explorer's boot hits our mound and everything we ever thought we knew evaporates as it struggles to explain this bipedal creature.
World views do change, and it could be said that one of humanity's greatest strength is this ability to change world views.
Your ant metaphor, and relative size of Mt Zion however don't add much to discredit any world view. Any world view is valid if it helps optimize adaptation at any context. Man, will never have an ultimate and unchanging worldview that answers all his questions. In fact a lifetime is too brief for that.
What each of us is saying now is heavily influenced by our psychological programs; is there a way we can reveal these programs, and can we know how we have them? For example, in your post you assert 3 reasons for the silence 'we' hear. Then when other reasons appear, what do you do next? How does your worldview change?
If Man has power, then the crown is his ability to see his mind and change it at will.