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Aguytrying
#1581 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2016 10:44:47 AM
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Posts: 5,040
Aguytrying wrote:
Haiya! why is bamburi heading to 200.00 while other stocks cant stop finding new lows?

Its truly a blue chip, in the league of EABL, BAT, JUBILEE. coz those are other blue chips not feeling the pinch of the bear!


Told you guys. 200 prints. I'm baffled. When I wrote this 3 days ago at 180 I didn't expect it to happen so fast. Why is it happening.

The year has unexpectedly started well for me, Bamburi strong gains for me. KK doing well also.
When I bought these stocks aggressively in 2014 Q4 it's because they were undervalued turn arounds, now the market is normalising their valuations.

My other stock TPSE Serena is the laggard. It is currently where the above 2 were that time. Id advise pple to buy we celebrate together when turn around happens. Terrorist attacks have stopped for over six months. Travel advisories lifted. At 24 this is the best time to buy. I keep picking a few every now and then. 35-40 is all but guaranteed in the next rise
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
hisah
#1582 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2016 11:04:26 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Haiya! why is bamburi heading to 200.00 while other stocks cant stop finding new lows?

Its truly a blue chip, in the league of EABL, BAT, JUBILEE. coz those are other blue chips not feeling the pinch of the bear!


Told you guys. 200 prints. I'm baffled. When I wrote this 3 days ago at 180 I didn't expect it to happen so fast. Why is it happening.

The year has unexpectedly started well for me, Bamburi strong gains for me. KK doing well also.
When I bought these stocks aggressively in 2014 Q4 it's because they were undervalued turn arounds, now the market is normalising their valuations.

My other stock TPSE Serena is the laggard. It is currently where the above 2 were that time. Id advise pple to buy we celebrate together when turn around happens. Terrorist attacks have stopped for over six months. Travel advisories lifted. At 24 this is the best time to buy. I keep picking a few every now and then. 35-40 is all but guaranteed in the next rise

Bamburi has been trending as per my expectation. But still I continue to ignore NSE coz I don't like what I see with the financials! That storm has to pass first before I return. Meanwhile the volatility waves across the global markets are a nice trading play ground. I have a sneaky feeling EU will very soon outlaw short selling when matters euro boil over.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
cnn
#1583 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2016 11:25:05 AM
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Joined: 6/17/2009
Posts: 1,619
Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Haiya! why is bamburi heading to 200.00 while other stocks cant stop finding new lows?

Its truly a blue chip, in the league of EABL, BAT, JUBILEE. coz those are other blue chips not feeling the pinch of the bear!


Told you guys. 200 prints. I'm baffled. When I wrote this 3 days ago at 180 I didn't expect it to happen so fast. Why is it happening.

The year has unexpectedly started well for me, Bamburi strong gains for me. KK doing well also.
When I bought these stocks aggressively in 2014 Q4 it's because they were undervalued turn arounds, now the market is normalising their valuations.

My other stock TPSE Serena is the laggard. It is currently where the above 2 were that time. Id advise pple to buy we celebrate together when turn around happens. Terrorist attacks have stopped for over six months. Travel advisories lifted. At 24 this is the best time to buy. I keep picking a few every now and then. 35-40 is all but guaranteed in the next rise

After the half year numbers this one was not to be missed.Lets see how far the market takes it.
VituVingiSana
#1584 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2016 1:10:43 PM
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Location: Nairobi
@Aguy - I like TPS. Bought some at 36. I should pick some more up. Solid management. Nice P/B. If they were to sell it as a going concern, they could easily find buyers. Lots of re-development potential for Nairobi Serena.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#1585 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2016 2:08:33 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
hisah wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Haiya! why is bamburi heading to 200.00 while other stocks cant stop finding new lows?

Its truly a blue chip, in the league of EABL, BAT, JUBILEE. coz those are other blue chips not feeling the pinch of the bear!


Told you guys. 200 prints. I'm baffled. When I wrote this 3 days ago at 180 I didn't expect it to happen so fast. Why is it happening.

The year has unexpectedly started well for me, Bamburi strong gains for me. KK doing well also.
When I bought these stocks aggressively in 2014 Q4 it's because they were undervalued turn arounds, now the market is normalising their valuations.

My other stock TPSE Serena is the laggard. It is currently where the above 2 were that time. Id advise pple to buy we celebrate together when turn around happens. Terrorist attacks have stopped for over six months. Travel advisories lifted. At 24 this is the best time to buy. I keep picking a few every now and then. 35-40 is all but guaranteed in the next rise

Bamburi has been trending as per my expectation. But still I continue to ignore NSE coz I don't like what I see with the financials! That storm has to pass first before I return. Meanwhile the volatility waves across the global markets are a nice trading play ground. I have a sneaky feeling EU will very soon outlaw short selling when matters euro boil over.


Some of these rallies can make one forget were in a bear market. I haven't forgotten this, still hunting for bargains
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#1586 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2016 2:11:47 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Aguy - I like TPS. Bought some at 36. I should pick some more up. Solid management. Nice P/B. If they were to sell it as a going concern, they could easily find buyers. Lots of re-development potential for Nairobi Serena.


My buy price is also very high coz I started a long time ago. I want to take advantage of the depressed price at normal strength, eps is 3-4. Right now eps is bad due to poor results but I expect this to change. As you said good management the industry is a problem but I'm betting it will get better.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
sparkly
#1587 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2016 2:25:04 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Aguy - I like TPS. Bought some at 36. I should pick some more up. Solid management. Nice P/B. If they were to sell it as a going concern, they could easily find buyers. Lots of re-development potential for Nairobi Serena.


My buy price is also very high coz I started a long time ago. I want to take advantage of the depressed price at normal strength, eps is 3-4. Right now eps is bad due to poor results but I expect this to change. As you said good management the industry is a problem but I'm betting it will get better.


Got some this year at 24-25.50. My average buy is now 28.60. TPS is 16% of my portfolio but will be adding some soon to make it 20%.

Kengen, Kenya Re, Equity and KK also doing well in my portfolio.

The other laggard is CFC Stanbic which i failed to dispose at 130-140.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#1588 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2016 6:33:18 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,129
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Aguy - I like TPS. Bought some at 36. I should pick some more up. Solid management. Nice P/B. If they were to sell it as a going concern, they could easily find buyers. Lots of re-development potential for Nairobi Serena.


My buy price is also very high coz I started a long time ago. I want to take advantage of the depressed price at normal strength, eps is 3-4. Right now eps is bad due to poor results but I expect this to change. As you said good management the industry is a problem but I'm betting it will get better.


Got some this year at 24-25.50. My average buy is now 28.60. TPS is 16% of my portfolio but will be adding some soon to make it 20%.

Kengen, Kenya Re, Equity and KK also doing well in my portfolio.

The other laggard is CFC Stanbic which i failed to dispose at 130-140.

TPS failed to expand in Nairobi e.g. Westlands where Sankara/Kempinski dominate & Upper Hill with Crowne Plaza. Many people do not want to stay in or near 'town' nor hold events at Serena when more convenient options are available in Upper Hill and Westlands.

A Serena Westlands and Serena Upper Hill (or Hurlingham) would have helped consolidate their grip.

Another overlooked segment is a "Serena Lite" which would cater for those who want cheaper but quality accommodation. Look at Fairview with its full service main hotel and (limited service) City Lodge.

And despite the obvious demand it has no Airport Hotel like Panari, Eka, Ole Sereni, etc.

Such a strategy helps Serena spread its Back Office, Reservations & Fixed Cost expenses across more rooms. Plus these properties can act as training schools for the premium brands [or the other way round].

That said, I like that Serena has kept expenses/debt in check when times were tough. A judicious expansion strategy helps with the slow but sure approach when quality needs to be maintained.

KQ grew too fast. Took on too much debt. Disaster.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mnandii
#1589 Posted : Saturday, February 27, 2016 8:24:44 AM
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mlennyma
#1590 Posted : Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:14:49 AM
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The graph tilting slowly towards equities attractiveness. ...


The weighted average yield on Kenya's 91-day Treasury
bills fell to 9.316 percent at Thursday's auction from 9.938 percent last week, the
central bank said.
The bank received bids worth a total of 11 billion shillings ($108.16 million). It had
offered 4 billion shillings worth and accepted 8.3 billion shillings of the offers. ($1 =
101.7000 Kenyan shillings) (Reporting by Drazen Jorgic, editing by Larry King)
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Pesa Nane
#1591 Posted : Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:12:34 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

TPS failed to expand in Nairobi e.g. Westlands where Sankara/Kempinski dominate & Upper Hill with Crowne Plaza. Many people do not want to stay in or near 'town' nor hold events at Serena when more convenient options are available in Upper Hill and Westlands.

A Serena Westlands and Serena Upper Hill (or Hurlingham) would have helped consolidate their grip.

Another overlooked segment is a "Serena Lite" which would cater for those who want cheaper but quality accommodation. Look at Fairview with its full service main hotel and (limited service) City Lodge.


And despite the obvious demand it has no Airport Hotel like Panari, Eka, Ole Sereni, etc.

Such a strategy helps Serena spread its Back Office, Reservations & Fixed Cost expenses across more rooms. Plus these properties can act as training schools for the premium brands [or the other way round].

That said, I like that Serena has kept expenses/debt in check when times were tough. A judicious expansion strategy helps with the slow but sure approach when quality needs to be maintained.

KQ grew too fast. Took on too much debt. Disaster.

"Serena Lite" missed opportunities
1. Expanded presence = expanded BRAND recognition
2. Act as feeders to the full service Serena by recommending whenever they are fully booked
3. Act as training / resource centres = Quality Assurance
4. Risk spread (Geographically and market segment)
5. Loyalty programme (fake upgrades to loyal customers)
6. Equipment and furniture hand-me-down
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Spikes
#1592 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2016 11:35:23 PM
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Location: Mombasa
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

TPS failed to expand in Nairobi e.g. Westlands where Sankara/Kempinski dominate & Upper Hill with Crowne Plaza. Many people do not want to stay in or near 'town' nor hold events at Serena when more convenient options are available in Upper Hill and Westlands.

A Serena Westlands and Serena Upper Hill (or Hurlingham) would have helped consolidate their grip.

Another overlooked segment is a "Serena Lite" which would cater for those who want cheaper but quality accommodation. Look at Fairview with its full service main hotel and (limited service) City Lodge.


And despite the obvious demand it has no Airport Hotel like Panari, Eka, Ole Sereni, etc.

Such a strategy helps Serena spread its Back Office, Reservations & Fixed Cost expenses across more rooms. Plus these properties can act as training schools for the premium brands [or the other way round].

That said, I like that Serena has kept expenses/debt in check when times were tough. A judicious expansion strategy helps with the slow but sure approach when quality needs to be maintained.

KQ grew too fast. Took on too much debt. Disaster.

"Serena Lite" missed opportunities
1. Expanded presence = expanded BRAND recognition
2. Act as feeders to the full service Serena by recommending whenever they are fully booked
3. Act as training / resource centres = Quality Assurance
4. Risk spread (Geographically and market segment)
5. Loyalty programme (fake upgrades to loyal customers)
6. Equipment and furniture hand-me-down


The greatest tragedy for NSE investor, the real morale killer are sentiments.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
hisah
#1593 Posted : Monday, February 29, 2016 5:09:53 PM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
Bill proposes to reduce interest rates to promote business

Quote:
Kenyan banks will cut interest rates by almost half if a Bill before Parliament becomes law, a step that will promote entrepreneurship.

According to the Bill, banks will charge at most four per cent of the base rate set by the Central Bank of Kenya. Some banks currently charge as much as 25 per cent interest.

The Banking (amendment) Bill seeks to set a limit to what banks charge borrowers although the Central Bank has warned against such a move.

The lawmaker said the proposed law had been well received by colleagues and he expected it to be passed and signed into law.

The CBK is opposed to the capping of lending rates, saying they should be left to market dynamics. CBK Governor Patrick Njoroge recently told NTV any attempt to cap interest rates was against global practice.


KE is playing Russian roulette here... Clueless people making laws that will definitely mess with the flow of capital.

This banking storm will be a wild ride. It'll break the market badly!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
investorinpple
#1594 Posted : Monday, February 29, 2016 6:00:07 PM
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Posts: 8
hisah wrote:
Bill proposes to reduce interest rates to promote business

Quote:
Kenyan banks will cut interest rates by almost half if a Bill before Parliament becomes law, a step that will promote entrepreneurship.

According to the Bill, banks will charge at most four per cent of the base rate set by the Central Bank of Kenya. Some banks currently charge as much as 25 per cent interest.

The Banking (amendment) Bill seeks to set a limit to what banks charge borrowers although the Central Bank has warned against such a move.

The lawmaker said the proposed law had been well received by colleagues and he expected it to be passed and signed into law.

The CBK is opposed to the capping of lending rates, saying they should be left to market dynamics. CBK Governor Patrick Njoroge recently told NTV any attempt to cap interest rates was against global practice.


KE is playing Russian roulette here... Clueless people making laws that will definitely mess with the flow of capital.

This banking storm will be a wild ride. It'll break the market badly!


I support the bill! Finally capital will flow to those who need it most, thus spur rapid economic growth!
murchr
#1595 Posted : Monday, February 29, 2016 6:19:38 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
hisah wrote:
Bill proposes to reduce interest rates to promote business

Quote:
Kenyan banks will cut interest rates by almost half if a Bill before Parliament becomes law, a step that will promote entrepreneurship.

According to the Bill, banks will charge at most four per cent of the base rate set by the Central Bank of Kenya. Some banks currently charge as much as 25 per cent interest.

The Banking (amendment) Bill seeks to set a limit to what banks charge borrowers although the Central Bank has warned against such a move.

The lawmaker said the proposed law had been well received by colleagues and he expected it to be passed and signed into law.

The CBK is opposed to the capping of lending rates, saying they should be left to market dynamics. CBK Governor Patrick Njoroge recently told NTV any attempt to cap interest rates was against global practice.


KE is playing Russian roulette here... Clueless people making laws that will definitely mess with the flow of capital.

This banking storm will be a wild ride. It'll break the market badly!


Very dangerous why not let the market determine that?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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lochaz-index
#1596 Posted : Monday, February 29, 2016 6:48:53 PM
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Joined: 9/18/2014
Posts: 1,127
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
Bill proposes to reduce interest rates to promote business

Quote:
Kenyan banks will cut interest rates by almost half if a Bill before Parliament becomes law, a step that will promote entrepreneurship.

According to the Bill, banks will charge at most four per cent of the base rate set by the Central Bank of Kenya. Some banks currently charge as much as 25 per cent interest.

The Banking (amendment) Bill seeks to set a limit to what banks charge borrowers although the Central Bank has warned against such a move.

The lawmaker said the proposed law had been well received by colleagues and he expected it to be passed and signed into law.

The CBK is opposed to the capping of lending rates, saying they should be left to market dynamics. CBK Governor Patrick Njoroge recently told NTV any attempt to cap interest rates was against global practice.


KE is playing Russian roulette here... Clueless people making laws that will definitely mess with the flow of capital.

This banking storm will be a wild ride. It'll break the market badly!


Very dangerous why not let the market determine that?

Not good. As distasteful as high interest rates are, this is the wrong way to rectify the situation. No one can strong arm the market...lawmakers are about to find out. KE economic environment is definitely not on the mend with such shenanigans flying around.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
hisah
#1597 Posted : Tuesday, March 01, 2016 12:46:08 AM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
investorinpple wrote:
hisah wrote:
Bill proposes to reduce interest rates to promote business

Quote:
Kenyan banks will cut interest rates by almost half if a Bill before Parliament becomes law, a step that will promote entrepreneurship.

According to the Bill, banks will charge at most four per cent of the base rate set by the Central Bank of Kenya. Some banks currently charge as much as 25 per cent interest.

The Banking (amendment) Bill seeks to set a limit to what banks charge borrowers although the Central Bank has warned against such a move.

The lawmaker said the proposed law had been well received by colleagues and he expected it to be passed and signed into law.

The CBK is opposed to the capping of lending rates, saying they should be left to market dynamics. CBK Governor Patrick Njoroge recently told NTV any attempt to cap interest rates was against global practice.


KE is playing Russian roulette here... Clueless people making laws that will definitely mess with the flow of capital.

This banking storm will be a wild ride. It'll break the market badly!


I support the bill! Finally capital will flow to those who need it most, thus spur rapid economic growth!

Ever heard of the law of unintended consequences?

Does KE have cheap long term funding sources that permits lenders to set cheaper lending rates? Why hasn't KE govt floated a 20 or 30 year bond? Can the market buy them if floated? Why does the NSE have few companies listed?

Capital has never been shackled by laws. It always floats towards the least restricted zones. This law needs to first address why capital is expensive. Solve that puzzle and you don't need restrictive laws, which just add more problems. Trying to manipulate business cycles through populist laws always leads to capital panic events that cause unitended economic recessions.

Fuel prices controls are a good example. Credit will definitely become more expensive than what the law intends.

Good luck!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
VituVingiSana
#1598 Posted : Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:23:27 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,129
Location: Nairobi
hisah wrote:
investorinpple wrote:
hisah wrote:
Bill proposes to reduce interest rates to promote business

Quote:
Kenyan banks will cut interest rates by almost half if a Bill before Parliament becomes law, a step that will promote entrepreneurship.

According to the Bill, banks will charge at most four per cent of the base rate set by the Central Bank of Kenya. Some banks currently charge as much as 25 per cent interest.

The Banking (amendment) Bill seeks to set a limit to what banks charge borrowers although the Central Bank has warned against such a move.

The lawmaker said the proposed law had been well received by colleagues and he expected it to be passed and signed into law.

The CBK is opposed to the capping of lending rates, saying they should be left to market dynamics. CBK Governor Patrick Njoroge recently told NTV any attempt to cap interest rates was against global practice.


KE is playing Russian roulette here... Clueless people making laws that will definitely mess with the flow of capital.

This banking storm will be a wild ride. It'll break the market badly!


I support the bill! Finally capital will flow to those who need it most, thus spur rapid economic growth!

Ever heard of the law of unintended consequences?

Does KE have cheap long term funding sources that permits lenders to set cheaper lending rates? Why hasn't KE govt floated a 20 or 30 year bond? Can the market buy them if floated? Why does the NSE have few companies listed?

Capital has never been shackled by laws. It always floats towards the least restricted zones. This law needs to first address why capital is expensive. Solve that puzzle and you don't need restrictive laws, which just add more problems. Trying to manipulate business cycles through populist laws always leads to capital panic events that cause unitended economic recessions.

Fuel prices controls are a good example. Credit will definitely become more expensive than what the law intends.

Good luck!

Credit will become cheaper for a few. The rest will have to see loan sharks.

If 10-year T-Bonds (guaranteed by GoK) yield 14.5% then why would a bank lend to @VVS [who can die, has no taxing power, can't legally print money, can be sued] at 15% with all the risk it entails?

GoK needs to:
1. Cut spending. Especially on frivolous items and projects. PPPs work better for economic projects.
2. Borrow less. Don't crowd out the private sector. Why are farmers competing with GoK? [A farmer who borrows to grow tea is competing with GoK funding Galana]
3. Get out of the business of business.
4. Facilitate business by easing registration, licensing and access to resources.
5. Reduce and standardize taxes. Make Tax Law clear and not subject to arbitrary rules/enforcement by KRA.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#1599 Posted : Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:23:10 AM
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Joined: 7/21/2010
Posts: 6,184
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
investorinpple wrote:
hisah wrote:
Bill proposes to reduce interest rates to promote business

Quote:
Kenyan banks will cut interest rates by almost half if a Bill before Parliament becomes law, a step that will promote entrepreneurship.

According to the Bill, banks will charge at most four per cent of the base rate set by the Central Bank of Kenya. Some banks currently charge as much as 25 per cent interest.

The Banking (amendment) Bill seeks to set a limit to what banks charge borrowers although the Central Bank has warned against such a move.

The lawmaker said the proposed law had been well received by colleagues and he expected it to be passed and signed into law.

The CBK is opposed to the capping of lending rates, saying they should be left to market dynamics. CBK Governor Patrick Njoroge recently told NTV any attempt to cap interest rates was against global practice.


KE is playing Russian roulette here... Clueless people making laws that will definitely mess with the flow of capital.

This banking storm will be a wild ride. It'll break the market badly!


I support the bill! Finally capital will flow to those who need it most, thus spur rapid economic growth!

Ever heard of the law of unintended consequences?

Does KE have cheap long term funding sources that permits lenders to set cheaper lending rates? Why hasn't KE govt floated a 20 or 30 year bond? Can the market buy them if floated? Why does the NSE have few companies listed?

Capital has never been shackled by laws. It always floats towards the least restricted zones. This law needs to first address why capital is expensive. Solve that puzzle and you don't need restrictive laws, which just add more problems. Trying to manipulate business cycles through populist laws always leads to capital panic events that cause unitended economic recessions.

Fuel prices controls are a good example. Credit will definitely become more expensive than what the law intends.

Good luck!

Credit will become cheaper for a few. The rest will have to see loan sharks.

If 10-year T-Bonds (guaranteed by GoK) yield 14.5% then why would a bank lend to @VVS [who can die, has no taxing power, can't legally print money, can be sued] at 15% with all the risk it entails?

GoK needs to:
1. Cut spending. Especially on frivolous items and projects. PPPs work better for economic projects.
2. Borrow less. Don't crowd out the private sector. Why are farmers competing with GoK? [A farmer who borrows to grow tea is competing with GoK funding Galana]
3. Get out of the business of business.
4. Facilitate business by easing registration, licensing and access to resources.
5. Reduce and standardize taxes. Make Tax Law clear and not subject to arbitrary rules/enforcement by KRA.

should it happen the collapse of small banks is where the effects will start, i know rao can sign this kind of law but uhuru can't
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#1600 Posted : Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:49:16 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,129
Location: Nairobi
mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
investorinpple wrote:
hisah wrote:
Bill proposes to reduce interest rates to promote business

Quote:
Kenyan banks will cut interest rates by almost half if a Bill before Parliament becomes law, a step that will promote entrepreneurship.

According to the Bill, banks will charge at most four per cent of the base rate set by the Central Bank of Kenya. Some banks currently charge as much as 25 per cent interest.

The Banking (amendment) Bill seeks to set a limit to what banks charge borrowers although the Central Bank has warned against such a move.

The lawmaker said the proposed law had been well received by colleagues and he expected it to be passed and signed into law.

The CBK is opposed to the capping of lending rates, saying they should be left to market dynamics. CBK Governor Patrick Njoroge recently told NTV any attempt to cap interest rates was against global practice.


KE is playing Russian roulette here... Clueless people making laws that will definitely mess with the flow of capital.

This banking storm will be a wild ride. It'll break the market badly!


I support the bill! Finally capital will flow to those who need it most, thus spur rapid economic growth!

Ever heard of the law of unintended consequences?

Does KE have cheap long term funding sources that permits lenders to set cheaper lending rates? Why hasn't KE govt floated a 20 or 30 year bond? Can the market buy them if floated? Why does the NSE have few companies listed?

Capital has never been shackled by laws. It always floats towards the least restricted zones. This law needs to first address why capital is expensive. Solve that puzzle and you don't need restrictive laws, which just add more problems. Trying to manipulate business cycles through populist laws always leads to capital panic events that cause unitended economic recessions.

Fuel prices controls are a good example. Credit will definitely become more expensive than what the law intends.

Good luck!

Credit will become cheaper for a few. The rest will have to see loan sharks.

If 10-year T-Bonds (guaranteed by GoK) yield 14.5% then why would a bank lend to @VVS [who can die, has no taxing power, can't legally print money, can be sued] at 15% with all the risk it entails?

GoK needs to:
1. Cut spending. Especially on frivolous items and projects. PPPs work better for economic projects.
2. Borrow less. Don't crowd out the private sector. Why are farmers competing with GoK? [A farmer who borrows to grow tea is competing with GoK funding Galana]
3. Get out of the business of business.
4. Facilitate business by easing registration, licensing and access to resources.
5. Reduce and standardize taxes. Make Tax Law clear and not subject to arbitrary rules/enforcement by KRA.

should it happen the collapse of small banks is where the effects will start, i know rao can sign this kind of law but uhuru can't

No, the small banks will not collapse but the incentive to lend will be diminished. Or banks will jack up fees instead of higher interest rates. So in addition to the KBRR + 5% they will charge heavy commitment fees, transaction charges, correspondence charges, etc.

YES, the banks need to reduce their margins. Kabisa. They also need mechanisms and processes that are equitable to them & customers to deal with defaulters. A defaulter can stymie a bank in court for 5 years or more. Then there are fake Title Deeds and corruption in the courts.

Most of us end up paying (I think) 2-3 % more to cover for defaulters.
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