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#11 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:30:13 PM
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[quote=holycow]Haven't watched the video but the comments are interesting.
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It's ironic that some people are calling this a "Western import" and they quote the bible in the same breath. If I remember correctly, none of our African ancestors were homophobic Christians before the EUROPEAN MISSIONARIES came and handed us the bible and convinced us that it was the TRUE WORD of some deity called God. They didn't even bother to provide a shred of evidence but today we swear by the bible and this deity called God. Christianity is the western import of all western imports.


Christianity is not a western thing; the whites brought us Christianity to us, but they passed on to us what they received.

If today someone from the Abagusii community preaches Christianity to a group in Sudan, will they say it is an Abagusii religion??
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
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mpobiz
#12 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:48:38 PM
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Spikes wrote:
tycho wrote:
We're living in tough times where we've lost sight of 'God' and are clutching at straws.

Humans are now looking up to each other for the deepest satisfaction, but that's a fool's errand. Many think by quoting verses they can fill their despair but that's a delusion.

Who will come with the light of wisdom and love and healing?


You hypocrites! If you say homosexual is a choice and individuals should be free to exercise same sex marriage, absolute lunacy. Is like legalizing stealing, murder and all manners of obnoxious deeds you detest in society.

i totally agree with you. when you see a mad man on the streets with all manner of paraphernalia hanging from his clothing do you stare because its the latest fashion or out of pity for the guy?
when the same mad man is joined by other fellow mad people and form a group where they start considering themselves a hip or a cool group would you wish to join them? i consider this thing to be a psychiatric condition which has a cure. if man can change a woman to a point that a woman grows beards and starts liking other women then i believe that the same drugs can be given to this beasts to change their condition. i wouldnt have a problem if they did their thing in their houses but when they try to influence our youth and children thats where i get pi**d . this thing is like a desease that is slowly eating its way in our world society. yes they are a very small minority but they create an impressoin that they are everywhere in our society. yes we might succeed in banning one video but we all know that in almost all movies and series being wached today have an ellement of this weird behavior. was suprised to see it in our own local production nairobi half life. this is not about change this is making us accept insanity as the norm.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Mike Ock
#13 Posted : Monday, February 29, 2016 12:39:35 AM
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Interesting that the anti gay posts crept up on a Sunday
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tycho
#14 Posted : Monday, February 29, 2016 7:07:31 AM
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Mike Ock wrote:
Interesting that the anti gay posts crept up on a Sunday


Sunday must be a creepy day according to the superstitions of some those who don't subscribe to church religion.
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#15 Posted : Monday, February 29, 2016 8:02:20 AM
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Spikes wrote:
tycho wrote:
We're living in tough times where we've lost sight of 'God' and are clutching at straws.

Humans are now looking up to each other for the deepest satisfaction, but that's a fool's errand. Many think by quoting verses they can fill their despair but that's a delusion.

Who will come with the light of wisdom and love and healing?


You hypocrites! If you say homosexual is a choice and individuals should be free to exercise same sex marriage, absolute lunacy. Is like legalizing stealing, murder and all manners of obnoxious deeds you detest in society.


Arguments used to support lgbts can apply to incestuous relationships but the former is more 'popular' than the latter. Society is a fickle thing to please.
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Jinomoja
#16 Posted : Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:29:26 AM
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Christianity is not a western thing; the whites brought us Christianity to us, but they passed on to us what they received.

If today someone from the Abagusii community preaches Christianity to a group in Sudan, will they say it is an Abagusii religion??



But where did the whites receive it from? From the Jews? From the Early Roman Christians? How does ignoring the origins of Christianity validate your argument that it's not a Western Thing?

Is colonialism the best thing that ever happened to Africa because it brought us Christianity? How about Slavery?

Is Africa such a cursed place that revelation couldn't be handed directly to us? It had to be passed on to us through 3rd parties?
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Anti_Burglar
#17 Posted : Wednesday, March 02, 2016 1:56:50 PM
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Jinomoja wrote:
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Christianity is not a western thing; the whites brought us Christianity to us, but they passed on to us what they received.

If today someone from the Abagusii community preaches Christianity to a group in Sudan, will they say it is an Abagusii religion??



But where did the whites receive it from? From the Jews? From the Early Roman Christians? How does ignoring the origins of Christianity validate your argument that it's not a Western Thing?

Is colonialism the best thing that ever happened to Africa because it brought us Christianity? How about Slavery?

Is Africa such a cursed place that revelation couldn't be handed directly to us? It had to be passed on to us through 3rd parties?


Some Ethiopians got it direct. Perhaps you are implying that is the way Africans ought to have gone.
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Anti_Burglar
#18 Posted : Wednesday, March 02, 2016 2:02:29 PM
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¿ wrote:
Spikes wrote:
tycho wrote:
We're living in tough times where we've lost sight of 'God' and are clutching at straws.

Humans are now looking up to each other for the deepest satisfaction, but that's a fool's errand. Many think by quoting verses they can fill their despair but that's a delusion.

Who will come with the light of wisdom and love and healing?


You hypocrites! If you say homosexual is a choice and individuals should be free to exercise same sex marriage, absolute lunacy. Is like legalizing stealing, murder and all manners of obnoxious deeds you detest in society.


Arguments used to support lgbts can apply to incestuous relationships but the former is more 'popular' than the latter. Society is a fickle thing to please.


It is human nature to propagate their ideas to get new members that is why there is a clash. As heterosexuals are propagating theirs, the homosexuals are also propagating theirs to get new members, hence the clash. There is not enough room for both. Destruction of one is coming!
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tycho
#19 Posted : Wednesday, March 02, 2016 2:24:10 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
Jinomoja wrote:
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Christianity is not a western thing; the whites brought us Christianity to us, but they passed on to us what they received.

If today someone from the Abagusii community preaches Christianity to a group in Sudan, will they say it is an Abagusii religion??



But where did the whites receive it from? From the Jews? From the Early Roman Christians? How does ignoring the origins of Christianity validate your argument that it's not a Western Thing?

Is colonialism the best thing that ever happened to Africa because it brought us Christianity? How about Slavery?

Is Africa such a cursed place that revelation couldn't be handed directly to us? It had to be passed on to us through 3rd parties?


Some Ethiopians got it direct. Perhaps you are implying that is the way Africans ought to have gone.


This issue isn't about Christianity or Christian values. It's about human values and how we can deliberate on them and how we can change them.

But because we can't have a straight (alas) forward conversation, the church and religion are brought out as straw men to apparently, divert attention and ramp up emotion.

Sometimes I think it's a powerful psychological operation driven by a few for purposes beyond what a common person can see. I tend to agree with some conspiracists that it's about complete domination of the masses ...
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, March 02, 2016 4:13:20 PM
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tycho wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Jinomoja wrote:
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Christianity is not a western thing; the whites brought us Christianity to us, but they passed on to us what they received.

If today someone from the Abagusii community preaches Christianity to a group in Sudan, will they say it is an Abagusii religion??



But where did the whites receive it from? From the Jews? From the Early Roman Christians? How does ignoring the origins of Christianity validate your argument that it's not a Western Thing?

Is colonialism the best thing that ever happened to Africa because it brought us Christianity? How about Slavery?

Is Africa such a cursed place that revelation couldn't be handed directly to us? It had to be passed on to us through 3rd parties?


Some Ethiopians got it direct. Perhaps you are implying that is the way Africans ought to have gone.


This issue isn't about Christianity or Christian values. It's about human values and how we can deliberate on them and how we can change them.

But because we can't have a straight (alas) forward conversation, the church and religion are brought out as straw men to apparently, divert attention and ramp up emotion.

Sometimes I think it's a powerful psychological operation driven by a few for purposes beyond what a common person can see. I tend to agree with some conspiracists that it's about complete domination of the masses ...


This issue isn't about human values. It's about values.

Science and psychology are also brought in as straw men but they offer no objective insights to the matter of values. They do make a good appeal to authority.

lol.
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