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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:Just for the record, as far I am concerned (from religious perspective), FGM is permissible BUT not a MUST. If there is any harm in female circumcision then it can even be BANNED (and I support) because it has been proven by scientific and medically proven that the way it is done is harmful to the health of the girl child.
And similarly, the male circumcision is not a MUST but is RECOMMENDED. For the male, there is no scientific and medical harm to male circumcision. All we hear is that oh it is painful, or oh it is risky, or oh it is deforming, or oh it is sexually diminishing, or oh there is no health benefits.
But we know it is hygienic. All those men who are not circumcised smell in the hand after visiting the toilet and forgot to wash their hand after holding a bare "head". You need to borrow leave from Muslims and clean yourself to avoid urine droplets remaining inside the sac and causing irritation and becoming smelly from the body heat. This sometimes leads to infection... I guess those not practicing it are not seeing these "benefits". Try and conduct this test - ask those men who "smell their hands after pissing" to go face the knife! coz it will stop them from smelling themselves then see if the cost benefit assessment will topple things your way. Try this with any other "benefit" and see if they want to lose their fore skin for these benefits! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Just for the record, as far I am concerned (from religious perspective), FGM is permissible BUT not a MUST. If there is any harm in female circumcision then it can even be BANNED (and I support) because it has been proven by scientific and medically proven that the way it is done is harmful to the health of the girl child.
And similarly, the male circumcision is not a MUST but is RECOMMENDED. For the male, there is no scientific and medical harm to male circumcision. All we hear is that oh it is painful, or oh it is risky, or oh it is deforming, or oh it is sexually diminishing, or oh there is no health benefits.
But we know it is hygienic. All those men who are not circumcised smell in the hand after visiting the toilet and forgot to wash their hand after holding a bare "head". You need to borrow leave from Muslims and clean yourself to avoid urine droplets remaining inside the sac and causing irritation and becoming smelly from the body heat. This sometimes leads to infection... I guess those not practicing it are not seeing these "benefits". Try and conduct this test - ask those men who "smell their hands after pissing" to go face the knife! coz it will stop them from smelling themselves then see if the cost benefit assessment will topple things your way. Try this with any other "benefit" and see if they want to lose their fore skin for these benefits! @mavegs, you said they "are not seeing these "benefits"". The problem is how can they see the benefit when they have not tasted it? It is like telling somebody how honey tastes sweet when he has never tasted it. He is already comfortable with his molasses... But one thing for sure is that he knows is that it smells
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Jambo AlphDoti, Please note mathukuma has recently announced his defection from Wazua Christian Union to form Wazua Agnostics Forum. He is therefore not authorised to make any posts, replies or arguments on behalf of the Union. The Union shall not be held responsible...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:Jambo AlphDoti,
Please note mathukuma has recently announced his defection from Wazua Christian Union to form Wazua Agnostics Forum. He is therefore not authorised to make any posts, replies or arguments on behalf of the Union.
The Union shall not be held responsible... Noted. I will disregard any his craft or scheme to masquerade going forward.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:
@mavegs, you said they "are not seeing these "benefits"". The problem is how can they see the benefit when they have not tasted it? It is like telling somebody how honey tastes sweet when he has never tasted it. He is already comfortable with his molasses... But one thing for sure is that he knows is that it smells
the 1st guy who got the snip must have "Seen" the benefits - right? if it's so useful... the benefits would be self manifest @  - wachana na labels! I was not talking as a "christian" but never the less, I can argue as whomever I please. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:
@mavegs, you said they "are not seeing these "benefits"". The problem is how can they see the benefit when they have not tasted it? It is like telling somebody how honey tastes sweet when he has never tasted it. He is already comfortable with his molasses... But one thing for sure is that he knows is that it smells
the 1st guy who got the snip must have "Seen" the benefits - right? if it's so useful... the benefits would be self manifest @ - wachana na labels! I was not talking as a "christian" but never the less, I can argue as whomever I please. @masukums, that's why I gave my kids honey to taste when they were infants. Now being adults, they know how honey tastes and its benefits if you ask them now. So you must cut those boys when young because you know it is beneficial to them. Otherwise, if you let them grow into adulthood with the sac, fear will overcome them. They don't know the taste of honey, just like the one fed mollaces alone ever since born, he thinks nothing more is beneficial.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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kysse wrote:By a show of hands... @kysse, what do you mean? Be specific...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Deliberate infliction of pain and loss of pleasure is a must for society. Sexual pleasure and sexuality is the most powerful motivator of human action, regulating its expression is imperative.
Cut them all. Male or female. Whichever a society has chosen.
BTW, the war against 'FGM' may be having its true reason as an attempt to creating a homogeneous society globally. If it is, then it should be resisted!
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AlphDoti wrote:kysse wrote:By a show of hands... @kysse, what do you mean? Be specific... My hand is down ........ Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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