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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:kayhara wrote:Isn't KQ over-consulting? forensic consultants, revenue and cost consultants, this will turn out to be another scandal. @kayhara theft on several levels occured at KQ and seabury or mckinsey arent specialised in fraud discovery, hence need for deloitte as KQ in itself has no capacity to investigate.. @sparkly im not wealthy, just blessed. :) please note that something grand is in the offing at the airline. GoK hint. Thank me later Deloitte just working on another report to gather dust on the shelves, and to cover-up the kickbacks and real thieves. Ngunze rides to the scene like a gallant knight, ready to save the damsel... Conveniently duping spectators to forget that he was an insider all along and the ear on the ground for some interests. If the something grand is a GOK bailout, be informed that bailout is not free money, most likely dilutive convertible preferential shares. I welcome a bailout regardless.. If bailout is not free money ie one way to discourage corporate corruption and stock price manipulation. Don't expect a rally @obiero has been trumpeting. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:kayhara wrote:Isn't KQ over-consulting? forensic consultants, revenue and cost consultants, this will turn out to be another scandal. @kayhara theft on several levels occured at KQ and seabury or mckinsey arent specialised in fraud discovery, hence need for deloitte as KQ in itself has no capacity to investigate.. @sparkly im not wealthy, just blessed. :) please note that something grand is in the offing at the airline. GoK hint. Thank me later Deloitte just working on another report to gather dust on the shelves, and to cover-up the kickbacks and real thieves. Ngunze rides to the scene like a gallant knight, ready to save the damsel... Conveniently duping spectators to forget that he was an insider all along and the ear on the ground for some interests. If the something grand is a GOK bailout, be informed that bailout is not free money, most likely dilutive convertible preferential shares. How does one go about diluting negative equity? Kq is a farce. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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lochaz-index wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:kayhara wrote:Isn't KQ over-consulting? forensic consultants, revenue and cost consultants, this will turn out to be another scandal. @kayhara theft on several levels occured at KQ and seabury or mckinsey arent specialised in fraud discovery, hence need for deloitte as KQ in itself has no capacity to investigate.. @sparkly im not wealthy, just blessed. :) please note that something grand is in the offing at the airline. GoK hint. Thank me later Deloitte just working on another report to gather dust on the shelves, and to cover-up the kickbacks and real thieves. Ngunze rides to the scene like a gallant knight, ready to save the damsel... Conveniently duping spectators to forget that he was an insider all along and the ear on the ground for some interests. If the something grand is a GOK bailout, be informed that bailout is not free money, most likely dilutive convertible preferential shares. How does one go about diluting negative equity? Kq is a farce. treasures of goblins, turning into the real wacky charcoals. if you are from grace to grass and crawling do not ask why is there so much dust in your mouth, just know that is what is eaten once you are about to kiss the ground. a farce would be far better than KQ if there could another way to state it. Pole @obiero. G.O.K is looking for campaign money and busy devising campaign strategies and tactics not bailing out seasoned daylight thuggeri @kq.  ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,249 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:lochaz-index wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:kayhara wrote:Isn't KQ over-consulting? forensic consultants, revenue and cost consultants, this will turn out to be another scandal. @kayhara theft on several levels occured at KQ and seabury or mckinsey arent specialised in fraud discovery, hence need for deloitte as KQ in itself has no capacity to investigate.. @sparkly im not wealthy, just blessed. :) please note that something grand is in the offing at the airline. GoK hint. Thank me later Deloitte just working on another report to gather dust on the shelves, and to cover-up the kickbacks and real thieves. Ngunze rides to the scene like a gallant knight, ready to save the damsel... Conveniently duping spectators to forget that he was an insider all along and the ear on the ground for some interests. If the something grand is a GOK bailout, be informed that bailout is not free money, most likely dilutive convertible preferential shares. How does one go about diluting negative equity? Kq is a farce. treasures of goblins, turning into the real wacky charcoals. if you are from grace to grass and crawling do not ask why is there so much dust in your mouth, just know that is what is eaten once you are about to kiss the ground. a farce would be far better than KQ if there could another way to state it. Pole @obiero. G.O.K is looking for campaign money and busy devising campaign strategies and tactics not bailing out seasoned daylight thuggeri @kq. Lol.. U remind me of whispero.. Good with the words
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/11/2015 Posts: 21 Location: Nakuru
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kayhara wrote:Isn't KQ over-consulting? forensic consultants, revenue and cost consultants, this will turn out to be another scandal. Hata mimi I was thinking the same thing. from McKinsey to Deloitte.... let us hope the money is being put to good use. The struggle continues
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Anbu wrote:kayhara wrote:Isn't KQ over-consulting? forensic consultants, revenue and cost consultants, this will turn out to be another scandal. Hata mimi I was thinking the same thing. from McKinsey to Deloitte.... let us hope the money is being put to good use. did MCkinsey charge coop 1b for consulation fees during the process.now I expect KQ to be bigger than that now that kq is in deep mess .this will ultimately eat into their PBT and PAT making it worse
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:lochaz-index wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:kayhara wrote:Isn't KQ over-consulting? forensic consultants, revenue and cost consultants, this will turn out to be another scandal. @kayhara theft on several levels occured at KQ and seabury or mckinsey arent specialised in fraud discovery, hence need for deloitte as KQ in itself has no capacity to investigate.. @sparkly im not wealthy, just blessed. :) please note that something grand is in the offing at the airline. GoK hint. Thank me later Deloitte just working on another report to gather dust on the shelves, and to cover-up the kickbacks and real thieves. Ngunze rides to the scene like a gallant knight, ready to save the damsel... Conveniently duping spectators to forget that he was an insider all along and the ear on the ground for some interests. If the something grand is a GOK bailout, be informed that bailout is not free money, most likely dilutive convertible preferential shares. How does one go about diluting negative equity? Kq is a farce. treasures of goblins, turning into the real wacky charcoals. if you are from grace to grass and crawling do not ask why is there so much dust in your mouth, just know that is what is eaten once you are about to kiss the ground. a farce would be far better than KQ if there could another way to state it. Pole @obiero. G.O.K is looking for campaign money and busy devising campaign strategies and tactics not bailing out seasoned daylight thuggeri @kq. Lol.. U remind me of whispero.. Good with the words Look and see. Open your eyes and see the light, but plz you do not have to sniff the ambience to feel the skunky smell in hear. But of coarse, yes, you can see the agony and twisted noses of the passengers of this bus or alightees like @vvs to know that it stinks hell like a skunk. Peace. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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Impunity wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:Mid and top level managers have agreed to stop their contributions to the KQ provident fund...This will release some 450m plus for the year...discussion with other employees still ongoing...duty allowance also stopped... Hold on. Explain this to me. If KQ employees stop their contributions [taken from salaries paid] to the Provident Fund how does that help KQ? If I make 100,000 [take home after taxes/NHIF/NSSF] & contribute 5,000 to the Provident Fund [reducing my take home to 95,000] that's my contribution. How is KQ affected? Employers have a matching component, so if employees agree to drop their contrubution then the employer saves.. Wewe kwani hujawai kuwa employee?? No. For KQ its 10% - 10% so the whole amount will be held by the airline instead of going to the PF... Please explain further, I did not understand it. Sarcasm nayo. Sarcasm myxxxx. This is true conspiracy to systematically stiffle the owners of this deadhorse and wash wash them clean. Everyother keen dude knows this hoarse is stifled by high wage,creditors(may be restructiuring pay periods with guranteed supplies at a higher cost etc etc,,will the deductions as they are beneficts to employee not fall due one day? My friend thinking is not easy, what of see things as they are ment to be, harder)and all that is gotten at a premium. Now they have seen the sense that they have milked hard enough and the cow is on its death bed. So what do they decide to do, keep the cow well in the ICU to skin it canibalise it while it still kicks. Collusion between the gagged manager and the gagger the employee. This cow must go since nobody is ready to take the bold step and put a torch on the head of the real monster inside here. Crocodile tears my fellow wazuans tu. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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muandiwambeu wrote:Impunity wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:Mid and top level managers have agreed to stop their contributions to the KQ provident fund...This will release some 450m plus for the year...discussion with other employees still ongoing...duty allowance also stopped... Hold on. Explain this to me. If KQ employees stop their contributions [taken from salaries paid] to the Provident Fund how does that help KQ? If I make 100,000 [take home after taxes/NHIF/NSSF] & contribute 5,000 to the Provident Fund [reducing my take home to 95,000] that's my contribution. How is KQ affected? Employers have a matching component, so if employees agree to drop their contrubution then the employer saves.. Wewe kwani hujawai kuwa employee?? No. For KQ its 10% - 10% so the whole amount will be held by the airline instead of going to the PF... Please explain further, I did not understand it. Sarcasm nayo. Sarcasm myxxxx. This is true conspiracy to systematically stiffle the owners of this deadhorse and wash wash them clean. Everyother keen dude knows this hoarse is stifled by high wage,creditors(may be restructiuring pay periods with guranteed supplies at a higher cost etc etc,,will the deductions as they are beneficts to employee not fall due one day? My friend thinking is not easy, what of see things as they are ment to be, harder)and all that is gotten at a premium. Now they have seen the sense that they have milked hard enough and the cow is on its death bed. So what do they decide to do, keep the cow well in the ICU to skin it canibalise it while it still kicks. Collusion between the gagged manager and the gagger the employee. This cow must go since nobody is ready to take the bold step and put a torch on the head of the real monster inside here. Crocodile tears my fellow wazuans tu. @Maka, that is not legal ..... Cannot happen under RBA rules, right? Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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muandiwambeu wrote:Impunity wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:Mid and top level managers have agreed to stop their contributions to the KQ provident fund...This will release some 450m plus for the year...discussion with other employees still ongoing...duty allowance also stopped... Hold on. Explain this to me. If KQ employees stop their contributions [taken from salaries paid] to the Provident Fund how does that help KQ? If I make 100,000 [take home after taxes/NHIF/NSSF] & contribute 5,000 to the Provident Fund [reducing my take home to 95,000] that's my contribution. How is KQ affected? Employers have a matching component, so if employees agree to drop their contrubution then the employer saves.. Wewe kwani hujawai kuwa employee?? No. For KQ its 10% - 10% so the whole amount will be held by the airline instead of going to the PF... Please explain further, I did not understand it. Sarcasm nayo. Sarcasm myxxxx. This is true conspiracy to systematically stiffle the owners of this deadhorse and wash wash them clean. Everyother keen dude knows this hoarse is stifled by high wage,creditors(may be restructiuring pay periods with guranteed supplies at a higher cost etc etc,,will the deductions as they are beneficts to employee not fall due one day? My friend thinking is not easy, what of see things as they are ment to be, harder)and all that is gotten at a premium. Now they have seen the sense that they have milked hard enough and the cow is on its death bed. So what do they decide to do, keep the cow well in the ICU to skin it canibalise it while it still kicks. Collusion between the gagged manager and the gagger the employee. This cow must go since nobody is ready to take the bold step and put a torch on the head of the real monster inside here. Crocodile tears my fellow wazuans tu. @Maka I thought theirs is a defined contribution scheme. Are you sure it is a provident fund?
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