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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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the first 10 shareholders highly determine the direction a troubled company may take,here I see individuals signalling very little hope given that there could be a blame game on where this money was used "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Assuming correct accounting treatment, the shareholders fund should not be used as an indicator of ability to repay the bond. That's because the bond liability should have been amortised from year 5 to maturity. Default should therefore be pegged on the companies cash flow position. But as I said above, assuming they followed correct accounting treatment, did they? "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/8/2015 Posts: 166
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I was saved from the jaws of this loss lion. I remember passing one of the stock brokers and saw a notice...Over the counter @50, I almost bought- given the who is who in the shareholders list!! My maker must have saved me this agony.
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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Risasi Sufuri wrote:I was saved from the jaws of this loss lion. I remember passing one of the stock brokers and saw a notice...Over the counter @50, I almost bought- given the who is who in the shareholders list!! My maker must have saved me this agony. You have killed me Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/23/2011 Posts: 15
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The tale sounds like another ponzi scheme! Sophisticated investors ignore the noise and concentrate on the intrinsic value of an asset
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/11/2006 Posts: 884
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Sell TransCentury, buy Fahari I-Reit for long“Invest in yourself. Your career is the engine of your wealth.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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The media is deadly, jump from one sinking ship and jump to the next one, which is about to start sinking. My target for fahari I reit is between 10- 5 bob. asnyone wanting you to buy at 20.00 doesnt have your best interests at heart The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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At worst keep the money in the bank
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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Aguytrying wrote:The media is deadly, jump from one sinking ship and jump to the next one, which is about to start sinking. My target for fahari I reit is between 10- 5 bob. asnyone wanting you to buy at 20.00 doesnt have your best interests at heart Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Mainstream media doing what they do best. Rope in poor wanjiku. As Redd Foxx always said " don't do it don't do it".wait for it at 10 bob after they have a clear path and history. For now is a black hole that Steve Hawkins keeps talking about.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Tomorrow it might be sell ADSS n buy KQ.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 257
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whiteowl wrote:Tomorrow it might be sell ADSS n buy KQ. The advise on offer here is quite telling...why would one sell transcentury to buy Fahari? If one was to sell transcentury there are far much better buying options.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/7/2014 Posts: 40
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What's the upside in Fahari-I - Reit? Income growth is capped, only comes from rent escalation for properties owned by the REIT, no?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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snipermnoma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Tomorrow it might be sell ADSS n buy KQ. The advise on offer here is quite telling...why would one sell transcentury to buy Fahari? If one was to sell transcentury there are far much better buying options. Gazeti ya kufunga nyama. The Journalist and the investment analyst need to up their game. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Aguytrying wrote:The media is deadly, jump from one sinking ship and jump to the next one, which is about to start sinking. My target for fahari I reit is between 10- 5 bob. asnyone wanting you to buy at 20.00 doesnt have your best interests at heart African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 257
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sparkly wrote:snipermnoma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Tomorrow it might be sell ADSS n buy KQ. The advise on offer here is quite telling...why would one sell transcentury to buy Fahari? If one was to sell transcentury there are far much better buying options. Gazeti ya kufunga nyama. The Journalist and the investment analyst need to up their game. Here is another article which by virtue of breaking down the numbers paints a different picture about Fahari. http://www.businessdaily...8/-/81olwj/-/index.html
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Negative sentiment to blame for TransCentury stock price fallQuote:How else do you explain the fact that despite repeated assurances by the company’s chairman, Mr Zeph Mbugua, that TransCentury will pay bond holders on the due date, all have fallen on deaf years. What a funny piece of article TCL PR machine should be auctioned. Their stage management is hopeless. Until they put it in writing, which by the way CMA has ordered them to do so, they should stop the media PR. Meanwhile the stock continues to print all time lows. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/23/2015 Posts: 35
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hisah wrote:Negative sentiment to blame for TransCentury stock price fallQuote:How else do you explain the fact that despite repeated assurances by the company’s chairman, Mr Zeph Mbugua, that TransCentury will pay bond holders on the due date, all have fallen on deaf years. What a funny piece of article TCL PR machine should be auctioned. Their stage management is hopeless. Until they put it in writing, which by the way CMA has ordered them to do so, they should stop the media PR. Meanwhile the stock continues to print all time lows. The logic of the article also defeated me. Is the ship sinking because of failing to plug the 8bn hole in its side or because the passengers 'lack confidence' that it will float? Even worse, the previous captain (Gachao Kiuna) was last seen swimming away for dear life. How can shareholders (with less information at their disposal) be expected to be more confident than management? I hope Tran can pay its debts on time, but as someone once said: hope is not an investment strategy. Even the birds can testify...but you forget the chief has his son as the judge and his son-in-law as interpreter- Oumar Ba
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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hisah wrote:Negative sentiment to blame for TransCentury stock price fallQuote:How else do you explain the fact that despite repeated assurances by the company’s chairman, Mr Zeph Mbugua, that TransCentury will pay bond holders on the due date, all have fallen on deaf years. What a funny piece of article TCL PR machine should be auctioned. Their stage management is hopeless. Until they put it in writing, which by the way CMA has ordered them to do so, they should stop the media PR. Meanwhile the stock continues to print all time lows. What a load of BS in that article. If TCL can pay it off then say so... Me thinks Jaindi was given a brown envelope. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 257
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Here is another hopeful article: http://www.businessdaily...0/-/8c78yz/-/index.html
Message here is: The future is bright so do not worry of the current gloom!
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