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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
hisah
#1501 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 3:47:53 PM
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Mpesa bank has become volatile of late...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#1502 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 4:36:22 PM
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Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mlennyma
#1503 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 4:49:47 PM
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hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Spikes
#1504 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 5:11:13 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
mlennyma
#1505 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 5:19:43 PM
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Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Spikes
#1506 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 5:31:08 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?


Look at manufacturing stocks! They have shown resilience in a bear market since January 2016.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
mnandii
#1507 Posted : Saturday, February 06, 2016 8:45:09 AM
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Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?


Look at manufacturing stocks! They have shown resilience in a bear market since January 2016.


Don't rely on hope. NSE 20 Share Index is correcting below 4040 (i.e. it is rising for now but will not reach 4040). The next leg down is going to drown most wazuans (even some gurus here Sad ).

The bear that I predicted back one year ago when the NSE Index was still above 5300 is taking its toll. Yet some people see that as an opportunity to buy!!!!
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#1508 Posted : Saturday, February 06, 2016 8:51:14 AM
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snipermnoma wrote:
mnandii wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
mnandii wrote:
NSE 20 SHARE INDEX

SHORT TERM UPDATE



Unless 4040 level is broken upward, my outlook remains bearish.

Am looking for a third wave drop i.e wave iii whose targets are as below:


Wave i = ( 4257.27 - 3829.91 ) = 427.36

Typically third waves are 161.8 or 261.8% of first waves. Thus:

Wave iii end = {4040.75 - 1.618 X 427.36} = 3349.28

OR Wave iii end= {4040.75 - 2.618 X 427.36} = 2921.92


@mnandii I'm still an amateur wave counter so I'm wondering how to count green wave 3. My assumptions are as follows:

I assume green wave 3 comprises of five blue/cyan waves (so far we have [i] and [ii]).

I assume blue/cyan [iii] is composed of five red waves (so far we have i and ii).

Green wave 5 will be the end of black wave (C) from long term chart which you calculated as 2415.48, 1698.19 or 1397.15 in post [url=http://www.wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&m=706678#post706678]1377[/url]


YES! Basically in a third wave extension each higher wave degree is composed of five lower degree waves viz:



Similar to above but in our case it is a bear market third wave extension (so mentally flip this upside down).


I see. So we need to complete red to v, blue to [v], green to 5 for black to be at C. Looks like the way down will be a loooong one.

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mlennyma
#1509 Posted : Saturday, February 06, 2016 7:43:42 PM
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mnandii wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?


Look at manufacturing stocks! They have shown resilience in a bear market since January 2016.


Don't rely on hope. NSE 20 Share Index is correcting below 4040 (i.e. it is rising for now but will not reach 4040). The next leg down is going to drown most wazuans (even some gurus here Sad ).

The bear that I predicted back one year ago when the NSE Index was still above 5300 is taking its toll. Yet some people see that as an opportunity to buy!!!!

a ship can sink but you will hardly miss some floating survivors
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Spikes
#1510 Posted : Saturday, February 06, 2016 9:20:53 PM
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mnandii wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?


Look at manufacturing stocks! They have shown resilience in a bear market since January 2016.


Don't rely on hope. NSE 20 Share Index is correcting below 4040 (i.e. it is rising for now but will not reach 4040). The next leg down is going to drown most wazuans (even some gurus here Sad ).

The bear that I predicted back one year ago when the NSE Index was still above 5300 is taking its toll. Yet some people see that as an opportunity to buy!!!!


@Mnandii I agree with you that NSE will not touch 4040. Which means there is room 3700<NSE<4040 . This is a wide range.
Will the next NSE slide be gentle or with swift bang according to charts ?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#1511 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2016 7:20:02 AM
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Spikes wrote:
mnandii wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?


Look at manufacturing stocks! They have shown resilience in a bear market since January 2016.


Don't rely on hope. NSE 20 Share Index is correcting below 4040 (i.e. it is rising for now but will not reach 4040). The next leg down is going to drown most wazuans (even some gurus here Sad ).

The bear that I predicted back one year ago when the NSE Index was still above 5300 is taking its toll. Yet some people see that as an opportunity to buy!!!!


@Mnandii I agree with you that NSE will not touch 4040. Which means there is room 3700<NSE<4040 . This is a wide range.
Will the next NSE slide be gentle or with swift bang according to charts ?

These charts work inefficiently in African markets especially approaching an election year.. People here will remember @stockmaster's mistake against my solid advice in 2012

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sparkly
#1512 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2016 9:03:56 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
mnandii wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?


Look at manufacturing stocks! They have shown resilience in a bear market since January 2016.


Don't rely on hope. NSE 20 Share Index is correcting below 4040 (i.e. it is rising for now but will not reach 4040). The next leg down is going to drown most wazuans (even some gurus here Sad ).

The bear that I predicted back one year ago when the NSE Index was still above 5300 is taking its toll. Yet some people see that as an opportunity to buy!!!!

a ship can sink but you will hardly miss some floating survivors


Well said. Pick up the floating survivors because it's impossible to tell when the ship has hit rock bottom.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Aguytrying
#1513 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2016 9:14:15 PM
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sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
mnandii wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?


Look at manufacturing stocks! They have shown resilience in a bear market since January 2016.


Don't rely on hope. NSE 20 Share Index is correcting below 4040 (i.e. it is rising for now but will not reach 4040). The next leg down is going to drown most wazuans (even some gurus here Sad ).

The bear that I predicted back one year ago when the NSE Index was still above 5300 is taking its toll. Yet some people see that as an opportunity to buy!!!!

a ship can sink but you will hardly miss some floating survivors


Well said. Pick up the floating survivors because it's impossible to tell when the ship has hit rock bottom.


When a stock is in my target range, I'm buying. I'm not worried about the index going lower, coz I don't need to sell.
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muandiwambeu
#1514 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2016 9:23:02 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
mnandii wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?


Look at manufacturing stocks! They have shown resilience in a bear market since January 2016.


Don't rely on hope. NSE 20 Share Index is correcting below 4040 (i.e. it is rising for now but will not reach 4040). The next leg down is going to drown most wazuans (even some gurus here Sad ).

The bear that I predicted back one year ago when the NSE Index was still above 5300 is taking its toll. Yet some people see that as an opportunity to buy!!!!

a ship can sink but you will hardly miss some floating survivors


Well said. Pick up the floating survivors because it's impossible to tell when the ship has hit rock bottom.


When a stock is in my target range, I'm buying. I'm not worried about the index going lower, coz I don't need to sell.

Why float anyway! To feed the sharks once the shark is fully charged? Me stake is what I am not ready to give and exposie my vital organs. Am playing safe.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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#1515 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2016 9:40:17 PM
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mnandii wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Here we go again. [url=http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Analysts-predict-bullish-run-for-NSE/-/996/3062170/-/7ln1sl/-/index.html]Analysts predict bullish run for NSE[/url]

Today NSE20 closed at 3,785.73. We will review this end of the year.

some stocks are yet to know the bear pple talk about.Kk do I sayApplause


Manufacturing stocks have defied the bear run expected to register a rise in prices this month .

what are u saying?


Look at manufacturing stocks! They have shown resilience in a bear market since January 2016.


Don't rely on hope. NSE 20 Share Index is correcting below 4040 (i.e. it is rising for now but will not reach 4040). The next leg down is going to drown most wazuans (even some gurus here Sad ).

The bear that I predicted back one year ago when the NSE Index was still above 5300 is taking its toll. Yet some people see that as an opportunity to buy!!!!


@Mnandii I agree with you that NSE will not touch 4040. Which means there is room 3700<NSE<4040 . This is a wide range.
Will the next NSE slide be gentle or with swift bang according to charts ?

These charts work inefficiently in African markets especially approaching an election year.. People here will remember @stockmaster's mistake against my solid advice in 2012


@Stockmaster vs @Obiero
Hmmm, tough decision. Who should I pick? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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whiteowl
#1516 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2016 1:29:15 AM
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It seems Saxo Bank wont be using Elliott Wave this year. As received:
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#1517 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2016 7:36:07 AM
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even as most remain pessimistic about a possible rally towards end of February, does it matter that some companies will report good results in March? some will announce good dividends, bonuses etc.
snipermnoma
#1518 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2016 10:25:45 AM
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instinct wrote:
even as most remain pessimistic about a possible rally towards end of February, does it matter that some companies will report good results in March? some will announce good dividends, bonuses etc.


Good question. I have noted that when pessimism grips, good news is ignored and prices stagnate or drop. Similarly when optimism grips, bad news is ignored and prices hold or increase. This bear we are in will likely ignore any good results in the next month.
hisah
#1519 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2016 10:35:58 AM
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snipermnoma wrote:
instinct wrote:
even as most remain pessimistic about a possible rally towards end of February, does it matter that some companies will report good results in March? some will announce good dividends, bonuses etc.


Good question. I have noted that when pessimism grips, good news is ignored and prices stagnate or drop. Similarly when optimism grips, bad news is ignored and prices hold or increase. This bear we are in will likely ignore any good results in the next month.

@sniper that's a nice way of summarizing market psychology.

Most think that since 2015 was a sell side period, the FY news expected in Q1 will change the market behaviour to the upside since we're in a new year. The reason being the market always rallies pre FY release. However, most are forgetting that the profit warnings are going to be actualized in this FY results. Why would the market rally? The sentiment is not bullish, but neither is it extremely pessimistic. For that reason this is why the market has to hit the decks again.

For a pendulum to swing you need the extreme swing ends to be reached to provide the force for the opposite swing. We're half way the bear swing. We'll reach the extreme swing end then change to the bullish swing.

Expect any rallies to be sold!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#1520 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2016 10:49:36 AM
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Mpesa bank... Caution... The next market down leg will catch many off-guard!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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