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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/2/2006 Posts: 1,206 Location: Nairobi
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Othelo wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Mike Ock wrote:No wonder Safaricom can never give a Kenyan the CEO post. I can only imagine what a guy can do with all those tenders My friend, with the Structures/systems at Safcom even Ciano hawesmake. Unless of course the systems are dismantled - which will be a challenge. I thought there was a Commercial Director was was sacked becuase of tendering issues at Safcom less than 2 years ago? Structures and systems are nothing.What matters is culture.... Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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bird_man wrote:Othelo wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Mike Ock wrote:No wonder Safaricom can never give a Kenyan the CEO post. I can only imagine what a guy can do with all those tenders My friend, with the Structures/systems at Safcom even Ciano hawesmake. Unless of course the systems are dismantled - which will be a challenge. I thought there was a Commercial Director was was sacked becuase of tendering issues at Safcom less than 2 years ago? Structures and systems are nothing.What matters is culture.... Did anyone see poaching incidents when R.Leakey was head of kws? What followed when Africans took over? The worst thing safcom can do is put a local guy the likes of Ciano or nyairofi governor.mtashangaa.its just a bad culture planted during the kanu Era of this country and made worse in successive regimes . Problem is that this culture is trained by parents ,teachers and even clergy men.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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MaichBlack wrote:Mike Ock wrote:No wonder Safaricom can never give a Kenyan the CEO post. I can only imagine what a guy can do with all those tenders My friend, with the Structures/systems at Safcom even Ciano hawesmake. Unless of course the systems are dismantled - which will be a challenge. Corrupt guys in Kenya don't need loose systems to work their magic. They loot blatantly without shame. As long as there is 200m spare for the judge, utado?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,455
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Othelo wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Mike Ock wrote:No wonder Safaricom can never give a Kenyan the CEO post. I can only imagine what a guy can do with all those tenders My friend, with the Structures/systems at Safcom even Ciano hawesmake. Unless of course the systems are dismantled - which will be a challenge. I thought there was a Commercial Director was was sacked becuase of tendering issues at Safcom less than 2 years ago? Every year a number of people are fired for such issues and others. The good thing is that it is not by chance or by accident. It is because of the structures. You don't survive for long at Safcom if you are corrupt. It doesn't matter who you are. You would be a genius to do it for more than a year. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,455
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Mike Ock wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Mike Ock wrote:No wonder Safaricom can never give a Kenyan the CEO post. I can only imagine what a guy can do with all those tenders My friend, with the Structures/systems at Safcom even Ciano hawesmake. Unless of course the systems are dismantled - which will be a challenge. Corrupt guys in Kenya don't need loose systems to work their magic. They loot blatantly without shame. As long as there is 200m spare for the judge, utado? By the time Safaricom take you in front of a judge, the have already worked on you internally. And their investigations are thorough. You can't fight back. Several people are fired every year and they don't even dare fight back ati wrongful dismissal sijui nini!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,455
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This is how Safaricom does it!Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Someone with a foreign culture heads it.proves the point iv been trying to hammer. Wacha uweke people with kenyan culture utaona how safcom will make profits in the opposite directions .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,455
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enyands wrote:Someone with a foreign culture heads it.proves the point iv been trying to hammer. Wacha uweke people with kenyan culture utaona how safcom will make profits in the opposite directions . Policies and structures are not created by the CEO. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/10/2014 Posts: 145 Location: Nairobi
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Someone with a foreign culture heads it.proves the point iv been trying to hammer. Wacha uweke people with kenyan culture utaona how safcom will make profits in the opposite directions . [/quo Safaricom initially was a department in the defunct Kenya post and telecommunication. The rest is history "Blowing out someone else candle won't make yours shine brighter"-Anonymous
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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jgithige wrote:Someone with a foreign culture heads it.proves the point iv been trying to hammer. Wacha uweke people with kenyan culture utaona how safcom will make profits in the opposite directions . [/quo Safaricom initially was a department in the defunct Kenya post and telecommunication. The rest is history True ,somebody had to force in a different and unique culture and it trickled down to the policy makers. Michael Joseph to be precise had to create a vision and policy makers followed the vision to come up with a frame work. Someone has to have a clear vision and that's usually the role of ceo or MD.so if the culture yake is mbovu, the vision will be and so as the policy. This is just how I see it and I could be wrong .
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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enyands wrote:bird_man wrote:Othelo wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Mike Ock wrote:No wonder Safaricom can never give a Kenyan the CEO post. I can only imagine what a guy can do with all those tenders My friend, with the Structures/systems at Safcom even Ciano hawesmake. Unless of course the systems are dismantled - which will be a challenge. I thought there was a Commercial Director was was sacked becuase of tendering issues at Safcom less than 2 years ago? Structures and systems are nothing.What matters is culture.... Did anyone see poaching incidents when R.Leakey was head of kws? What followed when Africans took over? The worst thing safcom can do is put a local guy the likes of Ciano or nyairofi governor.mtashangaa.its just a bad culture planted during the kanu Era of this country and made worse in successive regimes . Problem is that this culture is trained by parents ,teachers and even clergy men. this is a country of plunder, impunity and spoils. am fearing for safcom. at this rate of firing, someone will pull and odero style and fire the killer stinger missile Sadaams style. the judgement will make babies riot inside their mothers wombs.  ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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Thiong'o wrote:dunkang wrote:snipermnoma wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:FY 2015
1. Home Afrika
2. SGL
3. Express
4. Crown Paints
5. E A Cables
6. Sameer Africa
7. Britam
8. KQ
9. Mumias
10. Uchumi
11. C & G
Have i forgoten any or wrongly included some? 12. TPS 13. BOC 14. Atlas 15. ARM 16. StanChart 17. Pan African Insurance 18. Liberty 19. Liberty Holdings pushes number of NSE profit warnings to 181. Pan Africa Holdings, 2. Britam, 3. UAP Holdings 4. Express Kenya, 5. Standard Group, 6. Sameer Africa, 7. Atlas Development, 8. BOC Gases, 9. TPS Eastern Africa, 10. Crown Paints, 11. Standard Chartered, 12. Uchumi Supermarkets, 13. ARM Cement, 14. Mumias Sugar, 15. Car & General 16. East African Cables. 17. Liberty Kenya Holdings http://www.businessdaily...4/-/emnv4d/-/index.html
Missing from Authors list… 1. Home Afrika 2. KQ Not adding to 18? EABL craftily misses out on the list by a mere 3%.. CIC ndani.. KQ to appear only on a profit resumption notice
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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Sanlam uses creative accounting to escape it's own profit warning http://www.businessdaily...06902-ud1m89z/index.html
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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So far we have 2 profit warnings: 1.NSE 2.CIC Could have been 3 but sanlam have withdrawn their notice. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Ebenyo wrote:So far we have 2 profit warnings:
1.NSE
2.CIC
Could have been 3 but sanlam have withdrawn their
notice. 3. Limuru Tea Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/24/2008 Posts: 112
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@ pesa nane - please post profit warning ya Unga. It was published the same day as the half-year announcement, but on a different page of the Nation newspaper. Asante
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Elephant Man wrote:@ pesa nane - please post profit warning ya Unga. It was published the same day as the half-year announcement, but on a different page of the Nation newspaper. Asante  Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Pesa Nane wrote:Elephant Man wrote:@ pesa nane - please post profit warning ya Unga. It was published the same day as the half-year announcement, but on a different page of the Nation newspaper. Asante i have browsed unga website,no half year results. i have checked nation paper since friday,nothing. when was the profit warning posted? Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Ebenyo wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Elephant Man wrote:@ pesa nane - please post profit warning ya Unga. It was published the same day as the half-year announcement, but on a different page of the Nation newspaper. Asante i have browsed unga website,no half year results. i have checked nation paper since friday,nothing. when was the profit warning posted? Check out the very last detail on the statement Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Mumias Sugar adds their name to the list.. Daily Nation page 23 *someone should show me how to post images* African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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