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Rank: Member Joined: 8/8/2008 Posts: 97
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@HarryK...Today's trading is not bad considering it is a friday...made a short kill earlier on by going long on NZD/CHF...
Currently short on AUD/USD and long on USD/CAD...commodity prices are falling...oil is down too and my indicators are in agreeement with my trading so far.
Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2008 Posts: 4
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@passyson Good for you on NC. Lakini,why would you short AU and go long on UCAD? Isn't that like the same trade,aren't you just doubly exposing yourself. As you correctly note,both pairs are driven by commodity prices,what if there's a sudden rally of gold and oil,si both your stops will be hit? Inspired. www.softlaw.co.ke
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/8/2008 Posts: 97
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That's it for today...USD/CAD and AUD/USD s/l hit...My profit margin is less for today and thats it...calling it quits for the day.
Happy weekend all.
PS/ @HarryK...you are right on that...anyway they have just been hit :(
Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/9/2008 Posts: 44
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O.K. guys,let's cool off for the weekend.
I am really enjoying this discussion - I can see we now have our hearts and soul in it!
@Xnjambi,people not showing their accounts does not mean they are losing money. PS: I am not making bucket loads of money. That's a misrepresentation that's bringing me unprovoked heat in this blog.
@All,please forgive me for being unclear: I am not asking you to show your statements. I am inviting you to engage in a discussion on:
"What does the public think when we are unwilling to show our statements and how should we deal with this?"
It is a very intellectual topic and we badly need a solution. I am very sincere when I say that I am not attacking your very good persons. I just really would like us very much to focus on the topic and solve it because as you can see from the spirit of the recent posts,that this is a very big issue.
How do we solve it as a way to promote FX? Can we have a constructive debate on this?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2008 Posts: 107
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Hi all @passyson I have tried to get into the discussion today but SK really let me down a lot nimejaribu lakini wapi the site has been terrible slow and at times has been showing me that i repeat again in loading the site till i was just bored. Anyway the USD today has really rallied again and yesterday as you said you went short against the Euro hope you recovered your losses. Regarding the commodoties driven currencies they are still fealing the heat and the pressure taking into account the gold price levels are hitting to even 795 so i think at the time when you went long against the CAD ( i did not try the commodities currencies at all) i went long for USD/CHF which gave me a reprieve a little bit as the indicators were showing. I think @passyson we need to really get into deep and find the correlations of the commodities as maybe this is the opportune time to track their behaviour. @all Regarding the discussion which has been raging on i think we need to face the things with reality,am amazed when guys say that those who say the reality of forex investment should come up and show the accounts.I think this with due respect to all in this forum is not only misplaced but shows weakness of information.I placed this forum so that people can discuss freely issues affecting them in forex and help one another in information we do not want to hide anything which we think is of benefit to all. Making money is one of the factors to be in this investment which can be sustained with information. I do support that a managed account should show a person at least how he/she have been perfoming for some time with his accounts,but am finding it naive when it is said that this will be a prove for somebody having consistency;the market is turbulent and dynamic which changes within seconds and time so having historic perfomance to show to people is not a guarantee of success in future.Am also finding a little bit funny when people are told to produce their individual accounts to the public so that it can be proved a person is making something,hey! do you mean that it will be an indicator nothing is wrong with strategies used in the past?? - We all know what can be done to accounts regarding manipulation and e.t.c On the issue of what will people think of us if statement of accounts are not seen is also a statement which here in this forum have never heard a person asking who wanted to know about forex. What guys want to know is the approach and how things are done and they are given opinions which themselves traders and investors can countercheck with the market if it is right or wrong. I dont want to talk bad about people or how they did that or this but please as @passyson said that we need to have the facts to people freely and not be selfish by using naive tactics,we are here to benefit the forex fraternity with facts which can be counterchecked either by perfomance of the accounts or the markets. I will say again that i will always stand for the facts which people have been sharing openly to benefit all of us,information and continous skills and sharing of information is the key to be sustianble but showing an account and use it as the way to make people beleive is not right,as you give him the account try to update him with information and have direction where your knowledge and practical experience will be gauged .I think thats what differentiate people is abilities and the practical experience which can be counterchecked,this is the hard fact in all financial markets not having shortcuts. For those who are willing to participate and share information with others are all welcomed here as we prepare to have another forum where we can all enrich ourselves more and give confidence to the broader market in trying to develop the FX investment in our dear country.But for those who are not feeling comfortable maybe due to lack of information or anything then dont it will be wise if you just keep off,and am telling you we will develop as facts will always remain and all shall see.So we need partcipation which will be beneficial to all and we are here to share that information freely and help those who are to be helped,i know we have people around here who have those abilities. Maybe we will have a small round table and have tea so that we could see the way forward in helping each other and all those who are interested. @passyson,toni.Kim,Harryk and all will be welcomed. @passyson,toni,dont forget to research on the correlations i told you about am on them also. @all Have a nice weekend
@NGAATU
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/13/2008 Posts: 3
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Hi all The past topic on account statements has been quite interesting. Its good to air our views,but personally i find it misplaced here. I understand this forum is meant to inform,educate and help sharpen our trading skills both for now and for life. I don't think most individual traders are interested in other's thin or fat accounts. Im a newbie and not interested. I'd rather constructive information/skills. Friends,let us not deviate our thoughts from this vision.
@alala:Clients whose PERSONAL accounts are managed,have a right to be shown their performance.
@kilabe: u are right. @passyon: your Aug14th market analysis was helpful thanks. @ngaatu: i support fx forum idea,lets go for it! @HaryK: That's a mature school of thought. indeed one double exposes him/herself in trading currencies affected by same fundamentals.
Have a great weekend everyone.
Life is a JUST employer,He gives you what you ask...once you have set the wages,u must bear the task...
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2008 Posts: 107
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Anyway we are having a healthy discusion so Let's not have ill motives we are helping each OTher.but we do need to set a sort of regulation.
@NGAATU
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2008 Posts: 4
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@passyson pole pole,this is one time i'm not happy to be right. Anyway monday pia ni siku. @bigiSAR thanks for the comments and welcome to the discussion @all i'm curious,how many of you have a documented trading plan? I only managed to put mine together after nearly one year of trading. Inspired. www.softlaw.co.ke
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/11/2008 Posts: 4
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fellows,this thread got too much jargon!..nway.allow me,a layman in FX,to ask a few questns as follows:
1. Is this FX thing really an investment?or a gamble/game?.i believe an investment has a consistent history of returns,and risks and is also predictable.
2. Who are the main players in FX esp in Kenya and how is they past perfomance?
3. Do pple who trade for others,on commission,provide minimum guarantees to their clients?and how secure is somebody's capital with the dealers.
Lastly,we have had very negative events from pple purpoting to be FX experts..some in this thread ofcourse.I know pple who have been cheated as well..and i was almost falling into the trap myself.Therefore if this FX thing is to grow theres need to create confidence by sharing information and dimisifyng the -ve publicity thus far as well as regulating the whole process.
seize the moment
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/10/2008 Posts: 301 Location: Abu Dhabi
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hi all,
Seems there was quite some heat in the discussions on Friday. In my opinion,I think what would create more interest in forex would be things like posting trade ideas (@Passyon doing a good job),discussing new ideas (eg @Ngaatu on correlations etc),as opposed to showing statements. if we all share our statements (some in profits and some in losses),would that be the end of this thread? Trade ideas are more dynamic and keep changing on a daily basis. And thats what will keep us going.
@Ngaatu,
Some correlations which have had more than 60% correltion in the last 3-6 months.
EUR and CHF = -0.91
EUR and GBP = 0.66
JPY and CHF = 0.80
ZAR and TRY => 0.70
AUD and CHF = -0.65
AUD and JPY = -0.64
SGD and JPY = 0.65
I couldnt get for USD/CAD and AUD/USD,but when I plot them on the same graph,the correlation is very similar to USD/CHF and EUR/USD,so must be in the region of 0.85 to 0.9. Secondly,both are highly correlated with commodity prices (Canada is second largest producer of Oil and Aussie is a large producer of metals,esp gold).
Question is: Can we comeup with some trade ideas?
On USD,
Do you guys thinks the USD is reaching a plateau? Just have a feeling that sometime this week we may have some strong rebounds. Wish you all a great week ahead.
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