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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
Aguytrying
#1401 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2016 4:36:06 PM
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hisah wrote:
@spikes, the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded. This is what makes sellers stall the bulls as they pile up to cash out of losses as the rebound gives them lesser squeeze. Plenty of investors are trapped in bad positions and the rebound will likely tempted them to sell on the bounce.

We will get a proper bottom when it feels like it's bottomless. 2015 selloff didn't trigger that kind of sentiment. If you were in the market back in 2008 (GFC) and 2011 (KES crash/inflation spike) you'd understand that sinking feeling (capitulation). At that point a lot of guys give up on stocks (no sellers). That's when the major bottom kicks in.


Yeah. The buyers paradise. We're not yet there, still some optimism in the market, we need that extinguished first
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Spikes
#1402 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2016 5:13:41 PM
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the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded.

@hisah Your topical statement is very powerful and true I encourage every NSE participant to comprehend. The catch phrase above says it all what is unfolding at the bourse.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Spikes
#1403 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2016 5:16:27 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
@spikes, the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded. This is what makes sellers stall the bulls as they pile up to cash out of losses as the rebound gives them lesser squeeze. Plenty of investors are trapped in bad positions and the rebound will likely tempted them to sell on the bounce.

We will get a proper bottom when it feels like it's bottomless. 2015 selloff didn't trigger that kind of sentiment. If you were in the market back in 2008 (GFC) and 2011 (KES crash/inflation spike) you'd understand that sinking feeling (capitulation). At that point a lot of guys give up on stocks (no sellers). That's when the major bottom kicks in.


Yeah. The buyers paradise. We're not yet there, still some optimism in the market, we need that extinguished first
the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded.

@hisah Your topical statement is very powerful and true I encourage every NSE participant to comprehend. The catch phrase above says it all what is unfolding at the bourse.

John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Aguytrying
#1404 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:25:05 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
@spikes, the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded. This is what makes sellers stall the bulls as they pile up to cash out of losses as the rebound gives them lesser squeeze. Plenty of investors are trapped in bad positions and the rebound will likely tempted them to sell on the bounce.

We will get a proper bottom when it feels like it's bottomless. 2015 selloff didn't trigger that kind of sentiment. If you were in the market back in 2008 (GFC) and 2011 (KES crash/inflation spike) you'd understand that sinking feeling (capitulation). At that point a lot of guys give up on stocks (no sellers). That's when the major bottom kicks in.


Yeah. The buyers paradise. We're not yet there, still some optimism in the market, we need that extinguished first
the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded.

@hisah Your topical statement is very powerful and true I encourage every NSE participant to comprehend. The catch phrase above says it all what is unfolding at the bourse.



@Spikes. I remember 2011 bear vividly. Trust me, even finding someone to talk stocks with here will be hard. Wazua will become a ghost town, the colour on the NSE will be red everyday for what will feel like forever. But thats when the value investors strike, when the tight, firmly held purses are loosened
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Spikes
#1405 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:44:02 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
@spikes, the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded. This is what makes sellers stall the bulls as they pile up to cash out of losses as the rebound gives them lesser squeeze. Plenty of investors are trapped in bad positions and the rebound will likely tempted them to sell on the bounce.

We will get a proper bottom when it feels like it's bottomless. 2015 selloff didn't trigger that kind of sentiment. If you were in the market back in 2008 (GFC) and 2011 (KES crash/inflation spike) you'd understand that sinking feeling (capitulation). At that point a lot of guys give up on stocks (no sellers). That's when the major bottom kicks in.


Yeah. The buyers paradise. We're not yet there, still some optimism in the market, we need that extinguished first
the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded.

@hisah Your topical statement is very powerful and true I encourage every NSE participant to comprehend. The catch phrase above says it all what is unfolding at the bourse.



@Spikes. I remember 2011 bear vividly. Trust me, even finding someone to talk stocks with here will be hard. Wazua will become a ghost town, the colour on the NSE will be red everyday for what will feel like forever. But thats when the value investors strike, when the tight, firmly held purses are loosened


Today NSE20 index is likely to shed more that 100 points! A high probability of this event happening. Is like bloodbath is warming up.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Aguytrying
#1406 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:32:44 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
@spikes, the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded. This is what makes sellers stall the bulls as they pile up to cash out of losses as the rebound gives them lesser squeeze. Plenty of investors are trapped in bad positions and the rebound will likely tempted them to sell on the bounce.

We will get a proper bottom when it feels like it's bottomless. 2015 selloff didn't trigger that kind of sentiment. If you were in the market back in 2008 (GFC) and 2011 (KES crash/inflation spike) you'd understand that sinking feeling (capitulation). At that point a lot of guys give up on stocks (no sellers). That's when the major bottom kicks in.


Yeah. The buyers paradise. We're not yet there, still some optimism in the market, we need that extinguished first
the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded.

@hisah Your topical statement is very powerful and true I encourage every NSE participant to comprehend. The catch phrase above says it all what is unfolding at the bourse.



@Spikes. I remember 2011 bear vividly. Trust me, even finding someone to talk stocks with here will be hard. Wazua will become a ghost town, the colour on the NSE will be red everyday for what will feel like forever. But thats when the value investors strike, when the tight, firmly held purses are loosened


Today NSE20 index is likely to shed more that 100 points! A high probability of this event happening. Is like bloodbath is warming up.


I've seen it too, sub 3800 perhaps
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mlennyma
#1407 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:36:02 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
@spikes, the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded. This is what makes sellers stall the bulls as they pile up to cash out of losses as the rebound gives them lesser squeeze. Plenty of investors are trapped in bad positions and the rebound will likely tempted them to sell on the bounce.

We will get a proper bottom when it feels like it's bottomless. 2015 selloff didn't trigger that kind of sentiment. If you were in the market back in 2008 (GFC) and 2011 (KES crash/inflation spike) you'd understand that sinking feeling (capitulation). At that point a lot of guys give up on stocks (no sellers). That's when the major bottom kicks in.


Yeah. The buyers paradise. We're not yet there, still some optimism in the market, we need that extinguished first
the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded.

@hisah Your topical statement is very powerful and true I encourage every NSE participant to comprehend. The catch phrase above says it all what is unfolding at the bourse.



@Spikes. I remember 2011 bear vividly. Trust me, even finding someone to talk stocks with here will be hard. Wazua will become a ghost town, the colour on the NSE will be red everyday for what will feel like forever. But thats when the value investors strike, when the tight, firmly held purses are loosened


Today NSE20 index is likely to shed more that 100 points! A high probability of this event happening. Is like bloodbath is warming up.


I've seen it too, sub 3800 perhaps

If your investment in the nse is not a loan be calm.one day the bull shall return but things are thick today kcb is coming down fast
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
muandiwambeu
#1408 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:36:49 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
@spikes, the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded. This is what makes sellers stall the bulls as they pile up to cash out of losses as the rebound gives them lesser squeeze. Plenty of investors are trapped in bad positions and the rebound will likely tempted them to sell on the bounce.

We will get a proper bottom when it feels like it's bottomless. 2015 selloff didn't trigger that kind of sentiment. If you were in the market back in 2008 (GFC) and 2011 (KES crash/inflation spike) you'd understand that sinking feeling (capitulation). At that point a lot of guys give up on stocks (no sellers). That's when the major bottom kicks in.


Yeah. The buyers paradise. We're not yet there, still some optimism in the market, we need that extinguished first
the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded.

@hisah Your topical statement is very powerful and true I encourage every NSE participant to comprehend. The catch phrase above says it all what is unfolding at the bourse.



@Spikes. I remember 2011 bear vividly. Trust me, even finding someone to talk stocks with here will be hard. Wazua will become a ghost town, the colour on the NSE will be red everyday for what will feel like forever. But thats when the value investors strike, when the tight, firmly held purses are loosened


Today NSE20 index is likely to shed more that 100 points! A high probability of this event happening. Is like bloodbath is warming up.

Things are really getting messy. with every whim of safcom, Mr market is dancing to the rhythm. Once safcom gives way, and with equity and kcb dancing to the rhythm, it is going to be, every man for himself and he'll shall be so real. Winter bite is in the very air. Punda amechoka. Drool Drool Pray Pray
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
cnn
#1409 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:42:15 PM
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Its a risk off day,it started with Asia and Europe is also a sea of red.Nowhere near that 08 feeling as yet,the bear should get more agressive.
bartum
#1410 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:10:13 PM
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I like whats happening in market
mlennyma
#1411 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:47:29 PM
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bartum wrote:
I like whats happening in market

the political fever is yet to combine forces with this market mood to screw it to the bottom
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
lochaz-index
#1412 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:03:56 PM
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cnn wrote:
Its a risk off day,it started with Asia and Europe is also a sea of red.Nowhere near that 08 feeling as yet,the bear should get more agressive.


We should get to the GFC feeling before the year is out.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
maka
#1413 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:13:32 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
bartum wrote:
I like whats happening in market

the political fever is yet to combine forces with this market mood to screw it to the bottom


This is good post elections mutli millionaires will be made...
possunt quia posse videntur
Emerger
#1414 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:16:32 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
cnn wrote:
Its a risk off day,it started with Asia and Europe is also a sea of red.Nowhere near that 08 feeling as yet,the bear should get more agressive.


We should get to the GFC feeling before the year is out.


Interesting market behaviour. How long will it remain down as per the chartists?
VituVingiSana
#1415 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:46:23 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
@spikes, the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded. This is what makes sellers stall the bulls as they pile up to cash out of losses as the rebound gives them lesser squeeze. Plenty of investors are trapped in bad positions and the rebound will likely tempted them to sell on the bounce.

We will get a proper bottom when it feels like it's bottomless. 2015 selloff didn't trigger that kind of sentiment. If you were in the market back in 2008 (GFC) and 2011 (KES crash/inflation spike) you'd understand that sinking feeling (capitulation). At that point a lot of guys give up on stocks (no sellers). That's when the major bottom kicks in.


Yeah. The buyers paradise. We're not yet there, still some optimism in the market, we need that extinguished first
the market will rebound but as long as 4000 critical support has broken down that rebound will not be sustainable because the investor psychology has been shredded.

@hisah Your topical statement is very powerful and true I encourage every NSE participant to comprehend. The catch phrase above says it all what is unfolding at the bourse.



@Spikes. I remember 2011 bear vividly. Trust me, even finding someone to talk stocks with here will be hard. Wazua will become a ghost town, the colour on the NSE will be red everyday for what will feel like forever. But thats when the value investors strike, when the tight, firmly held purses are loosened

@AGuy - True Dat. I am only buying what I can hold onto even if the market was to shut down for 3 years. Management. Very important.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
bartum
#1416 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 4:43:23 PM
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This time round i will load like never before.another opportunity to be multi milli
instinct
#1417 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:21:46 PM
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bartum wrote:
This time round i will load like never before.another opportunity to be multi milli


with an imminent Uhuruto 2nd term i wont be that determined..
muandiwambeu
#1418 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:03:06 PM
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instinct wrote:
bartum wrote:
This time round i will load like never before.another opportunity to be multi milli


with an imminent Uhuruto 2nd term i wont be that determined..

Yes @instinct. Well spoken. Otherwise how do we explain the despondency in the market yet, energy as a key factor of production is getting cheaper and more available. Anyway the bear has a unique taste for despondency and you never know it may just have caught some scent. I'll stay put till a firm ground is established to start shooting without missing. smile
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Spikes
#1419 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:23:42 PM
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The most frustrating and haunting thing in Securities Exchange is selling your stake today at a throw away price only to wake up the following day by surprise all authoritative newspapers business section is hit by reports of super profits as high as 10 times the previous performance. Imagine your indignation at this scenario after holding your shares for more than a year!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
snipermnoma
#1420 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:34:57 PM
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Today a new multi-year low was set at 3,796.49 for the NSE 20. Not since mid 2012 have we had the index this low...that sinking feeling is beginning to set in. EABL and KCB are now sliding. Equity is caving in and yet safaricom has not fully joined the fray. What will happen once safaricom goes through a slump? Things are unfolding fast.
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