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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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VVS, when are the hedges (at 90?) 'expiring'? GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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And also keep in mind the employees may demand that all those "super-normal profits" be put into their pay slips or they strike. A New Kenya
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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QW25071985 wrote:QW25071985 wrote:This is very exciting for me as a shareholder.we all know (or i assume,lol) that before a price does a major rally the stock has to change hands at a very large vol at a stationery price.this what has been happening to KQ. As it strongly signifies a price floor that will form a base for the extended rally.
@ hisah and any other t.a (s). I am sure you agree.
I have seen what price floor can do especially in forex trading where i am active.the rally that follows is usually big.
So if you ask me this is the time to buy KQ.  . i saw it all along. Now look where the price is . that large order that changed hands around 13 april was a signal for us mere mortals to get in and ride the price up w/ the big boys. @QW....how does one know when a big order has been made on a stock?...is there a website that shows these numbers?.....when i grow up i wanna be a mbig mboy....tafadhali saidia Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/8/2011 Posts: 25
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@fyatu,vuta aerial ya fyatuktuk..CFC LIVE would probably show you the sell/purchase orders and as such be able to make informed decision.
And by the way, is this the fyatu that I know?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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ki-nyama wrote:@fyatu,vuta aerial ya fyatuktuk..CFC LIVE would probably show you the sell/purchase orders and as such be able to make informed decision.
And by the way, is this the fyatu that I know?  .....Ki-nyama....i don't believe we know each other...please provide the link for CFC live Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/8/2011 Posts: 25
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well,you have to open an account with CFC financial services to be able to trade online.
If you are only interested in knowing the no. of shares changing hands and the price, try Rich.co.ke
May be I mistook you with another fyatu that I know.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:VVS, when are the hedges (at 90?) 'expiring'? Dec 2012 [if the price of oil drops then KQ will have to PAY the counterparties] Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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Much Know wrote:And also keep in mind the employees may demand that all those "super-normal profits" be put into their pay slips or they strike. Let them strike... KQ's management needs to grow a backbone. KQ can always hire others [like they recruited from local airlines] including foreign staff since most of its passengers and destination are NOT Kenyan. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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QW25071985 wrote:you must be jokin at 30.00 . unless the results prove to be a loss. which is impossible Nop, not a joke. Those fuel hedges give me the creeps...$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander
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ProverB wrote: Back in time to dump!!! i thought i'd be stuck at 34.00.. nicely done.. consider again post june 4th. Arguably..better year than last but even so.. market has hurt other way reliably better performers. its wise to note majority holders are sentimentally attached here. Nice return. Back to financials.. Bila regrets.. Spectacular performance nevetheless..i think..but kusustain itakuwa hard. Ayeiya!..Powa powa. ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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ProverB wrote:ProverB wrote: Back in time to dump!!! i thought i'd be stuck at 34.00.. nicely done.. consider again post june 4th. Arguably..better year than last but even so.. market has hurt other way reliably better performers. its wise to note majority holders are sentimentally attached here. Nice return. Back to financials.. Bila regrets.. Spectacular performance nevetheless..i think..but kusustain itakuwa hard. Ayeiya!..Powa powa. KQ 2.0 it will be sustained..unless another recession comes..oil drops to $80/barrel...well played..
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:ProverB wrote:ProverB wrote: Back in time to dump!!! i thought i'd be stuck at 34.00.. nicely done.. consider again post june 4th. Arguably..better year than last but even so.. market has hurt other way reliably better performers. its wise to note majority holders are sentimentally attached here. Nice return. Back to financials.. Bila regrets.. Spectacular performance nevetheless..i think..but kusustain itakuwa hard. Ayeiya!..Powa powa. KQ 2.0 it will be sustained..unless another recession comes..oil drops to $80/barrel...well played.. I believe it is @ $90/bbl not $80... At $80, KQ will be forking out cash but only partial hedge so there are benefits as well. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 56 Location: Kenya
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On the back of the recent announcement of KQ's full year results, here is a SWOT analysis for the airline LINK: KQ SWOT ANALYSIS
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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@kenyainvestin. A p.e of 5.56. Wow that is very low. I wonder what p.e kq normally trades at, cause this is just too low. Unfortunately or fortunately set to be diluted by rights issue. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Cde Monomotapa wrote:QW25071985 wrote:and our beloeved KQ ambassador @ VVS has been very quite on KQ of late.....pia yeye inaonekana anungua pia ...hehe. but i am sure now that kq is movin up he'll spring back to life sayin how pax numbers blah ! blah !blah !blah ! and how he saw it commin... Lol!! Now this I like. Poor QW... what do you want me to say? I never sold any KQ at 32 or 33 or 34... but while folks like you bashed it... I was picking up a few [& KK too!]... Watch me reap the benefits! Folks are focused on 9 dreamliners... That is good but I am focused on the 'death' of competition as fuel prices rise for other airlines. As a passenger, not good! As a shareholder very good! Blast from the past. Unafik reloaded!!!
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Cde Monomotapa wrote:QW25071985 wrote:and our beloeved KQ ambassador @ VVS has been very quite on KQ of late.....pia yeye inaonekana anungua pia ...hehe. but i am sure now that kq is movin up he'll spring back to life sayin how pax numbers blah ! blah !blah !blah ! and how he saw it commin... Lol!! Now this I like. Poor QW... what do you want me to say? I never sold any KQ at 32 or 33 or 34... but while folks like you bashed it... I was picking up a few [& KK too!]... Watch me reap the benefits! Folks are focused on 9 dreamliners... That is good but I am focused on the 'death' of competition as fuel prices rise for other airlines. As a passenger, not good! As a shareholder very good! Blast from the past. Unafik reloaded!!! You picked up afew? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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murchr wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Cde Monomotapa wrote:QW25071985 wrote:and our beloeved KQ ambassador @ VVS has been very quite on KQ of late.....pia yeye inaonekana anungua pia ...hehe. but i am sure now that kq is movin up he'll spring back to life sayin how pax numbers blah ! blah !blah !blah ! and how he saw it commin... Lol!! Now this I like. Poor QW... what do you want me to say? I never sold any KQ at 32 or 33 or 34... but while folks like you bashed it... I was picking up a few [& KK too!]... Watch me reap the benefits! Folks are focused on 9 dreamliners... That is good but I am focused on the 'death' of competition as fuel prices rise for other airlines. As a passenger, not good! As a shareholder very good! Blast from the past. Unafik reloaded!!! You picked up afew? Yes. I did. Waiting for the Embakasi land sale to sail through, for my added comfort to purchase more
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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This article by Carol Musyoka adds to what I have been trying to get folks to understand. http://www.businessdaily...1/-/odx65f/-/index.html
IF YOU DO NOT TRUST THE MANAGEMENT OF A FIRM THEN DO NOT INVEST IN THE FIRM.My first such significant loss was Olympia. Then KQ. [I was lucky to recognize early on that Merali was a crook] Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:This article by Carol Musyoka adds to what I have been trying to get folks to understand. http://www.businessdaily...1/-/odx65f/-/index.html
IF YOU DO NOT TRUST THE MANAGEMENT OF A FIRM THEN DO NOT INVEST IN THE FIRM.My first such significant loss was Olympia. Then KQ. [I was lucky to recognize early on that Merali was a crook] @kq management wasnt extremely crooked. what happened is that they stole and macro environment attacked at the same damn time! like a kid looking to steal only one teaspoon of sugar, then unfortunately the sugar jar tips over and breaks!
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:This article by Carol Musyoka adds to what I have been trying to get folks to understand. http://www.businessdaily...1/-/odx65f/-/index.html
IF YOU DO NOT TRUST THE MANAGEMENT OF A FIRM THEN DO NOT INVEST IN THE FIRM.My first such significant loss was Olympia. Then KQ. [I was lucky to recognize early on that Merali was a crook] @kq management wasnt extremely crooked. what happened is that they stole and macro environment attacked at the same damn time! like a kid looking to steal only one teaspoon of sugar, then unfortunately the sugar jar tips over and breaks! Ahhh! So KQ's management were just small-time crooks but crooks they were. A kickback from those selling hedges. A kickback from the juice/soda supplier. Just small time crooks being paid millions/month. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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