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ki-nyama
#226 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2011 12:59:22 PM
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well,you have to open an account with CFC financial services to be able to trade online.
If you are only interested in knowing the no. of shares changing hands and the price, try Rich.co.ke

May be I mistook you with another fyatu that I know.
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VituVingiSana
#227 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:40:46 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
VVS, when are the hedges (at 90?) 'expiring'?

Dec 2012 [if the price of oil drops then KQ will have to PAY the counterparties]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana
#228 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:44:41 AM
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Much Know wrote:
And also keep in mind the employees may demand that all those "super-normal profits" be put into their pay slips or they strike.
Let them strike... KQ's management needs to grow a backbone. KQ can always hire others [like they recruited from local airlines] including foreign staff since most of its passengers and destination are NOT Kenyan.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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hisah
#229 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:39:38 AM
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QW25071985 wrote:
you must be jokin at 30.00 . unless the results prove to be a loss. which is impossible

Nop, not a joke. Those fuel hedges give me the creeps...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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ProverB
#230 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:51:04 AM
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ProverB wrote:
smile Back in time to dump!!! i thought i'd be stuck at 34.00.. nicely done..
consider again post june 4th. Arguably..better year than last but even so.. market has hurt other way reliably better performers.
its wise to note majority holders are sentimentally attached here.

Nice return. Back to financials..smile


Bila regrets..
Spectacular performance nevetheless..i think..but kusustain itakuwa hard.
Ayeiya!..Powa powa. smile
..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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the deal
#231 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:56:45 AM
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ProverB wrote:
ProverB wrote:
smile Back in time to dump!!! i thought i'd be stuck at 34.00.. nicely done..
consider again post june 4th. Arguably..better year than last but even so.. market has hurt other way reliably better performers.
its wise to note majority holders are sentimentally attached here.

Nice return. Back to financials..smile


Bila regrets..
Spectacular performance nevetheless..i think..but kusustain itakuwa hard.
Ayeiya!..Powa powa. smile


KQ 2.0 it will be sustained..unless another recession comes..oil drops to $80/barrel...well played..smile
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VituVingiSana
#232 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 6:54:42 PM
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the deal wrote:
ProverB wrote:
ProverB wrote:
smile Back in time to dump!!! i thought i'd be stuck at 34.00.. nicely done..
consider again post june 4th. Arguably..better year than last but even so.. market has hurt other way reliably better performers.
its wise to note majority holders are sentimentally attached here.

Nice return. Back to financials..smile


Bila regrets..
Spectacular performance nevetheless..i think..but kusustain itakuwa hard.
Ayeiya!..Powa powa. smile


KQ 2.0 it will be sustained..unless another recession comes..oil drops to $80/barrel...well played..smile
I believe it is @ $90/bbl not $80... At $80, KQ will be forking out cash but only partial hedge so there are benefits as well.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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kenyainvesting.blogspot.com
#233 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2011 1:22:20 AM
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On the back of the recent announcement of KQ's full year results, here is a SWOT analysis for the airline

LINK: KQ SWOT ANALYSIS
MY BLOG: Kenya Investing
BE MY FRIEND ON FACEBOOK: Kenya Investing Facebook Page
TWITTER HANDLE: @kenyainvestor
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Aguytrying
#234 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 9:49:35 AM
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@kenyainvestin. A p.e of 5.56. Wow that is very low. I wonder what p.e kq normally trades at, cause this is just too low. Unfortunately or fortunately set to be diluted by rights issue.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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obiero
#235 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:07:01 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
and our beloeved KQ ambassador @ VVS has been very quite on KQ of late.....pia yeye inaonekana anungua pia ...hehe. but i am sure now that kq is movin up he'll spring back to life sayin how pax numbers blah ! blah !blah !blah ! and how he saw it commin...Laughing out loudly

Lol!! Now this I like.
Poor QW... what do you want me to say?

I never sold any KQ at 32 or 33 or 34... but while folks like you bashed it... I was picking up a few [& KK too!]...

Watch me reap the benefits!

Folks are focused on 9 dreamliners... That is good but I am focused on the 'death' of competition as fuel prices rise for other airlines. As a passenger, not good! As a shareholder very good!

Blast from the past. Unafik reloaded!!!

KQ ABP 4.26
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murchr
#236 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:16:42 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
and our beloeved KQ ambassador @ VVS has been very quite on KQ of late.....pia yeye inaonekana anungua pia ...hehe. but i am sure now that kq is movin up he'll spring back to life sayin how pax numbers blah ! blah !blah !blah ! and how he saw it commin...Laughing out loudly

Lol!! Now this I like.
Poor QW... what do you want me to say?

I never sold any KQ at 32 or 33 or 34... but while folks like you bashed it... I was picking up a few [& KK too!]...

Watch me reap the benefits!

Folks are focused on 9 dreamliners... That is good but I am focused on the 'death' of competition as fuel prices rise for other airlines. As a passenger, not good! As a shareholder very good!

Blast from the past. Unafik reloaded!!!


obiero wrote:
KQ 2,500


You picked up afew? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#237 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:55:53 PM
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murchr wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
and our beloeved KQ ambassador @ VVS has been very quite on KQ of late.....pia yeye inaonekana anungua pia ...hehe. but i am sure now that kq is movin up he'll spring back to life sayin how pax numbers blah ! blah !blah !blah ! and how he saw it commin...Laughing out loudly

Lol!! Now this I like.
Poor QW... what do you want me to say?

I never sold any KQ at 32 or 33 or 34... but while folks like you bashed it... I was picking up a few [& KK too!]...

Watch me reap the benefits!

Folks are focused on 9 dreamliners... That is good but I am focused on the 'death' of competition as fuel prices rise for other airlines. As a passenger, not good! As a shareholder very good!

Blast from the past. Unafik reloaded!!!


obiero wrote:
KQ 2,500


You picked up afew? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Yes. I did. Waiting for the Embakasi land sale to sail through, for my added comfort to purchase more

KQ ABP 4.26
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VituVingiSana
#238 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:57:02 PM
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This article by Carol Musyoka adds to what I have been trying to get folks to understand.

http://www.businessdaily...1/-/odx65f/-/index.html

IF YOU DO NOT TRUST THE MANAGEMENT OF A FIRM THEN DO NOT INVEST IN THE FIRM.
My first such significant loss was Olympia. Then KQ.
[I was lucky to recognize early on that Merali was a crook]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#239 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2016 10:19:04 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
This article by Carol Musyoka adds to what I have been trying to get folks to understand.

http://www.businessdaily...1/-/odx65f/-/index.html

IF YOU DO NOT TRUST THE MANAGEMENT OF A FIRM THEN DO NOT INVEST IN THE FIRM.
My first such significant loss was Olympia. Then KQ.
[I was lucky to recognize early on that Merali was a crook]

@kq management wasnt extremely crooked. what happened is that they stole and macro environment attacked at the same damn time! like a kid looking to steal only one teaspoon of sugar, then unfortunately the sugar jar tips over and breaks!

KQ ABP 4.26
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VituVingiSana
#240 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:05:29 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
This article by Carol Musyoka adds to what I have been trying to get folks to understand.

http://www.businessdaily...1/-/odx65f/-/index.html

IF YOU DO NOT TRUST THE MANAGEMENT OF A FIRM THEN DO NOT INVEST IN THE FIRM.
My first such significant loss was Olympia. Then KQ.
[I was lucky to recognize early on that Merali was a crook]

@kq management wasnt extremely crooked. what happened is that they stole and macro environment attacked at the same damn time! like a kid looking to steal only one teaspoon of sugar, then unfortunately the sugar jar tips over and breaks!

Ahhh! So KQ's management were just small-time crooks but crooks they were. A kickback from those selling hedges.
A kickback from the juice/soda supplier.
Just small time crooks being paid millions/month.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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