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MunyaoTrader
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 07, 2016 12:23:10 PM
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I am a kenyan working abroad. I want to confirm, if i wire an equivalent of less than 10,000 us dollars to my kenyan bank account do i really need to show documents to my kenyan bank to proof the source of funds?
Please feel free to advice and share your experiences.
muganda
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 07, 2016 12:33:05 PM
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I'd say it depends on your bank, level of activity and parameters shared when opening the account. If something bleeps (meaning it's a way out of the ordinary transaction) they will have to ask for some information.

Naturally, the banks are more vigilant when money is leaving the Bank itself, as they have nothing to hold onto.
enyands
#3 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2016 4:08:50 AM
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MunyaoTrader wrote:
I am a kenyan working abroad. I want to confirm, if i wire an equivalent of less than 10,000 us dollars to my kenyan bank account do i really need to show documents to my kenyan bank to proof the source of funds?
Please feel free to advice and share your experiences.


Please don't send usd 10,000. Play with some figures. Send 6,000 first batch and 4,000 second batch. Though they will charge you some commission for wiring twice but it will save you the hustle of providing documents to prove the source of your money.

kaka2za
#4 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2016 7:37:17 AM
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@ Muganda is right. If you usually remmit $5K and suddenly you send $ 10K then you will have to provide details unless you are dealing with Family Bank who don't seem to care.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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whiteowl
#5 Posted : Saturday, January 09, 2016 3:30:12 PM
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Just build up the transactions gradually eg. sending 2k,4k,3k,5k and don't mind the transaction fees.After a while nobody will blink even you wire $1 million.
rico14
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:10:49 PM
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I never knew that banks check this stuff. But I have never received more than 2k.
When withdrawing from equity was hectic, I felt discriminated by the manger not sure if it was because I was young.
That is why I moved banks :( what a waste it is a nice bank!
sitaki.kujulikana
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:16:38 PM
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rico14 wrote:
I never knew that banks check this stuff. But I have never received more than 2k.
When withdrawing from equity was hectic, I felt discriminated by the manger not sure if it was because I was young.
That is why I moved banks :( what a waste it is a nice bank!

why would you involve a manager when withdrawing funds, not sure withdrawing 200k kes is that drastic for any bank in kenya
rico14
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:34:00 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
rico14 wrote:
I never knew that banks check this stuff. But I have never received more than 2k.
When withdrawing from equity was hectic, I felt discriminated by the manger not sure if it was because I was young.
That is why I moved banks :( what a waste it is a nice bank!

why would you involve a manager when withdrawing funds, not sure withdrawing 200k kes is that drastic for any bank in kenya

It was in a savings account I had to sign, have my ID and be verified by the branch manager.
So I go to the branch and she tells me she can't allow me to withdraw without my phone.
I had to go to another branch so as to withdraw you can imagine the struggle and this lady maybe looked at me and thought no way this kid can withdraw, just wow and I was not withdrawing 2k.
I mean't i have never received more than 2k from outside kenya
kaka2za
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:58:08 PM
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rico14 wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
rico14 wrote:
I never knew that banks check this stuff. But I have never received more than 2k.
When withdrawing from equity was hectic, I felt discriminated by the manger not sure if it was because I was young.
That is why I moved banks :( what a waste it is a nice bank!

why would you involve a manager when withdrawing funds, not sure withdrawing 200k kes is that drastic for any bank in kenya

It was in a savings account I had to sign, have my ID and be verified by the branch manager.
So I go to the branch and she tells me she can't allow me to withdraw without my phone.
I had to go to another branch so as to withdraw you can imagine the struggle and this lady maybe looked at me and thought no way this kid can withdraw, just wow and I was not withdrawing 2k.
I mean't i have never received more than 2k from outside kenya


I have used Equity for years and no hassles.
However the easy way is to open a dollar current account because you will be short changed if the finds go to ksh savings a/c
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Nimerudi
#10 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:10:58 AM
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rico14 wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
rico14 wrote:
I never knew that banks check this stuff. But I have never received more than 2k.
When withdrawing from equity was hectic, I felt discriminated by the manger not sure if it was because I was young.
That is why I moved banks :( what a waste it is a nice bank!

why would you involve a manager when withdrawing funds, not sure withdrawing 200k kes is that drastic for any bank in kenya

It was in a savings account I had to sign, have my ID and be verified by the branch manager.
So I go to the branch and she tells me she can't allow me to withdraw without my phone.
I had to go to another branch so as to withdraw you can imagine the struggle and this lady maybe looked at me and thought no way this kid can withdraw, just wow and I was not withdrawing 2k.
I mean't i have never received more than 2k from outside kenya


Same case happened to me last year. Had to produce my phone, and an ATM receipt to confirm identity, alongside the ID, to the branch manager. This was before member introduced the biometrics.
kiash
#11 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 6:16:34 PM
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MunyaoTrader wrote:
I am a kenyan working abroad. I want to confirm, if i wire an equivalent of less than 10,000 us dollars to my kenyan bank account do i really need to show documents to my kenyan bank to proof the source of funds?
Please feel free to advice and share your experiences.


Yeah they do not ask for source of the funds but you have to sign as a proof that you are not money laundaring but that is done online. Well guess it depends on the bank and also the account you are sending from.
Mainat
#12 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 6:44:40 PM
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CBK requires all deposits above one meta to have source declared.
Many banks don't follow the rules
Sehemu ndio nyumba
MunyaoTrader
#13 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2016 1:43:31 PM
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Thank you all for the advice. I will have the documents ready if needed.
Thiong'o
#14 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2016 2:22:51 PM
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The Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) has issued new mandatory guidelines covering additional information that banks are expected to collect from their clients when making deposits and withdrawals greater than or equal to USD 10,000 or its equivalent in other currencies. In line with this, Citibank shall be requesting the following information for all cash deposits and withdrawals exceeding the advised threshold:

1. Why is the large cash deposit or withdrawal necessary?
2. Why can’t the cash deposit or withdrawal be made through electronic means?
3. Where will the money be taken after it leaves the bank premises?
4. What is the money going to be used for?
5. Who will be the direct and indirect beneficiaries of the money?
6. Please provide the full identity of the intended beneficiaries of the money.
7. Please advise the source of the money which is to be deposited or withdrawn over the counter.

The information above will be captured through the attached form for eligible transactions. The guideline takes effect immediately.

The new changes seek to encourage the use of electronic payment methods which help make the payment system secure and eliminate the informality and anonymity inherent in cash transactions. Electronic payments are beneficial to you as they reduce losses due to fraud and theft. In addition, electronic payments provide an audit trail that makes funds traceable in case those risks materialize.

We are pleased to advise that we can assist our clients migrate to electronic means of executing these transactions through the following payment methods, all of which are available at Citi:

1. Electronic Funds Transfers (EFT)
2. Real Time Gross Settlement (RTGS)
3. Mobile Payments and Collections through M-Pesa
4. Cheques (both managers’ and client cheques)
5. Cross border funds transfers (CBFT)
enyands
#15 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2016 2:40:40 PM
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Thiong'o wrote:
The Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) has issued new mandatory guidelines covering additional information that banks are expected to collect from their clients when making deposits and withdrawals greater than or equal to USD 10,000 or its equivalent in other currencies. In line with this, Citibank shall be requesting the following information for all cash deposits and withdrawals exceeding the advised threshold:

1. Why is the large cash deposit or withdrawal necessary?
2. Why can’t the cash deposit or withdrawal be made through electronic means?
3. Where will the money be taken after it leaves the bank premises?
4. What is the money going to be used for?
5. Who will be the direct and indirect beneficiaries of the money?
6. Please provide the full identity of the intended beneficiaries of the money.
7. Please advise the source of the money which is to be deposited or withdrawn over the counter.

The information above will be captured through the attached form for eligible transactions. The guideline takes effect immediately.

The new changes seek to encourage the use of electronic payment methods which help make the payment system secure and eliminate the informality and anonymity inherent in cash transactions. Electronic payments are beneficial to you as they reduce losses due to fraud and theft. In addition, electronic payments provide an audit trail that makes funds traceable in case those risks materialize.

We are pleased to advise that we can assist our clients migrate to electronic means of executing these transactions through the following payment methods, all of which are available at Citi:

1. Electronic Funds Transfers (EFT)
2. Real Time Gross Settlement (RTGS)
3. Mobile Payments and Collections through M-Pesa
4. Cheques (both managers’ and client cheques)
5. Cross border funds transfers (CBFT)



I see innocent kenyans victimized by this process though there could be good intentions. Instead I'll break it down to $9,999.let that dollar kunywa maji than to fill this victimizing form. You see ripple effect ya Obama visit .
So if the money is coming from abroad you have to say source then which mpango is beneficiary so that I can tell my spanner boys to go squeeze money out of mpango or kidnap mpango.this will be a dangerous insider job

TOO INTRUSIVE !!
mkenyan
#16 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2016 5:56:16 PM
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enyands wrote:
Thiong'o wrote:
The Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) has issued new mandatory guidelines covering additional information that banks are expected to collect from their clients when making deposits and withdrawals greater than or equal to USD 10,000 or its equivalent in other currencies. In line with this, Citibank shall be requesting the following information for all cash deposits and withdrawals exceeding the advised threshold:

1. Why is the large cash deposit or withdrawal necessary?
2. Why can’t the cash deposit or withdrawal be made through electronic means?
3. Where will the money be taken after it leaves the bank premises?
4. What is the money going to be used for?
5. Who will be the direct and indirect beneficiaries of the money?
6. Please provide the full identity of the intended beneficiaries of the money.
7. Please advise the source of the money which is to be deposited or withdrawn over the counter.

The information above will be captured through the attached form for eligible transactions. The guideline takes effect immediately.

The new changes seek to encourage the use of electronic payment methods which help make the payment system secure and eliminate the informality and anonymity inherent in cash transactions. Electronic payments are beneficial to you as they reduce losses due to fraud and theft. In addition, electronic payments provide an audit trail that makes funds traceable in case those risks materialize.

We are pleased to advise that we can assist our clients migrate to electronic means of executing these transactions through the following payment methods, all of which are available at Citi:

1. Electronic Funds Transfers (EFT)
2. Real Time Gross Settlement (RTGS)
3. Mobile Payments and Collections through M-Pesa
4. Cheques (both managers’ and client cheques)
5. Cross border funds transfers (CBFT)



I see innocent kenyans victimized by this process though there could be good intentions. Instead I'll break it down to $9,999.let that dollar kunywa maji than to fill this victimizing form. You see ripple effect ya Obama visit .
So if the money is coming from abroad you have to say source then which mpango is beneficiary so that I can tell my spanner boys to go squeeze money out of mpango or kidnap mpango.this will be a dangerous insider job

TOO INTRUSIVE !!

that letter only applies to deposit or withdrawal. not money sent/received by the other means mentioned. now why would you want to carry more than usd 10k in cash to come and deposit it in kenya?
enyands
#17 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2016 5:58:28 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
enyands wrote:
Thiong'o wrote:
The Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) has issued new mandatory guidelines covering additional information that banks are expected to collect from their clients when making deposits and withdrawals greater than or equal to USD 10,000 or its equivalent in other currencies. In line with this, Citibank shall be requesting the following information for all cash deposits and withdrawals exceeding the advised threshold:

1. Why is the large cash deposit or withdrawal necessary?
2. Why can’t the cash deposit or withdrawal be made through electronic means?
3. Where will the money be taken after it leaves the bank premises?
4. What is the money going to be used for?
5. Who will be the direct and indirect beneficiaries of the money?
6. Please provide the full identity of the intended beneficiaries of the money.
7. Please advise the source of the money which is to be deposited or withdrawn over the counter.

The information above will be captured through the attached form for eligible transactions. The guideline takes effect immediately.

The new changes seek to encourage the use of electronic payment methods which help make the payment system secure and eliminate the informality and anonymity inherent in cash transactions. Electronic payments are beneficial to you as they reduce losses due to fraud and theft. In addition, electronic payments provide an audit trail that makes funds traceable in case those risks materialize.

We are pleased to advise that we can assist our clients migrate to electronic means of executing these transactions through the following payment methods, all of which are available at Citi:

1. Electronic Funds Transfers (EFT)
2. Real Time Gross Settlement (RTGS)
3. Mobile Payments and Collections through M-Pesa
4. Cheques (both managers’ and client cheques)
5. Cross border funds transfers (CBFT)



I see innocent kenyans victimized by this process though there could be good intentions. Instead I'll break it down to $9,999.let that dollar kunywa maji than to fill this victimizing form. You see ripple effect ya Obama visit .
So if the money is coming from abroad you have to say source then which mpango is beneficiary so that I can tell my spanner boys to go squeeze money out of mpango or kidnap mpango.this will be a dangerous insider job

TOO INTRUSIVE !!

that letter only applies to deposit or withdrawal. not money sent/received by the other means mentioned. now why would you want to carry more than usd 10k in cash to come and deposit it in kenya?


First of all they won't let you past the american airports
watesh
#18 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2016 8:23:32 PM
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enyands wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
enyands wrote:
Thiong'o wrote:
The Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) has issued new mandatory guidelines covering additional information that banks are expected to collect from their clients when making deposits and withdrawals greater than or equal to USD 10,000 or its equivalent in other currencies. In line with this, Citibank shall be requesting the following information for all cash deposits and withdrawals exceeding the advised threshold:

1. Why is the large cash deposit or withdrawal necessary?
2. Why can’t the cash deposit or withdrawal be made through electronic means?
3. Where will the money be taken after it leaves the bank premises?
4. What is the money going to be used for?
5. Who will be the direct and indirect beneficiaries of the money?
6. Please provide the full identity of the intended beneficiaries of the money.
7. Please advise the source of the money which is to be deposited or withdrawn over the counter.

The information above will be captured through the attached form for eligible transactions. The guideline takes effect immediately.

The new changes seek to encourage the use of electronic payment methods which help make the payment system secure and eliminate the informality and anonymity inherent in cash transactions. Electronic payments are beneficial to you as they reduce losses due to fraud and theft. In addition, electronic payments provide an audit trail that makes funds traceable in case those risks materialize.

We are pleased to advise that we can assist our clients migrate to electronic means of executing these transactions through the following payment methods, all of which are available at Citi:

1. Electronic Funds Transfers (EFT)
2. Real Time Gross Settlement (RTGS)
3. Mobile Payments and Collections through M-Pesa
4. Cheques (both managers’ and client cheques)
5. Cross border funds transfers (CBFT)



I see innocent kenyans victimized by this process though there could be good intentions. Instead I'll break it down to $9,999.let that dollar kunywa maji than to fill this victimizing form. You see ripple effect ya Obama visit .
So if the money is coming from abroad you have to say source then which mpango is beneficiary so that I can tell my spanner boys to go squeeze money out of mpango or kidnap mpango.this will be a dangerous insider job

TOO INTRUSIVE !!

that letter only applies to deposit or withdrawal. not money sent/received by the other means mentioned. now why would you want to carry more than usd 10k in cash to come and deposit it in kenya?


First of all they won't let you past the american airports

TSA will even give you a body cavity search
enyands
#19 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2016 8:58:19 PM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,300
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watesh wrote:
enyands wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
enyands wrote:
Thiong'o wrote:
The Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) has issued new mandatory guidelines covering additional information that banks are expected to collect from their clients when making deposits and withdrawals greater than or equal to USD 10,000 or its equivalent in other currencies. In line with this, Citibank shall be requesting the following information for all cash deposits and withdrawals exceeding the advised threshold:

1. Why is the large cash deposit or withdrawal necessary?
2. Why can’t the cash deposit or withdrawal be made through electronic means?
3. Where will the money be taken after it leaves the bank premises?
4. What is the money going to be used for?
5. Who will be the direct and indirect beneficiaries of the money?
6. Please provide the full identity of the intended beneficiaries of the money.
7. Please advise the source of the money which is to be deposited or withdrawn over the counter.

The information above will be captured through the attached form for eligible transactions. The guideline takes effect immediately.

The new changes seek to encourage the use of electronic payment methods which help make the payment system secure and eliminate the informality and anonymity inherent in cash transactions. Electronic payments are beneficial to you as they reduce losses due to fraud and theft. In addition, electronic payments provide an audit trail that makes funds traceable in case those risks materialize.

We are pleased to advise that we can assist our clients migrate to electronic means of executing these transactions through the following payment methods, all of which are available at Citi:

1. Electronic Funds Transfers (EFT)
2. Real Time Gross Settlement (RTGS)
3. Mobile Payments and Collections through M-Pesa
4. Cheques (both managers’ and client cheques)
5. Cross border funds transfers (CBFT)



I see innocent kenyans victimized by this process though there could be good intentions. Instead I'll break it down to $9,999.let that dollar kunywa maji than to fill this victimizing form. You see ripple effect ya Obama visit .
So if the money is coming from abroad you have to say source then which mpango is beneficiary so that I can tell my spanner boys to go squeeze money out of mpango or kidnap mpango.this will be a dangerous insider job

TOO INTRUSIVE !!

that letter only applies to deposit or withdrawal. not money sent/received by the other means mentioned. now why would you want to carry more than usd 10k in cash to come and deposit it in kenya?


First of all they won't let you past the american airports

TSA will even give you a body cavity search



My Buddy from Ghana was busted with over 10k . Walichukua wakapeleka IRS. Sad story
MunyaoTrader
#20 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 10:03:39 AM
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I am thinking of hard working Kenyans who want to invest back home. They find themselves faced with two choices:

1. Having to justify where you got your money and what you want to do with it.
2. Sending it in smaller amounts thus delaying your projects.
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