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Kenyan Manufacturing
wa P
#91 Posted : Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:04:05 PM
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Who has the patience and precision to wait for manufacturing money to trickle?
Why bother in value addition while I can participate in tender. The net money made will just be nice to buy land, wait for appreciation and sell. The money made I build flats in githurai and kitengela. Proceeds from rent I buy a range rover....

That is the typical disposition of many of us.

The rest will blame government, costs of production etc.

limanika
#92 Posted : Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:17:47 PM
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wa P wrote:
Who has the patience and precision to wait for manufacturing money to trickle?
Why bother in value addition while I can participate in tender. The net money made will just be nice to buy land, wait for appreciation and sell. The money made I build flats in githurai and kitengela. Proceeds from rent I buy a range rover....

That is the typical disposition of many of us.

The rest will blame government, costs of production etc.


And the people to stay in your flats, where would they work??
masukuma
#93 Posted : Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:37:11 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Alba wrote:
masukuma wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
masukuma wrote:
bado tuko talk shop?

Wazua is a talk shop, you can visit the guys at bunge la mwananchi for some talk + action

unless we talk and someone ever does ANYTHING ABOUT IT... we are engaged an intellectual d*ck measuring contest. Unless someone is going to do 1 thing about it! forget the 1000 things @alba, @muchr and co. propose.... JUST ONE THING!! not by some person you know but does not know you (AKA some politician) but by YOU!! just ONE THING!! ONE THING!!


masukuma appears to be very frustrated with his life nowadays. Thats why he is lashing out and acting like a petulant toddler. And he seems obsessed with me in particular. Either that or he is incapable of engaging in intelligent discourse. Everything he says nowadays is just irrational and warped.

@masukuma: Opinions are free. Whether the govt implements them is of no consequence to me. Based on your twisted logic then all Kenyans should stop discussing issues whether at a Christmas party or online or at a bar. According to masukuma, those of you opening interesting threads like this one are basically wasting time because politicians will not do anything. Which leaves me wondering why he even reads through these threads.

This is the height of nonsense. I have said many times before that its up to Kenyans to start voting on issues otherwise politicians will never change. They just divide Kenyans, grab land and eat. Such a revolution can be accomplished online especially social media. Look at Egypt, Ukraine and other places. Look at the tea party and occupy wall street. All those revolutions started online or were energized via online forums.

And even if wazua does'nt accomplish that, once again discussion is free, learning from other forummers is free and people should ignore masukuma and continue discussing issues on wazua and learning about substantive issues from others. Damn the politicians.

Wul off nigga wull off...

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Wendz
#94 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2016 9:44:22 AM
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kazee wrote:
If i manufacturer something locally, would it be a crime to put the Kenyan shield (the shield with two spears in Kenyan flag colours) on the packaging?
Secondly, how hard/easy is it to convince supermarkets to stock one's product?


Its not hard as long as it is appealing, practical and reasonably priced. Supermarkets are there to make money
hardwood
#95 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2016 10:31:02 AM
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How have muhindis managed to succeed in manufacturing while nyeuthi hasn't? Muhindi makes nearly everything in kenya - cement, mabati, nails, paint, soap, mkate, cooking oil, toilet paper, school uniforms, tyres, bottled water, juices, ice cream etc etc. They are even some of the largest fruit, vegetable and flower growers and exporters.

So how come muhindi has made it but not nyeuthi?
sitaki.kujulikana
#96 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2016 12:49:44 PM
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hardwood wrote:
How have muhindis managed to succeed in manufacturing while nyeuthi hasn't? Muhindi makes nearly everything in kenya - cement, mabati, nails, paint, soap, mkate, cooking oil, toilet paper, school uniforms, tyres, bottled water, juices, ice cream etc etc. They are even some of the largest fruit, vegetable and flower growers and exporters.

So how come muhindi has made it but not nyeuthi?

access to capital and an entrepreneurial mindset which is passed down to the children, at least for the older generation. Plus a lack of obsession with land, and exams.
masukuma
#97 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2016 1:50:07 PM
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Wendz wrote:
kazee wrote:
If i manufacturer something locally, would it be a crime to put the Kenyan shield (the shield with two spears in Kenyan flag colours) on the packaging?
Secondly, how hard/easy is it to convince supermarkets to stock one's product?


It's not hard as long as it is appealing, practical and reasonably priced. Supermarkets are there to make money

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly that's an oxymoron...right there!! VERSION 0.0.1 will always be garbage and will not be reasonably priced but someone needs to buy it so that the capacity is built to build 'cheaper/faster/better' .
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#98 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2016 1:54:06 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How have muhindis managed to succeed in manufacturing while nyeuthi hasn't? Muhindi makes nearly everything in kenya - cement, mabati, nails, paint, soap, mkate, cooking oil, toilet paper, school uniforms, tyres, bottled water, juices, ice cream etc etc. They are even some of the largest fruit, vegetable and flower growers and exporters.

So how come muhindi has made it but not nyeuthi?

access to capital and an entrepreneurial mindset which is passed down to the children, at least for the older generation. Plus a lack of obsession with land, and exams.

and lack of excuses and obsession with politics!! I asked once... why hasn't the most 'educated', 'richest' ethnic group in kenya ever had a president or even ministerial position? they are also really poorly represented in gava (supposedly the place that makes 'tribes' richer than others)? tuwache excuses and tufanye kitu... wewe fanya kitu moja wachia siasa wanasiasa!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Othelo
#99 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2016 2:04:01 PM
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masukuma wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How have muhindis managed to succeed in manufacturing while nyeuthi hasn't? Muhindi makes nearly everything in kenya - cement, mabati, nails, paint, soap, mkate, cooking oil, toilet paper, school uniforms, tyres, bottled water, juices, ice cream etc etc. They are even some of the largest fruit, vegetable and flower growers and exporters.

So how come muhindi has made it but not nyeuthi?

access to capital and an entrepreneurial mindset which is passed down to the children, at least for the older generation. Plus a lack of obsession with land, and exams.

and lack of excuses and obsession with politics!! I asked once... why hasn't the most 'educated', 'richest' ethnic group in kenya ever had a president or even ministerial position? they are also really poorly represented in gava (supposedly the place that makes 'tribes' richer than others)? tuwache excuses and tufanye kitu... wewe fanya kitu moja wachia siasa wanasiasa!

@masukuma since you left chickenmate smile you have become very sober in your reasoning!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Alba
#100 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2016 5:46:49 PM
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masukuma wrote:

and lack of excuses and obsession with politics!! I asked once... why hasn't the most 'educated', 'richest' ethnic group in kenya ever had a president or even ministerial position? they are also really poorly represented in gava (supposedly the place that makes 'tribes' richer than others)? tuwache excuses and tufanye kitu... wewe fanya kitu moja wachia siasa wanasiasa!



I have to point out how bogus this paragraph is.

The fact that muhindi is succeeding does not preclude others from saying we can do better. Something as simple as alleviating traffic by building better roads can enhance industrialization by making it cheaper to move raw materials and goods around.

Are you suggesting that Kenyans cannot demand that gava spend money on better roads?

Secondly its not just muhindi who succeeds. There are numerous non-muhindis who have formed succesful industries. What about Tabitha Karanja among others?

If we leave siasa alone as you suggest then people should not even bother voting. Why vote when you do not understand the issues?

Also the real reason Kenyan muhindi does not openly engage in siasa is because they are too few and in the past there was significant backlash against them in the past. See what Iddi Amin did to muhindi in Uganda. See what Kenyatta gava did to Pio gama pinto. That was the event that chilled muhindi in Kenya and Uganda. There was an article in the papers a few years ago explaining why Kenyan muhindi does not engage in overt politics.

When muhindis feel safe, they have no problem politicking. In Guyana, 4 out of 9 presidents have been Indian. In Mauritius about 5 out of 11 presidents have been wahindi.

In America today, 2 out of 50 governors are wahindi. Nikki Haley is a strong candidate to become VP in 2016 and possibly run for president in 2020. She can win even now.

Clearly Indians are also obsessed with politics and politicking which has not stopped them from being successful industrialists. These guys succeed in business wherever they are be it America, the UK or Guyana . So the notion that they succeed because they do not engage in siasa is just more bogus nonsense from you.

Seriously sometimes I wonder whats going in that brain of yours. With you its just one clueless idea after another. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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