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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]@Obiero - The issue is not that you lost money on KQ. I did too. The issue is you may have lured other unsuspecting folks into a position that was untenable. At one point, it made me wonder if you were on Alex's payroll. Or a pump-and-dump guy. BTW, http://www.businessdaily...6/-/w30thq/-/index.html[/quote] Ditto, I also bailed at a lost. What I find baffling is that @Obiero insists KQ is a good investment. Not at all. I have lost faith in the share, but not the company. It may sound strange, but its possible.. Ama you want me to expound Expound. Flying is a lifestyle. Obiero's brothers would rather do an harambee to bail out KQ than let it die  @sparkly when a child is sick and needs a complex surgery or a student is admitted to harvard, they shall not use a matatu to india or usa.. intra country trade also necessitates travel, so usinipandishe pressure na hio term, lifestyle!! @vvs evaluating a company is done using a wholesome approach which relies on examination of the global and economic environment. Conversely, the aim of evaluating a stock is to
determine when it is best to buy or sell,
without focusing lovingly on the company in itself.. i.e. just because the results of an evaluation of a company might be
positive, it doesn't mean that the evaluation of its stock is
a "buy" and vice versa e.g if KK was to trade at KES 20 bob by tomorrow, most would sell, not because the company is bad, but because the stock price would have outstripped rationality Agreed. And KQ the company with negative 32bn in equity is doing awful. And the share price of 5/- is wildly over-priced. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]@Obiero - The issue is not that you lost money on KQ. I did too. The issue is you may have lured other unsuspecting folks into a position that was untenable. At one point, it made me wonder if you were on Alex's payroll. Or a pump-and-dump guy. BTW, http://www.businessdaily...6/-/w30thq/-/index.html[/quote] Ditto, I also bailed at a lost. What I find baffling is that @Obiero insists KQ is a good investment. Not at all. I have lost faith in the share, but not the company. It may sound strange, but its possible.. Ama you want me to expound Expound. Flying is a lifestyle. Obiero's brothers would rather do an harambee to bail out KQ than let it die @sparkly when a child is sick and needs a complex surgery or a student is admitted to harvard, they shall not use a matatu to india or usa.. intra country trade also necessitates travel, so usinipandishe pressure na hio term, lifestyle!! @vvs evaluating a company is done using a wholesome approach which relies on examination of the global and economic environment. Conversely, the aim of evaluating a stock is to
determine when it is best to buy or sell,
without focusing lovingly on the company in itself.. i.e. just because the results of an evaluation of a company might be
positive, it doesn't mean that the evaluation of its stock is
a "buy" and vice versa e.g if KK was to trade at KES 20 bob by tomorrow, most would sell, not because the company is bad, but because the stock price would have outstripped rationality Agreed. And KQ the company with negative 32bn in equity is doing awful. And the share price of 5/- is wildly over-priced. For the moment. Trouble only lasts for a while.. If your pal Naikuni hadnt taken off with the loot, we would be in 7th heaven
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]@Obiero - The issue is not that you lost money on KQ. I did too. The issue is you may have lured other unsuspecting folks into a position that was untenable. At one point, it made me wonder if you were on Alex's payroll. Or a pump-and-dump guy. BTW, http://www.businessdaily...6/-/w30thq/-/index.html[/quote] Ditto, I also bailed at a lost. What I find baffling is that @Obiero insists KQ is a good investment. Not at all. I have lost faith in the share, but not the company. It may sound strange, but its possible.. Ama you want me to expound Expound. Flying is a lifestyle. Obiero's brothers would rather do an harambee to bail out KQ than let it die @sparkly when a child is sick and needs a complex surgery or a student is admitted to harvard, they shall not use a matatu to india or usa.. intra country trade also necessitates travel, so usinipandishe pressure na hio term, lifestyle!! @vvs evaluating a company is done using a wholesome approach which relies on examination of the global and economic environment. Conversely, the aim of evaluating a stock is to
determine when it is best to buy or sell,
without focusing lovingly on the company in itself.. i.e. just because the results of an evaluation of a company might be
positive, it doesn't mean that the evaluation of its stock is
a "buy" and vice versa e.g if KK was to trade at KES 20 bob by tomorrow, most would sell, not because the company is bad, but because the stock price would have outstripped rationality Agreed. And KQ the company with negative 32bn in equity is doing awful. And the share price of 5/- is wildly over-priced. For the moment. Trouble only lasts for a while.. If your pal Naikuni hadnt taken off with the loot, we would be in 7th heaven So now Naikuni is my pal? Kutoka lini? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Aguytrying wrote:@Obiero. I fear that their is something fundamentally wrong with your stocks investment strategy. But you either give up too quickly on good stocks eg. Hfck, KenRe. Or hold on too long to junk stocks like KQ. The solution would be among other things to soften your stance when loosing and harden your stance when winning. My 2 cents @Aguy you have spoken well. I have nothing more useful to add to this debate. @sparkly. Please avoid selective reasoning, also speak of my outing with Centum, KCB, COOP.. However, I shall consider your words of wisdom and may take them seriously once im convinced of the alleged flaw in my strategy @Obiero you have excellent skill in picking out gems but I think you owe @aguy some fees for for the advice. Btw your words in November 2013... obiero wrote:
averaging down safaricom by huge purchases to kes 4.6 and eventually selling at kes 3.8 when it started taking a dive.. I should have held on coz fundamentals hadnt changed significantly. I panicked. That was my worst mistake
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Aguytrying wrote:@Obiero. I fear that their is something fundamentally wrong with your stocks investment strategy. But you either give up too quickly on good stocks eg. Hfck, KenRe. Or hold on too long to junk stocks like KQ. The solution would be among other things to soften your stance when loosing and harden your stance when winning. My 2 cents @Aguy you have spoken well. I have nothing more useful to add to this debate. @sparkly. Please avoid selective reasoning, also speak of my outing with Centum, KCB, COOP.. However, I shall consider your words of wisdom and may take them seriously once im convinced of the alleged flaw in my strategy @Obiero you have excellent skill in picking out gems but I think you owe @aguy some fees for for the advice. Btw your words in November 2013... obiero wrote:
averaging down safaricom by huge purchases to kes 4.6 and eventually selling at kes 3.8 when it started taking a dive.. I should have held on coz fundamentals hadnt changed significantly. I panicked. That was my worst mistake
oh. so it was @aguy throwing stones. sikusoma poa. it didnt seem like you at all. i know @sparkly as a gentleman, unlike @vvs @qw @aguy.. all said and done, I have made money on the NSE, USE & RSE; and shall aim to continue.. 
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Kayole
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INTERESTING! wrote:shrewdinvestor wrote:And why is no elder mentioning CIC?I have 2 brokers who have put it into September list?Are they too blind to see the growth potential in this company? My friend, if a broker offers you a stock, please look at it, look at it again and again and again and again and again and then ask what their interest is in that recommendation. It could be: 1) for their own interest 2) for another's interest (may be the company they are recommending you to buy) 3) for other clients interest (may be other clients want to sell and they need to create demand) I will never believe that a broker in any part of this world...and especially in Kenya...is working in my interests. Please do your research, homework, term papers, thesis then decide whether that stock is good for you... Beware of the slaughter house...where buyers are shown fresh succulent slices of meat...they are attracted to them and then when you take them home to cook, they will turn out to be old bones in red paint...like those who bought Home Afrika! Fahari, Deacons, NBV etc following Home Afrika path KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
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