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The Tragedy that is public healthcare in Kenya
sitaki.kujulikana
#21 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 12:20:10 PM
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newfarer wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Grave(literally) issues raised here.It is the duty of every one of us to make sure that we will not Vote for a candidate just because he is from our tribes but vote for him on the basis of how he intents to handle these issues.




May 2011 Dec 2015 same song, Kenyans never learn, shauri yetu.

maybe the medics can give a better insight on the process of handling such cases. But the guy talking back seems like he is overworked, he is handling a patient and at the same time is needed to receive another one.

But you have to admit there have been major improvements especially at that hospital since 2011.
newfarer
#22 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 12:30:17 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
newfarer wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Grave(literally) issues raised here.It is the duty of every one of us to make sure that we will not Vote for a candidate just because he is from our tribes but vote for him on the basis of how he intents to handle these issues.




May 2011 Dec 2015 same song, Kenyans never learn, shauri yetu.

maybe the medics can give a better insight on the process of handling such cases. But the guy talking back seems like he is overworked, he is handling a patient and at the same time is needed to receive another one.

But you have to admit there have been major improvements especially at that hospital since 2011.

Is it?
www.nation.co.ke/news/Am...38/-/t0wnk8/-/index.html
punda amecheka
sitaki.kujulikana
#23 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 12:45:09 PM
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newfarer wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
newfarer wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Grave(literally) issues raised here.It is the duty of every one of us to make sure that we will not Vote for a candidate just because he is from our tribes but vote for him on the basis of how he intents to handle these issues.




May 2011 Dec 2015 same song, Kenyans never learn, shauri yetu.

maybe the medics can give a better insight on the process of handling such cases. But the guy talking back seems like he is overworked, he is handling a patient and at the same time is needed to receive another one.

But you have to admit there have been major improvements especially at that hospital since 2011.

Is it?
www.nation.co.ke/news/Am...38/-/t0wnk8/-/index.html

the clip mentions that as machakos level 5 not knh, but even if you look at the video, as the man walks out 2 medics (guys in white coats) are moving another patient on a stretcher inside, if you have a patient its understandable that you would want attention immediately, but I am sure there are processes.

Plus if you compare the state of that hospital in 2011 and now there is a massive improvement.

The case of Maganda was a lack of available space at the ICU.
masukuma
#24 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 12:53:04 PM
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Huyo jamaa awache ujeuri pia yeye!!
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I am a medic

vaa gloves basi!! watu waache tumadharau tafadhali! Watu waachane na patients wengine wakufuate? Kama alimokota kwa barabara mbona asiende the next step? This is not to absolve the medics but huyu jamaa awache fujo... the whole hospital does not stand still coz yeye ameleta mgonjwa!
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sitaki.kujulikana
#25 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 12:54:34 PM
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murchr wrote:
In this day of devices and gadgets with cameras, what is done in the dark shall be brought to light.


With all due respect the guy just wants to score a cheap point against the medics.

I don't think its fair to label the said medics as reluctant to help.
FRM2011
#26 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 1:26:35 PM
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Impunity wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
I heard a very scary incident the other day. A guy gets into an accident and the first group at the scene steals everything including his phone and medical insurance.

So good Samaritans take him to KNH. And your chances of survival as an accident victim at knh are way too low. So a guy with an outpatient limit of 1m and inpatient of 5m died just like that for lack of emergency treatment.

May be it's time insurance companies introduced a wrist band.


They should have taken him to Nairobi or Aga Khan... a mere check of his name in the system would have shown he is covered!
Kwanza most private hospitals fully cover accidents!

@impunity, the patient was unconscious and his wallet is gone. The good Samaritans were strangers and couldn't know his name.

Guess the key lesson is that we should all be concerned about the state of things at KNH.
Swenani
#27 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 1:37:58 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Huyo jamaa awache ujeuri pia yeye!!
Quote:
I am a medic

vaa gloves basi!! watu waache tumadharau tafadhali! Watu waachane na patients wengine wakufuate? Kama alimokota kwa barabara mbona asiende the next step? This is not to absolve the medics but huyu jamaa awache fujo... the whole hospital does not stand still coz yeye ameleta mgonjwa!


The question is,Did the hospital works respond appropriately to the situation(accident victim)?

The guy's ego is a non-issue in this situation
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
masukuma
#28 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 2:41:20 PM
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Swenani wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Huyo jamaa awache ujeuri pia yeye!!
Quote:
I am a medic

vaa gloves basi!! watu waache tumadharau tafadhali! Watu waachane na patients wengine wakufuate? Kama alimokota kwa barabara mbona asiende the next step? This is not to absolve the medics but huyu jamaa awache fujo... the whole hospital does not stand still coz yeye ameleta mgonjwa!


The question is,Did the hospital works respond appropriately to the situation(accident victim)?

The guy's ego is a non-issue in this situation

yeah they did...unless I missed something - they sent out a guy to go bring the person in! ama hukuona? there were some other people to bring in others. Ama he was expecting the hospital to come to a stand still since he brought a patient he deemed to be an emergency patient?
ama he was expecting something close to this?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
sitaki.kujulikana
#29 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 3:04:48 PM
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Swenani wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Huyo jamaa awache ujeuri pia yeye!!
Quote:
I am a medic

vaa gloves basi!! watu waache tumadharau tafadhali! Watu waachane na patients wengine wakufuate? Kama alimokota kwa barabara mbona asiende the next step? This is not to absolve the medics but huyu jamaa awache fujo... the whole hospital does not stand still coz yeye ameleta mgonjwa!


The question is,Did the hospital works respond appropriately to the situation(accident victim)?

The guy's ego is a non-issue in this situation

The guys ego is a big issue, claiming you are a medic to get attention is plain stupid, but to some egotism is embedded in them, he is just thirsty for some minutes of fame, who walks in hospital phone in record mode. That's the first thing he thought when he walked in.

The medic continually tell him there is someone to help, but he keeps insisting ' this is how you work'

Just because the guy who was there to respond first did not fit his deluded description of a medic.

may the gods who were watching over the other patients strike him, and the gods of the medics whip him with stethoscopes and may his egoistical gods be rendered useless.
Swenani
#30 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 4:09:38 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Swenani wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Huyo jamaa awache ujeuri pia yeye!!
Quote:
I am a medic

vaa gloves basi!! watu waache tumadharau tafadhali! Watu waachane na patients wengine wakufuate? Kama alimokota kwa barabara mbona asiende the next step? This is not to absolve the medics but huyu jamaa awache fujo... the whole hospital does not stand still coz yeye ameleta mgonjwa!


The question is,Did the hospital works respond appropriately to the situation(accident victim)?

The guy's ego is a non-issue in this situation

yeah they did...unless I missed something - they sent out a guy to go bring the person in! ama hukuona? there were some other people to bring in others. Ama he was expecting the hospital to come to a stand still since he brought a patient he deemed to be an emergency patient?
ama he was expecting something close to this?


I didn't watch the clip,kwa hivyo sikuona,If the medical team acted appropriately,why are people discussing the "good samaritan" and the victim? Can we move?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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