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Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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In a normal functional market with a sober regulator, KQ stock would have already been suspended from trading. The market regulator would've have been all over their face with tough measures on how they plan to dig out of the negative equity position. This stories about gok bailout are just stories! This firm should be let to fail. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt Why not? The government of the day is preaching performance. Is it exceptional with KQ! ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. LinkLife is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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hisah wrote:In a normal functional market with a sober regulator, KQ stock would have already been suspended from trading. The market regulator would've have been all over their face with tough measures on how they plan to dig out of the negative equity position. This stories about gok bailout are just stories! This firm should be let to fail. The NSE is far from normal HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered. To me, thats not a lot of money, I wonder what all the fus is about. I also disclosed to wazua when I lost a property worth 2m in Kitengela.. Hizi vitu hufanyika! HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered... I disagree. Investing is about growth of money. Minimum return when investing should be the risk free rate which is now ~13.5%. Any "investment" entered without an expectation of a gain or even worse with an expectation of loss of capital is not an investment. It is a gamble/speculation just like happens in a casino. The dictionary seems to agree... in·vest /inˈvest/ verb expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered. To me, thats not a lot of money, I wonder what all the fus is about. I also disclosed to wazua when I lost a property worth 2m in Kitengela.. Hizi vitu hufanyika! Warren Buffett's rules of investing. 1. Do not lose money. 2. Look at Rule 1. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered... I disagree. Investing is about growth of money. Minimum return when investing should be the risk free rate which is now ~13.5%. Any "investment" entered without an expectation of a gain or even worse with an expectation of loss of capital is not an investment. It is a gamble/speculation just like happens in a casino. The dictionary seems to agree... in·vest /inˈvest/ verb expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. SMH.. Clearly, you guys are lacking in content. Who mentioned that you expect a loss. The words wr, 'an aspect that must be considered'.. Shares rise, shares fall. Even Buffet himself takes massive knocks. Research a little, since the man himself has in 2015 lost over USD 2 billion in a deadly stocks slide and he is known to have said, ''unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic stricken, you should not be in the stock market.” 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered... I disagree. Investing is about growth of money. Minimum return when investing should be the risk free rate which is now ~13.5%. Any "investment" entered without an expectation of a gain or even worse with an expectation of loss of capital is not an investment. It is a gamble/speculation just like happens in a casino. The dictionary seems to agree... in·vest /inˈvest/ verb expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. SMH.. Clearly, you guys are lacking in content. Who mentioned that you expect a loss. The words wr, 'an aspect that must be considered'.. Shares rise, shares fall. Even Buffet himself takes massive knocks. Research a little, since the man himself has in 2015 lost over USD 2 billion in a deadly stocks slide and he is known to have said, ''unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic stricken, you should not be in the stock market.” 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss Buffet has not lost $2B because he has not sold. paper gains/losses are not real gains/losses. A gain is made upon receipt of a dividend or a sale and a loss is made upon a sale. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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Buffett has lost some. He has won more. @sparkly - He did sell out the Tesco when he felt the Management wasn't cutting the mustard. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered... I disagree. Investing is about growth of money. Minimum return when investing should be the risk free rate which is now ~13.5%. Any "investment" entered without an expectation of a gain or even worse with an expectation of loss of capital is not an investment. It is a gamble/speculation just like happens in a casino. The dictionary seems to agree... in·vest /inˈvest/ verb expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. SMH.. Clearly, you guys are lacking in content. Who mentioned that you expect a loss. The words wr, 'an aspect that must be considered'.. Shares rise, shares fall. Even Buffet himself takes massive knocks. Research a little, since the man himself has in 2015 lost over USD 2 billion in a deadly stocks slide and he is known to have said, ''unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic stricken, you should not be in the stock market.” 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss Buffet has not lost $2B because he has not sold. paper gains/losses are not real gains/losses. A gain is made upon receipt of a dividend or a sale and a loss is made upon a sale. Huyu @sparkly is a funny man. Hata after placing the link on Tesco and Walmart u insist he hasnt sold.. SMDH HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered... I disagree. Investing is about growth of money. Minimum return when investing should be the risk free rate which is now ~13.5%. Any "investment" entered without an expectation of a gain or even worse with an expectation of loss of capital is not an investment. It is a gamble/speculation just like happens in a casino. The dictionary seems to agree... in·vest /inˈvest/ verb expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. SMH.. Clearly, you guys are lacking in content. Who mentioned that you expect a loss. The words wr, 'an aspect that must be considered'.. Shares rise, shares fall. Even Buffet himself takes massive knocks. Research a little, since the man himself has in 2015 lost over USD 2 billion in a deadly stocks slide and he is known to have said, ''unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic stricken, you should not be in the stock market.” 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss Buffet has not lost $2B because he has not sold. paper gains/losses are not real gains/losses. A gain is made upon receipt of a dividend or a sale and a loss is made upon a sale. Huyu @sparkly is a funny man. Hata after placing the link on Tesco and Walmart u insist he hasnt sold.. SMDH @Obiero - Has Buffett actually sold the IBM or Walmart shares? The articles did not seem to indicate he sold these shares so @sparkly is right that these are 'paper losses' ... On Tesco, he reported selling the shares, at a loss, in the Annual Report. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered... I disagree. Investing is about growth of money. Minimum return when investing should be the risk free rate which is now ~13.5%. Any "investment" entered without an expectation of a gain or even worse with an expectation of loss of capital is not an investment. It is a gamble/speculation just like happens in a casino. The dictionary seems to agree... in·vest /inˈvest/ verb expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. SMH.. Clearly, you guys are lacking in content. Who mentioned that you expect a loss. The words wr, 'an aspect that must be considered'.. Shares rise, shares fall. Even Buffet himself takes massive knocks. Research a little, since the man himself has in 2015 lost over USD 2 billion in a deadly stocks slide and he is known to have said, ''unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic stricken, you should not be in the stock market.” 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss Buffet has not lost $2B because he has not sold. paper gains/losses are not real gains/losses. A gain is made upon receipt of a dividend or a sale and a loss is made upon a sale. Huyu @sparkly is a funny man. Hata after placing the link on Tesco and Walmart u insist he hasnt sold.. SMDH I have read the IBM and Walmart links again. I can't see any statement saying WB sold the holdings and realized the losses. The TESCO link not opening on my device. I statements to the effect that he has taken very long term views of the investments. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered... I disagree. Investing is about growth of money. Minimum return when investing should be the risk free rate which is now ~13.5%. Any "investment" entered without an expectation of a gain or even worse with an expectation of loss of capital is not an investment. It is a gamble/speculation just like happens in a casino. The dictionary seems to agree... in·vest /inˈvest/ verb expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. SMH.. Clearly, you guys are lacking in content. Who mentioned that you expect a loss. The words wr, 'an aspect that must be considered'.. Shares rise, shares fall. Even Buffet himself takes massive knocks. Research a little, since the man himself has in 2015 lost over USD 2 billion in a deadly stocks slide and he is known to have said, ''unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic stricken, you should not be in the stock market.” 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss Buffet has not lost $2B because he has not sold. paper gains/losses are not real gains/losses. A gain is made upon receipt of a dividend or a sale and a loss is made upon a sale. Huyu @sparkly is a funny man. Hata after placing the link on Tesco and Walmart u insist he hasnt sold.. SMDH I have read the IBM and Walmart links again. I can't see any statement saying WB sold the holdings and realized the losses. The TESCO link not opening on my device. I statements to the effect that he has taken very long term views of the investments. Warren Buffett Sells Goldman Sachs and Walmart Shares By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS NOVEMBER 16, 2015 Investors could well be asking whether Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A) made a rare error in judgment. Both Walmart (WMT) and American Express (AXP) sank to 52-week lows in recent sessions, at a time when the overall market has recovered quite nicely from its sharp selloffs of August and September. Walmart On Oct. 14, shares of Walmart plummeted 10%, their biggest single-day drop in 25 years. Buffett had acquired a meager 0.5% stake in Walmart at roughly $47 per share way back in 2005. By 2009, his holdings had doubled to nearly 39 million shares and by 2014, his 2.1% stake in the company was worth more than $5 billion. In 2015, he added another $800 million to his portfolio at $75 per share. Walmart's shares were trading Thursday morning at $57.31, not far above their 52-week low of $56.77. They have declined 33% year to date and are roughly at 7% less than Buffett's average purchase price of $69.66 per share. As the 2008 credit crisis surfaced, Walmart reinvested less and less of its operating cash flows, with the rest being accounted for by dividends and share repurchases. In 2011, the payout ratio increased to 80%, as the company returned $19 billion to its shareholders. This lack of investment could now be haunting the company. Berkshire Hathaway, owned by the billionaire Warren E. Buffett, sold some of its Goldman Sachs and Walmart shares during the third quarter, and made several smaller changes to its stock portfolio, according to a report filed on Monday with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Mr. Buffett said on CNBC that the main reason he reduced Berkshire’s Walmart and Goldman stakes was to generate cash for his $32 billion acquisition of Precision Castparts, which is expected to close next year. Berkshire sold 13 percent of its 12.6 million Goldman shares and 7 percent of its 60.4 million Walmart shares. HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered... I disagree. Investing is about growth of money. Minimum return when investing should be the risk free rate which is now ~13.5%. Any "investment" entered without an expectation of a gain or even worse with an expectation of loss of capital is not an investment. It is a gamble/speculation just like happens in a casino. The dictionary seems to agree... in·vest /inˈvest/ verb expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. SMH.. Clearly, you guys are lacking in content. Who mentioned that you expect a loss. The words wr, 'an aspect that must be considered'.. Shares rise, shares fall. Even Buffet himself takes massive knocks. Research a little, since the man himself has in 2015 lost over USD 2 billion in a deadly stocks slide and he is known to have said, ''unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic stricken, you should not be in the stock market.” 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss Buffet has not lost $2B because he has not sold. paper gains/losses are not real gains/losses. A gain is made upon receipt of a dividend or a sale and a loss is made upon a sale. Huyu @sparkly is a funny man. Hata after placing the link on Tesco and Walmart u insist he hasnt sold.. SMDH I have read the IBM and Walmart links again. I can't see any statement saying WB sold the holdings and realized the losses. The TESCO link not opening on my device. I statements to the effect that he has taken very long term views of the investments. Warren Buffett Sells Goldman Sachs and Walmart Shares By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS NOVEMBER 16, 2015 Investors could well be asking whether Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A) made a rare error in judgment. Both Walmart (WMT) and American Express (AXP) sank to 52-week lows in recent sessions, at a time when the overall market has recovered quite nicely from its sharp selloffs of August and September. Walmart On Oct. 14, shares of Walmart plummeted 10%, their biggest single-day drop in 25 years. Buffett had acquired a meager 0.5% stake in Walmart at roughly $47 per share way back in 2005. By 2009, his holdings had doubled to nearly 39 million shares and by 2014, his 2.1% stake in the company was worth more than $5 billion. In 2015, he added another $800 million to his portfolio at $75 per share. Walmart's shares were trading Thursday morning at $57.31, not far above their 52-week low of $56.77. They have declined 33% year to date and are roughly at 7% less than Buffett's average purchase price of $69.66 per share. As the 2008 credit crisis surfaced, Walmart reinvested less and less of its operating cash flows, with the rest being accounted for by dividends and share repurchases. In 2011, the payout ratio increased to 80%, as the company returned $19 billion to its shareholders. This lack of investment could now be haunting the company. Berkshire Hathaway, owned by the billionaire Warren E. Buffett, sold some of its Goldman Sachs and Walmart shares during the third quarter, and made several smaller changes to its stock portfolio, according to a report filed on Monday with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Mr. Buffett said on CNBC that the main reason he reduced Berkshire’s Walmart and Goldman stakes was to generate cash for his $32 billion acquisition of Precision Castparts, which is expected to close next year. Berkshire sold 13 percent of its 12.6 million Goldman shares and 7 percent of its 60.4 million Walmart shares. So WB sold some [not all] of BH's WM shares. And he sold them to pay for Precision Castings. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Delisting impossible! 100% agreed. Bankruptcy/ liquidation is very possible, its the norm rather than exception in the airline industry. Generalisation wont help. The question here is simple and plain.. Will GoK allow KQ to be liquidated/declared bankrupt @Obiero you need help. To start you off, there is the concept of the "seven step process of acceptance". But worry not, you are at the bargaining phase, just one step from acceptance that your Money is gone... poof... gone. Link In stock investing, losing money is an aspect that must be considered... I disagree. Investing is about growth of money. Minimum return when investing should be the risk free rate which is now ~13.5%. Any "investment" entered without an expectation of a gain or even worse with an expectation of loss of capital is not an investment. It is a gamble/speculation just like happens in a casino. The dictionary seems to agree... in·vest /inˈvest/ verb expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. SMH.. Clearly, you guys are lacking in content. Who mentioned that you expect a loss. The words wr, 'an aspect that must be considered'.. Shares rise, shares fall. Even Buffet himself takes massive knocks. Research a little, since the man himself has in 2015 lost over USD 2 billion in a deadly stocks slide and he is known to have said, ''unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic stricken, you should not be in the stock market.” 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss Buffet has not lost $2B because he has not sold. paper gains/losses are not real gains/losses. A gain is made upon receipt of a dividend or a sale and a loss is made upon a sale. Huyu @sparkly is a funny man. Hata after placing the link on Tesco and Walmart u insist he hasnt sold.. SMDH I have read the IBM and Walmart links again. I can't see any statement saying WB sold the holdings and realized the losses. The TESCO link not opening on my device. I statements to the effect that he has taken very long term views of the investments. Warren Buffett Sells Goldman Sachs and Walmart Shares By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS NOVEMBER 16, 2015 Investors could well be asking whether Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A) made a rare error in judgment. Both Walmart (WMT) and American Express (AXP) sank to 52-week lows in recent sessions, at a time when the overall market has recovered quite nicely from its sharp selloffs of August and September. Walmart On Oct. 14, shares of Walmart plummeted 10%, their biggest single-day drop in 25 years. Buffett had acquired a meager 0.5% stake in Walmart at roughly $47 per share way back in 2005. By 2009, his holdings had doubled to nearly 39 million shares and by 2014, his 2.1% stake in the company was worth more than $5 billion. In 2015, he added another $800 million to his portfolio at $75 per share. Walmart's shares were trading Thursday morning at $57.31, not far above their 52-week low of $56.77. They have declined 33% year to date and are roughly at 7% less than Buffett's average purchase price of $69.66 per share. As the 2008 credit crisis surfaced, Walmart reinvested less and less of its operating cash flows, with the rest being accounted for by dividends and share repurchases. In 2011, the payout ratio increased to 80%, as the company returned $19 billion to its shareholders. This lack of investment could now be haunting the company. Berkshire Hathaway, owned by the billionaire Warren E. Buffett, sold some of its Goldman Sachs and Walmart shares during the third quarter, and made several smaller changes to its stock portfolio, according to a report filed on Monday with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Mr. Buffett said on CNBC that the main reason he reduced Berkshire’s Walmart and Goldman stakes was to generate cash for his $32 billion acquisition of Precision Castparts, which is expected to close next year. Berkshire sold 13 percent of its 12.6 million Goldman shares and 7 percent of its 60.4 million Walmart shares. So WB sold some [not all] of BH's WM shares. And he sold them to pay for Precision Castings. Hehe. U practise selective reading?? Unanchesha kweli.. Argument sasa imesonga to why he sold? SMDH HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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in a span of only 10 months, hii mungu yenu inayoitwa buffet invested in three separate firms that almost immediately issued profit warnings and/or missed revenue targets.. stocks respect no one, ben graham also having been knocked a couple of times. to new investors at the NSE and beyond: enter the market with eyes wide open, you can either gain or loose at any stock market.. HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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