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Yaani Eurobond billions are finished?
mwenza
#161 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 12:53:09 PM
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limanika wrote:
I hope mullah is right coz I want this thing behind us. But some questions still remain. 1) If the only eurobond money in cbk account is 140b, what happened to 56b (196-140)? 2) if domestic borrowing in 2014/15 was only 110b compared to 201 the previousFY, why didn't interest rates plummet? 3) can we get breakdown how the money was spent?


You have raised some very pertinent issues. Now waiting for Wazua spin doctors aka team#36 to respond.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
sitaki.kujulikana
#162 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 1:02:04 PM
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mwenza wrote:
limanika wrote:
I hope mullah is right coz I want this thing behind us. But some questions still remain. 1) If the only eurobond money in cbk account is 140b, what happened to 56b (196-140)? 2) if domestic borrowing in 2014/15 was only 110b compared to 201 the previousFY, why didn't interest rates plummet? 3) can we get breakdown how the money was spent?


You have raised some very pertinent issues. Now waiting for Wazua spin doctors aka team#36 to respond.

Its healthy for a debate to have individuals on the opposite side, imagine if this thread was just you @lma1 and @limanika just saying money was stolen, rot is a thief e.t.c it would be boring.
limanika
#163 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:21:55 PM
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What a confession. So, some guys just argue for the sake.
mugo2of3
#164 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:25:49 PM
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alma1 wrote:
limanika wrote:
I hope mullah is right coz I want this thing behind us. But some questions still remain. 1) If the only eurobond money in cbk account is 140b, what happened to 56b (196-140)? 2) if domestic borrowing in 2014/15 was only 110b compared to 201 the previousFY, why didn't interest rates plummet? 3) can we get breakdown how the money was spent?


Always never believe grand mullah. It's good for your health.

I too don't want to believe this but as I have said earlier, the more the gov't talks, the more questions arise.

So now I'll be reading what the lawyer for arrested politicians says vs what the self styled anti-corruption fellow says.

Then I'll decide on my own.


In that case let me offer an unsolicited reference, one @Kabetes on Twitter..

IMO, the Gov't relied on complexity of Financial/Economic Reports to pull this one off. Now that has become too complex even for them to answer valid questions.

As for anyone who's on the Administration's payroll, I always take what they say with a pinch of salt. These include:-
1. Grand Mullah
2. Mutahi Ngunyi
3. ....
Obi 1 Kanobi
#165 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:34:58 PM
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mugo2of3 wrote:
alma1 wrote:
limanika wrote:
I hope mullah is right coz I want this thing behind us. But some questions still remain. 1) If the only eurobond money in cbk account is 140b, what happened to 56b (196-140)? 2) if domestic borrowing in 2014/15 was only 110b compared to 201 the previousFY, why didn't interest rates plummet? 3) can we get breakdown how the money was spent?


Always never believe grand mullah. It's good for your health.

I too don't want to believe this but as I have said earlier, the more the gov't talks, the more questions arise.

So now I'll be reading what the lawyer for arrested politicians says vs what the self styled anti-corruption fellow says.

Then I'll decide on my own.


In that case let me offer an unsolicited reference, one @Kabetes on Twitter..

IMO, the Gov't relied on complexity of Financial/Economic Reports to pull this one off. Now that has become too complex even for them to answer valid questions.

As for anyone who's on the Administration's payroll, I always take what they say with a pinch of salt. These include:-
1. Grand Mullah
2. Mutahi Ngunyi
3. ....


Desperation by govt running to GrandMullah for help.

If Rotich cannot correctly account for funds in such an elementary fashion as the lawyer turned accountant is trying to tell us, then we should really be worried.
He also has no clue why he gave Minsitries Sh140B and has now asked them to tell Kenyans.

Then we should be very worried, it seems we have a cook in Treasury cooking accounts
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
limanika
#166 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:34:36 PM
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Finally someone will try make it a case of typos. But the battle is already lost IMHO.
mwenza
#167 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:56:06 PM
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mwenza wrote:
limanika wrote:
I hope mullah is right coz I want this thing behind us. But some questions still remain. 1) If the only eurobond money in cbk account is 140b, what happened to 56b (196-140)? 2) if domestic borrowing in 2014/15 was only 110b compared to 201 the previousFY, why didn't interest rates plummet? 3) can we get breakdown how the money was spent?


You have raised some very pertinent issues. Now waiting for Wazua spin doctors aka team#36 to respond.


3hrs later ..... Still waiting.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
murchr
#168 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:36:36 PM
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Iganamagana wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
wewe wacha it was KES250 billion? KES in bold thats like 2.5 billion USD


Wazuans are talking about $$ thats why I told them to think about it. Anyway

The amount that was raised was US$ 2BN from which commissions and legal
fees were deducted to arrive at US$ 1,999,052,872.97 which amounts was acknowledged in the Central Bank of Kenya Account held with JP Morgan Chase Bank, New York on 27.06.2014. The Bank Statement from JP Morgan Chase Bank in New York confirms these facts. The Bank Statement and a confirmation in writing have been provided to Public Accounts Committee of the National Assembly and the Senate’s Finance Committee. GOK went back for an additional US$ 750 million tap sale and the bond traded at 5.9-5% net proceeds were $815,684,271 sold at a premium of US$ 65,684,271.00 Tap Sales were credited into Central Bank of Kenya account held with Citibank, New York on 17.12.2014. Hio point5 or 500, 000, 000.00 is what was earned from trading the bond


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

Now list the infrastructure projects which were financed by the EURO money
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.


Refer to Rotich's statement on treasury Website and the standard paper of June 9 2014.

Standard 9 Jun 2014 08:55 wrote:
A successful sovereign issuance will show the level of enthusiasm foreign investors have for Kenya. Therefore, other foreign investments will trail any successful sovereign bond issuance in the international capital markets. For this reason, it is expected that we will attract more foreign capital flow after the issuance of the Eurobond. We need to work hard to grow the economy and continue to rely on our own internally generated revenues. Getting this money does not mean our current economic challenges will go away. Remember the Sh132 billion (if Kenya issues $1.5 billion), we will raise will all not be new money as almost half of this will be used to pay off existing loans. Whether this will bring some relief to the economy or not will also very much depend on how we use the proceeds of the bond. The bond proceeds is already budgeted for in this coming financial year but what exactly will it finance? Well, I read the preliminary prospectus and it is noted in there that the remainder, after the $600m syndicated loans and interest are paid off, will be used for ‘general budgetary purposes, including the funding of infrastructure. This means the money from that bond will go into the national pot to cover part of the Sh400 billion plus deficit. The deficit comes from new spending plans and old spending plans. So although it is said that we are borrowing to fund new infrastructure, in actual fact we are borrowing to meet the revenue gap, which is made up of many things.


Na hii kelele yote ni ya nini? They should have made the noise then (June 2014) not now!


Kenyans dont read papers even the media forgot they wrote this
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mwenza
#169 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:23:46 PM
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mwenza wrote:
mwenza wrote:
limanika wrote:
I hope mullah is right coz I want this thing behind us. But some questions still remain. 1) If the only eurobond money in cbk account is 140b, what happened to 56b (196-140)? 2) if domestic borrowing in 2014/15 was only 110b compared to 201 the previousFY, why didn't interest rates plummet? 3) can we get breakdown how the money was spent?


You have raised some very pertinent issues. Now waiting for Wazua spin doctors aka team#36 to respond.


3hrs later ..... Still waiting.


Now going to 8 hrs...
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
alma1
#170 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:28:36 PM
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mwenza wrote:
mwenza wrote:
mwenza wrote:
limanika wrote:
I hope mullah is right coz I want this thing behind us. But some questions still remain. 1) If the only eurobond money in cbk account is 140b, what happened to 56b (196-140)? 2) if domestic borrowing in 2014/15 was only 110b compared to 201 the previousFY, why didn't interest rates plummet? 3) can we get breakdown how the money was spent?


You have raised some very pertinent issues. Now waiting for Wazua spin doctors aka team#36 to respond.


3hrs later ..... Still waiting.


Now going to 8 hrs...


na bado

next statement shall be raila
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Rahatupu
#171 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2015 4:41:50 PM
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Yaani it was all hot air?
mkenyan
#172 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2015 5:45:15 PM
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jaindi kisero's take:

Quote:
According to the Auditor-General’s report, the first amount of money from the receiving bank came into the government’s coffers on June 24, 2014, and was deposited into an offshore account in New York.

But according to the Treasury’s statement, the money hit the offshore account on June 27.

This table confirms the correct position, which is that only $395 million (Sh40.2 billion) from the original Eurobond passed through the Consolidated Fund.

Accounting for revenue is not done at press conferences, where the Controller of Budget is accompanied by top Treasury officials


Quote:
If the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission is serious about investigating the Eurobond issue, they should start by taking statements from the banks in New York and demanding all details on this accounts, especially wire transfer activity in that specific period.

Bank statements alone do not prove anything. It is not for nothing that the Auditor General’s report has taken long to come out. I think the next report of the Auditor General will be explosive on the Eurobond issue.
limanika
#173 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:26:14 PM
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Rahatupu, we're waiting outcome of eacc. If they don't do a good job they're damned.
murchr
#174 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2015 7:21:47 PM
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First the story was...."ma accounti imefunguliwa ng'ambo wameweka pesa huko" allegations made by the Controller of Budgets - Agnes Odhiambo, after she realized the accounts belonged to the central bank, she back tracked. The Auditor General a Mr. Edward Ouko echoed her words saying that the accounts were opened without her knowledge saying that since the money was not banked in the consolidated accounts, then it could have been stolen. “It was deposited in an offshore account, contrary to Article 206 of the Constitution of Kenya and Section 17(2) of Public Finance and Management Act, 2012, which requires that all money raised or received by or on behalf of the national government be paid into the Consolidated Fund.

There is the risk of the proceeds being appropriated without the authority of the Controller of Budget and also being applied for other purposes other than those the Sovereign Bond was floated for.”


"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Swenani
#175 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:04:28 PM
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Yaani every one of these politicians has their head deep in their asses. No one can provide an "intelligent" response or explanation.

Quote:
STATEMENT BY JUBILEE MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT ON GIVING THE FULL FACTS OF THE CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING THE EURO BOND
“AND YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE”
The Euro Bond is a programme aimed at externalizing Government borrowing, which has been in the works since the last Grand Coalition government. The objective of this financing framework is to reduce Government borrowing locally to give room for the private sector and help reduce interest rates.
For the record, it was not possible to launch the sovereign bond in the last administration because of the limited confidence of international market in the country’s economy.
However, the launch of the Euro Bond last year was not only successful, but was oversubscribed by over 500%, with the country achieving the most competitive interest rates ever for a debut bond by an African country.
As is required of any transaction of this magnitude, the Government of Kenya engaged professional international institutions including the African Development Bank, JP Morgan Bank, Barclays Bank, Standard Bank and the Qatar National Bank in the execution of the Euro Bond issue. The following is the long and short of the details of the transactions.
1. How much was raised through the Euro bond? USD 2 billion, or KES 174 Billion
2. What was the purpose of the Bond? The Euro Bond was intended for general budget support, repayment of the KES 600 million syndicated loan, to reduce domestic borrowing thereby easing pressure on interest rates and to diversify the sources of funding by tapping the international financial markets.
3. Did the Government borrow any more money? Yes, the Government borrowed USD 750 million from a tap sale with a bonus of USD 65.5 million, making it a total of USD 815 million. The bonus was due to the performance of the bond, which earned earlier than expected interest.
4. When were the proceeds of the sovereign Bond received? First proceeds were received on 26th June 2014. Tap Sales proceeds of USD 815 million were received on 17th December 2014. Certified bank statements are available from JP Morgan and Citibank as well as SWIFT messages indicating the transfer of the funds from New York to the Central Bank of Kenya.
5. Why were offshore accounts opened in New York? First, the law allows the Government to open a foreign account to enable investors throughout the world to bank proceeds conveniently in a collection account managed by the consulting firms.
Secondly, the lead consultants are institutions of global repute. The account signatory was the Central Bank of Kenya, not the National Treasury. In keeping with prudent management, the National Treasury opened a special sovereign bond at the Central Bank to ensure that only development expenses were financed by the proceeds. Finally, the Controller of Budget and the Auditor General have confirmed that there are no missing or stolen monies from the bonds.
6. The former Prime Minister was very enthusiastic about the prospect of the Euro Bond and followed its progress with unprecedented keenness, which turned to exuberance at the promise of success. This extraordinary passion suddenly and curiously has turned into unconcealed anger ocassioned by the manner in which the proceeds of the Euro Bond were applied by the Jubilee administration.
7. In his characteristic style, the former prime minister has weaved and propagated a narrative around the Euro bond that so far has given only half the story to the Kenyan people. There is the other half of this saga which Raila Odinga would rather it were not told. For the sake of completeness, we are here today to tell the country that other half.
8. It is on record that Hon. Raila Odinga has curiously and consistently been asking about the projects that were funded with the proceeds of the Euro bond. Raila Odinga and his shadowy partners operating out of an address in Westlands had lined up mega projects for Government financing just before the last General Election and he owes the country an explanation on the following.
9. The Jubilee administration inherited KES 120 billion debt from hastily signed contracts in the roads sector just before the last election. These contracts did not have a budget to fund their implementation. The Jubilee administration has had to delay its roads programmes for two and half years in order to pay this debt. Raila Odinga needs to explain to the country why these contracts were hurriedly signed in 2013 without a budget, and who collected the 10 per cent (KES 12billion) that was paid on all these projects?
10. The CORD leader must explain to Kenyans why the KES 65b (USD 650m) Green Field Airport Expansion Project was hurriedly signed without a budget before the last General Election, even after the EACC withheld the contract documents. Why did the former prime minister chair the meeting which approved the contracts even after the Minister for Finance had stated publicly that there were no funds for the project?
Could this be one of the projects that he expected to be funded with the proceeds of the Euro Bond?
11. For the record, the ODM leader was prominently and conspicuously present at the launch of Green Field Airport Expansion Project and this remains the only launch he has attended under the Jubilee administration. Unfortunately for him, the project has had to be cancelled when it became clear that it was yet another commission-seeking racket.
12. The National Youth Service Second and Third Phase Equipment Programme worth KES 16b was initiated and signed just before the last election by the same shadowy syndicate. Could this be one of the projects in Raila Odinga's list of projects to be funded with the Euro Bond proceeds? Again, unfortunately for this corrupt syndicate, this project has had to be suspended by the Jubilee administration due to the stench associated with it.
13. The hastily signed Urban Commuter Train Project hatched under Raila Odinga's watch in similarly dubious circumstances just before the last General Election is another scheme, that Raila Odinga would have wanted the Jubilee administration to finance using the Euro Bond proceeds. Unfortunately for him, this too the Government has declined to finance owing to the blatant rent-seeking scheme associated with it.
14. All these controversial projects, which the Cord leader hoped would be financed with the Euro Bond are massive kickback schemes presented as critical national projects.
Mr Odinga is obviously angry with the Government for its refusal to use the Euro Bond to finance these rackets, which were designed by shady and corrupt networks both inside and outside the Grand Coalition administration. He knows the full details of these schemes.
15. Obviously, in his scheme of things, the hysteria around the Euro Bond is occasioned by the Government’s refusal to be a commission agent for Raila Odinga and his syndicate. This has caused him much confusion and conflict as he pretends to run with the hares by day, yet hunts with the hounds by night.
16. The former prime minister demanded for the full disclosure of information related to the Euro Bond including the projects funded with the proceeds and when this was supplied, he fled and took cover behind fresh absurd allegations.
When he was asked to provide information to relevant constitutionally mandated investigative authorities, Hon. Raila Odinga has been engaged in dodgy and bizarre semantics. His reluctance to engage with the truth is clearly understandable, given his inability to reconcile his actions with his proclaimed principles. When it comes to the war on corruption, Odinga is the poacher masquerading as a gamekeeper.
17. The time for charades, bluster, empty rhetoric, musical chairs and wild allegations is over. The war on corruption is firmly on course. Raila Odinga, the leader and Raila Odinga, the citizen of Kenya must provide proper answers to all our questions and cooperate with the institutions of governance as we seek to get to the bottom of systemic corruption, which has derailed the implementation of development projects and caused much loss and pain to the Kenyan people.

If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
murchr
#176 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:06:55 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Yaani every one of this politicians has their head deep in their asses. No one can provide an "intelligent" response or explanation.

Quote:
STATEMENT BY JUBILEE MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT ON GIVING THE FULL FACTS OF THE CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING THE EURO BOND
“AND YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE”
The Euro Bond is a programme aimed at externalizing Government borrowing, which has been in the works since the last Grand Coalition government. The objective of this financing framework is to reduce Government borrowing locally to give room for the private sector and help reduce interest rates.
For the record, it was not possible to launch the sovereign bond in the last administration because of the limited confidence of international market in the country’s economy.
However, the launch of the Euro Bond last year was not only successful, but was oversubscribed by over 500%, with the country achieving the most competitive interest rates ever for a debut bond by an African country.
As is required of any transaction of this magnitude, the Government of Kenya engaged professional international institutions including the African Development Bank, JP Morgan Bank, Barclays Bank, Standard Bank and the Qatar National Bank in the execution of the Euro Bond issue. The following is the long and short of the details of the transactions.
1. How much was raised through the Euro bond? USD 2 billion, or KES 174 Billion
2. What was the purpose of the Bond? The Euro Bond was intended for general budget support, repayment of the KES 600 million syndicated loan, to reduce domestic borrowing thereby easing pressure on interest rates and to diversify the sources of funding by tapping the international financial markets.
3. Did the Government borrow any more money? Yes, the Government borrowed USD 750 million from a tap sale with a bonus of USD 65.5 million, making it a total of USD 815 million. The bonus was due to the performance of the bond, which earned earlier than expected interest.
4. When were the proceeds of the sovereign Bond received? First proceeds were received on 26th June 2014. Tap Sales proceeds of USD 815 million were received on 17th December 2014. Certified bank statements are available from JP Morgan and Citibank as well as SWIFT messages indicating the transfer of the funds from New York to the Central Bank of Kenya.
5. Why were offshore accounts opened in New York? First, the law allows the Government to open a foreign account to enable investors throughout the world to bank proceeds conveniently in a collection account managed by the consulting firms.
Secondly, the lead consultants are institutions of global repute. The account signatory was the Central Bank of Kenya, not the National Treasury. In keeping with prudent management, the National Treasury opened a special sovereign bond at the Central Bank to ensure that only development expenses were financed by the proceeds. Finally, the Controller of Budget and the Auditor General have confirmed that there are no missing or stolen monies from the bonds.
6. The former Prime Minister was very enthusiastic about the prospect of the Euro Bond and followed its progress with unprecedented keenness, which turned to exuberance at the promise of success. This extraordinary passion suddenly and curiously has turned into unconcealed anger ocassioned by the manner in which the proceeds of the Euro Bond were applied by the Jubilee administration.
7. In his characteristic style, the former prime minister has weaved and propagated a narrative around the Euro bond that so far has given only half the story to the Kenyan people. There is the other half of this saga which Raila Odinga would rather it were not told. For the sake of completeness, we are here today to tell the country that other half.
8. It is on record that Hon. Raila Odinga has curiously and consistently been asking about the projects that were funded with the proceeds of the Euro bond. Raila Odinga and his shadowy partners operating out of an address in Westlands had lined up mega projects for Government financing just before the last General Election and he owes the country an explanation on the following.
9. The Jubilee administration inherited KES 120 billion debt from hastily signed contracts in the roads sector just before the last election. These contracts did not have a budget to fund their implementation. The Jubilee administration has had to delay its roads programmes for two and half years in order to pay this debt. Raila Odinga needs to explain to the country why these contracts were hurriedly signed in 2013 without a budget, and who collected the 10 per cent (KES 12billion) that was paid on all these projects?
10. The CORD leader must explain to Kenyans why the KES 65b (USD 650m) Green Field Airport Expansion Project was hurriedly signed without a budget before the last General Election, even after the EACC withheld the contract documents. Why did the former prime minister chair the meeting which approved the contracts even after the Minister for Finance had stated publicly that there were no funds for the project?
Could this be one of the projects that he expected to be funded with the proceeds of the Euro Bond?
11. For the record, the ODM leader was prominently and conspicuously present at the launch of Green Field Airport Expansion Project and this remains the only launch he has attended under the Jubilee administration. Unfortunately for him, the project has had to be cancelled when it became clear that it was yet another commission-seeking racket.
12. The National Youth Service Second and Third Phase Equipment Programme worth KES 16b was initiated and signed just before the last election by the same shadowy syndicate. Could this be one of the projects in Raila Odinga's list of projects to be funded with the Euro Bond proceeds? Again, unfortunately for this corrupt syndicate, this project has had to be suspended by the Jubilee administration due to the stench associated with it.
13. The hastily signed Urban Commuter Train Project hatched under Raila Odinga's watch in similarly dubious circumstances just before the last General Election is another scheme, that Raila Odinga would have wanted the Jubilee administration to finance using the Euro Bond proceeds. Unfortunately for him, this too the Government has declined to finance owing to the blatant rent-seeking scheme associated with it.
14. All these controversial projects, which the Cord leader hoped would be financed with the Euro Bond are massive kickback schemes presented as critical national projects.
Mr Odinga is obviously angry with the Government for its refusal to use the Euro Bond to finance these rackets, which were designed by shady and corrupt networks both inside and outside the Grand Coalition administration. He knows the full details of these schemes.
15. Obviously, in his scheme of things, the hysteria around the Euro Bond is occasioned by the Government’s refusal to be a commission agent for Raila Odinga and his syndicate. This has caused him much confusion and conflict as he pretends to run with the hares by day, yet hunts with the hounds by night.
16. The former prime minister demanded for the full disclosure of information related to the Euro Bond including the projects funded with the proceeds and when this was supplied, he fled and took cover behind fresh absurd allegations.
When he was asked to provide information to relevant constitutionally mandated investigative authorities, Hon. Raila Odinga has been engaged in dodgy and bizarre semantics. His reluctance to engage with the truth is clearly understandable, given his inability to reconcile his actions with his proclaimed principles. When it comes to the war on corruption, Odinga is the poacher masquerading as a gamekeeper.
17. The time for charades, bluster, empty rhetoric, musical chairs and wild allegations is over. The war on corruption is firmly on course. Raila Odinga, the leader and Raila Odinga, the citizen of Kenya must provide proper answers to all our questions and cooperate with the institutions of governance as we seek to get to the bottom of systemic corruption, which has derailed the implementation of development projects and caused much loss and pain to the Kenyan people.



Look for it on Treasury's website. Politicians are yapping about for political games. Kama hauja jua hio, you are too slow
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sitaki.kujulikana
#177 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:27:08 AM
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limanika wrote:
What a confession. So, some guys just argue for the sake.

Imagine, that's pathetic Sad
newfarer
#178 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 6:51:28 AM
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alma1 wrote:
mwenza wrote:
mwenza wrote:
mwenza wrote:
limanika wrote:
I hope mullah is right coz I want this thing behind us. But some questions still remain. 1) If the only eurobond money in cbk account is 140b, what happened to 56b (196-140)? 2) if domestic borrowing in 2014/15 was only 110b compared to 201 the previousFY, why didn't interest rates plummet? 3) can we get breakdown how the money was spent?


You have raised some very pertinent issues. Now waiting for Wazua spin doctors aka team#36 to respond.


3hrs later ..... Still waiting.


Now going to 8 hrs...


na bado

next statement shall be raila



You were right.
punda amecheka
limanika
#179 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:11:29 AM
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During mo1 regime there are those who could throw stones without a care in the world. It seems some of those who used to throw stones then now live in glass houses, and/or joined those who lived in glass houses then.Unprecedented.
Jus Blazin
#180 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:15:17 AM
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murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Yaani every one of this politicians has their head deep in their asses. No one can provide an "intelligent" response or explanation.

Quote:
STATEMENT BY JUBILEE MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT ON GIVING THE FULL FACTS OF THE CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING THE EURO BOND
“AND YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE”
The Euro Bond is a programme aimed at externalizing Government borrowing, which has been in the works since the last Grand Coalition government. The objective of this financing framework is to reduce Government borrowing locally to give room for the private sector and help reduce interest rates.
For the record, it was not possible to launch the sovereign bond in the last administration because of the limited confidence of international market in the country’s economy.
However, the launch of the Euro Bond last year was not only successful, but was oversubscribed by over 500%, with the country achieving the most competitive interest rates ever for a debut bond by an African country.
As is required of any transaction of this magnitude, the Government of Kenya engaged professional international institutions including the African Development Bank, JP Morgan Bank, Barclays Bank, Standard Bank and the Qatar National Bank in the execution of the Euro Bond issue. The following is the long and short of the details of the transactions.
1. How much was raised through the Euro bond? USD 2 billion, or KES 174 Billion
2. What was the purpose of the Bond? The Euro Bond was intended for general budget support, repayment of the KES 600 million syndicated loan, to reduce domestic borrowing thereby easing pressure on interest rates and to diversify the sources of funding by tapping the international financial markets.
3. Did the Government borrow any more money? Yes, the Government borrowed USD 750 million from a tap sale with a bonus of USD 65.5 million, making it a total of USD 815 million. The bonus was due to the performance of the bond, which earned earlier than expected interest.
4. When were the proceeds of the sovereign Bond received? First proceeds were received on 26th June 2014. Tap Sales proceeds of USD 815 million were received on 17th December 2014. Certified bank statements are available from JP Morgan and Citibank as well as SWIFT messages indicating the transfer of the funds from New York to the Central Bank of Kenya.
5. Why were offshore accounts opened in New York? First, the law allows the Government to open a foreign account to enable investors throughout the world to bank proceeds conveniently in a collection account managed by the consulting firms.
Secondly, the lead consultants are institutions of global repute. The account signatory was the Central Bank of Kenya, not the National Treasury. In keeping with prudent management, the National Treasury opened a special sovereign bond at the Central Bank to ensure that only development expenses were financed by the proceeds. Finally, the Controller of Budget and the Auditor General have confirmed that there are no missing or stolen monies from the bonds.
6. The former Prime Minister was very enthusiastic about the prospect of the Euro Bond and followed its progress with unprecedented keenness, which turned to exuberance at the promise of success. This extraordinary passion suddenly and curiously has turned into unconcealed anger ocassioned by the manner in which the proceeds of the Euro Bond were applied by the Jubilee administration.
7. In his characteristic style, the former prime minister has weaved and propagated a narrative around the Euro bond that so far has given only half the story to the Kenyan people. There is the other half of this saga which Raila Odinga would rather it were not told. For the sake of completeness, we are here today to tell the country that other half.
8. It is on record that Hon. Raila Odinga has curiously and consistently been asking about the projects that were funded with the proceeds of the Euro bond. Raila Odinga and his shadowy partners operating out of an address in Westlands had lined up mega projects for Government financing just before the last General Election and he owes the country an explanation on the following.
9. The Jubilee administration inherited KES 120 billion debt from hastily signed contracts in the roads sector just before the last election. These contracts did not have a budget to fund their implementation. The Jubilee administration has had to delay its roads programmes for two and half years in order to pay this debt. Raila Odinga needs to explain to the country why these contracts were hurriedly signed in 2013 without a budget, and who collected the 10 per cent (KES 12billion) that was paid on all these projects?
10. The CORD leader must explain to Kenyans why the KES 65b (USD 650m) Green Field Airport Expansion Project was hurriedly signed without a budget before the last General Election, even after the EACC withheld the contract documents. Why did the former prime minister chair the meeting which approved the contracts even after the Minister for Finance had stated publicly that there were no funds for the project?
Could this be one of the projects that he expected to be funded with the proceeds of the Euro Bond?
11. For the record, the ODM leader was prominently and conspicuously present at the launch of Green Field Airport Expansion Project and this remains the only launch he has attended under the Jubilee administration. Unfortunately for him, the project has had to be cancelled when it became clear that it was yet another commission-seeking racket.
12. The National Youth Service Second and Third Phase Equipment Programme worth KES 16b was initiated and signed just before the last election by the same shadowy syndicate. Could this be one of the projects in Raila Odinga's list of projects to be funded with the Euro Bond proceeds? Again, unfortunately for this corrupt syndicate, this project has had to be suspended by the Jubilee administration due to the stench associated with it.
13. The hastily signed Urban Commuter Train Project hatched under Raila Odinga's watch in similarly dubious circumstances just before the last General Election is another scheme, that Raila Odinga would have wanted the Jubilee administration to finance using the Euro Bond proceeds. Unfortunately for him, this too the Government has declined to finance owing to the blatant rent-seeking scheme associated with it.
14. All these controversial projects, which the Cord leader hoped would be financed with the Euro Bond are massive kickback schemes presented as critical national projects.
Mr Odinga is obviously angry with the Government for its refusal to use the Euro Bond to finance these rackets, which were designed by shady and corrupt networks both inside and outside the Grand Coalition administration. He knows the full details of these schemes.
15. Obviously, in his scheme of things, the hysteria around the Euro Bond is occasioned by the Government’s refusal to be a commission agent for Raila Odinga and his syndicate. This has caused him much confusion and conflict as he pretends to run with the hares by day, yet hunts with the hounds by night.
16. The former prime minister demanded for the full disclosure of information related to the Euro Bond including the projects funded with the proceeds and when this was supplied, he fled and took cover behind fresh absurd allegations.
When he was asked to provide information to relevant constitutionally mandated investigative authorities, Hon. Raila Odinga has been engaged in dodgy and bizarre semantics. His reluctance to engage with the truth is clearly understandable, given his inability to reconcile his actions with his proclaimed principles. When it comes to the war on corruption, Odinga is the poacher masquerading as a gamekeeper.
17. The time for charades, bluster, empty rhetoric, musical chairs and wild allegations is over. The war on corruption is firmly on course. Raila Odinga, the leader and Raila Odinga, the citizen of Kenya must provide proper answers to all our questions and cooperate with the institutions of governance as we seek to get to the bottom of systemic corruption, which has derailed the implementation of development projects and caused much loss and pain to the Kenyan people.



Look for it on Treasury's website. Politicians are yapping about for political games. Kama hauja jua hio, you are too slow

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