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Tom cholmondley
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#61 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:34:00 PM
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as they say...the law is an A**!

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wote
#62 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:49:00 PM
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Fellow Kenyans,i really do not understanding your obsession with this particular case,is it because the Tom is white and rich and most of you are not as rich,therefore he deserves to hang''' for an offence that if otherwise had been committed by myself i wouldn't even get a days sentance for it.

Some while a go I gave an example of this watchman who clobbered a pub patrol to death in Dandora,he got off scot free.

Yesterday,according to the press on line from all main dailies in Kenya,there is a story of one Florence Gathoni who killed her Husband of ten years and got only three months sentance by the same Judge. Guess what? nobody here wants to know that story.

If its a matter of race please lets stop it,and if its a matter of land there are equally many other Kenyans who got huge arcarage of land for free by using state machinary and have not been condemned.


wote
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#63 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:24:00 PM
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wote- are you rich? If you are,what the f*** are doing on sk? Most of us are trying to get into rich. Then dude... review the difference between rich and wealthy. Lord Delamare,Lord Kenyatta ...are wealthy. Now,why back a team that with your level of thinking you will never be on?

mkenyan- Have a sweet now for being a good boy. Now i think i remember something about why it is important to know the law; so that you can know how,where to break it.

For you two idiots seems like law takes precedence over common sense. Don't excuse my foul language because the one thing i am sure about is someone died at the hands of another.

In essence Cholmondos*** is a killer. Killer because he killed. Twice!!!

Law or no law its immoral.

Sunday school teachers have alot of work; why 'Do not kill.' should remain in the ten commandments'.
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#64 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:13:00 PM
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fantony (stop with the snark),Do not confuse the law with morality. My posts have been restricted to the law. Justice Apondi had to apply the law and not consider the morality - justice is meant to be blind to everything else.

Do I personally feel that given in the circumstances and given Chomli's prior justice has been served? I do not. In fact I find myself entertaining doubts on the very judgement by Apondi that malice aforethought could not be established as I feel it is not something that can only exist based on time. But my judgement is based on the information I have gotten from the media unfortunately. Justice Apondi had the benefit of hearing the People's case and the accused and he found no basis in them to sustain murder. I and the majority of people here have not gone through the proceedings and judgement so we cannot really fault the judge here.

I would also like to reiterate that the first accusation of killing had no relevance to this particular case. You could ask why but it is rather a long confusing legalise.

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#65 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:23:00 PM
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Thanks mkenyan,

I have to say,I am impressed that you seem to be the only lawyer willing to say something.

So from what you have written it seems then that the law does need some serious overhaul. I have to say however,that this trespassing thing does need to change especially given the propensity of Kenyans planting where they have never sown.

I would shoot the guy and think later too.

The guys making noise are the usual suspects who behave like only the rich do evil things.

So as a warning to fantony and co.,if you step on my land,I will surely shoot you! You can go complain about your justice for the rich and poor somewhere else. I know very many people here feel the same as I do.
murchr
#66 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:54:35 PM
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Thomas (Tom) Cholmondeley, a famous Kenyan farmer of British ancestry, died on Wednesday afternoon aged 48.

The aristocrat died after a hip replacement surgery at MP Shah Hospital in Nairobi.
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#67 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 6:33:06 PM
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nanfor wrote:
Thanks mkenyan,

I have to say,I am impressed that you seem to be the only lawyer willing to say something.

So from what you have written it seems then that the law does need some serious overhaul. I have to say however,that this trespassing thing does need to change especially given the propensity of Kenyans planting where they have never sown.

I would shoot the guy and think later too.

The guys making noise are the usual suspects who behave like only the rich do evil things.

So as a warning to fantony and co.,if you step on my land,I will surely shoot you! You can go complain about your justice for the rich and poor somewhere else. I know very many people here feel the same as I do.



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#68 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:40:33 PM
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Forgive my ignorance but how does one die of cardiac arrest after undergoing hip replacement surgery?
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#69 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:28:28 PM
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#70 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:20:02 PM
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Swenani wrote:


He was recovering in ICU after the surgery when the cardiac arrest struck - I have not answered your question.

Medics in the house?
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#71 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:39:45 PM
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#72 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:42:57 PM
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Euge wrote:
Swenani wrote:


He was recovering in ICU after the surgery when the cardiac arrest struck - I have not answered your question.

Medics in the house?


He shot himself on the hip.
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#73 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:55:16 PM
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Ngoma aromucina nginya acure.....
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#74 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:07:39 AM
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#75 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:14:23 AM
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In all you do remember the vanity of life.

I'm normally shocked by our greed, yet naked we came to this world and naked shall we return to our creator. Vanity of vanities
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#76 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:53:31 AM
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newfarer wrote:
In all you do remember the vanity of life.

I'm normally shocked by our greed, yet naked we came to this world and naked shall we return to our creator. Vanity of vanities



How profoundly true.
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#77 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:49:24 AM
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Swenani wrote:


Very possible.
Complications in the blood and general body system.
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Impunity
#78 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:51:10 AM
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Speculz wrote:
newfarer wrote:
In all you do remember the vanity of life.

I'm normally shocked by our greed, yet naked we came to this world and naked shall we return to our creator. Vanity of vanities



How profoundly true.


Yote ni vanity, ooh oooh, vanity...V-A-N-I-T-Y.

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#79 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:00:11 AM
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Swenani wrote:


Apparently very common occurence, something to do with blood clotting etc.

A friend had an accident, broke his leg, was taken into surgery and died of heart complications when recovering.
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#80 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:19:21 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Speculz wrote:
newfarer wrote:
In all you do remember the vanity of life.

I'm normally shocked by our greed, yet naked we came to this world and naked shall we return to our creator. Vanity of vanities



How profoundly true.


Yote ni vanity, ooh oooh, vanity...V-A-N-I-T-Y.

Sad


What greed? The guy was born just 48yrs ago while we have been independent for over 50yrs. Also the guy never sent an application to be born by Delamere. You cant blame a child for being born in a rich family. Right now we should be condoling his wife and young children. RIP Cholmondeley.
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