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Strathmore!!!!!!!!!!!!!
murchr
#41 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 10:31:58 PM
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streetwise wrote:
To put it in a different way in an aviation drill do you really crash the aircraft ?


Or in a fire drill, do you actually set the building on fire? I guess they were testing how scary they can get.
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#42 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:41:00 AM
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Can we have a drill that all stakeholders are aware and trained to respond appropriately and to make it close to the real thing "the terrorists' use rubber bullets,gas(fake) and nyaunyos? The subjects fear these things especially the bullets that splash some pink goo we see in movies
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#43 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:07:26 AM
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PLEEEEEEEEEESE stop streesing this mabaabie! wakafanye drill huko gikomba ama kibera ndio watajua response ni nini? drill equipment might not remain theirs . heheh
Lolest!
#44 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:54:30 AM
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Westgate recently announced in the papers that they would conduct such a drill. How did it go?
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#45 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:17:56 AM
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Alshabaab must be laughing at us


So this fatal incident, they can claim it? It was on their account. Those were terrorist accomplices who have stabbed us in the back.
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#46 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 12:55:21 PM
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GetIT411:
IG Boinett says Strathmore University did not inform authorities about terror drill that turned chaotic;probe launched.www.capitalfm.co.ke
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willin2learn
#47 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 6:09:12 PM
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maka wrote:
GetIT411:
IG Boinett says Strathmore University did not inform authorities about terror drill that turned chaotic;probe launched.www.capitalfm.co.ke


He wakes up after almost 36 hours of slumber to realize authorities were not informedSad
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#48 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 6:34:05 PM
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You mean NO legal action to be taken? investigation the kenyan way,one month,year ...shindwe! by now several people should be in court
Impunity
#49 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:04:24 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Westgate recently announced in the papers that they would conduct such a drill. How did it go?


Why should a drill be announced to the subjects?
The police yes, but the residents no!
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Lolest!
#50 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:53:10 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Westgate recently announced in the papers that they would conduct such a drill. How did it go?


Why should a drill be announced to the subjects?
The police yes, but the residents no!

Some guys who shop at Westgate have guns like we saw in the siekke. They could lipua the participants thinking they're real al-shaitans
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murchr
#51 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:31:34 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Westgate recently announced in the papers that they would conduct such a drill. How did it go?


Why should a drill be announced to the subjects?
The police yes, but the residents no!


Drill ni practice. Its a set of instructions telling you when you spot alshaitani firing like he normally does...you should take cover eg if its in a class room, you should hide under the desks, or lock the doors, or take the exit stairs instead of the elevator.. and in drills carried out by a professional organization, you involve the cops security company and hospitals so that they all participate. The aim is to test their response mechanisms(for hosp, cops and security company) and for the students/workers etc...its to teach then on safety measures they should take.

A drill should not be a test
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#52 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:20:48 PM
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someone died Sad , someone who maybe has left your kids behind.
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#53 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:28:59 PM
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Does the NIS participate in recommending or designing these drills? If not, then the war isn't just poorly coordinated but it's being fought unintelligently.
hardwood
#54 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:33:10 PM
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Strathmore is turning out to be a jua kali university. Is there a way they can be charged with murder and inflicting injuries?
Boris Boyka
#55 Posted : Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:57:27 AM
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murchr wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Westgate recently announced in the papers that they would conduct such a drill. How did it go?


Why should a drill be announced to the subjects?
The police yes, but the residents no!


Drill ni practice. Its a set of instructions telling you when you spot alshaitani firing like he normally does...you should take cover eg if its in a class room, you should hide under the desks, or lock the doors, or take the exit stairs instead of the elevator.. and in drills carried out by a professional organization, you involve the cops security company and hospitals so that they all participate. The aim is to test their response mechanisms(for hosp, cops and security company) and for the students/workers etc...its to teach then on safety measures they should take.

A drill should not be a test

You have been doing a good job to educate those who don't know steps and procedures of conducting a drill. Further a terror drill (gun fire involved) , bomb scare , fire drill and plane crash drill can't follow same actions in execution. The participants need to go through teaching and rehearsals first. As mentioned... That was unprofessional. The Chief Security Officer slept on job.. He needs to use logic.
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#56 Posted : Wednesday, December 02, 2015 8:00:46 AM
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tycho wrote:
Does the NIS participate in recommending or designing these drills? If not, then the war isn't just poorly coordinated but it's being fought unintelligently.


No it doesn't and when it does, the recommendations are shelved away forever never to be implemented.
Boris Boyka
#57 Posted : Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:08:40 AM
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whiteowl wrote:
tycho wrote:
Does the NIS participate in recommending or designing these drills? If not, then the war isn't just poorly coordinated but it's being fought unintelligently.


No it doesn't and when it does, the recommendations are shelved away forever never to be implemented.

@whiteowl you have an attachment to NIS either personal or family.smile how many drills have been conducted against the NIS recommendation? Unless you're talking about general issues.
@tycho IMHO the NIS has nothing to do with the drills. Nis deals with information collection and intelligence so are you converting students into informants smile ...they just need to be informed of the drills. Its all the Rapid deployment security units that should be involved in planning and execution of the drills. Read only a section of APs were involved. FYI these Rapid deployment units usually have undergone some training in Information gathering and intelligence, unless ours are substandard.
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whiteowl
#58 Posted : Wednesday, December 02, 2015 11:34:55 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
tycho wrote:
Does the NIS participate in recommending or designing these drills? If not, then the war isn't just poorly coordinated but it's being fought unintelligently.


No it doesn't and when it does, the recommendations are shelved away forever never to be implemented.

@whiteowl you have an attachment to NIS either personal or family.smile how many drills have been conducted against the NIS recommendation? Unless you're talking about general issues.
@tycho IMHO the NIS has nothing to do with the drills. Nis deals with information collection and intelligence so are you converting students into informants smile ...they just need to be informed of the drills. Its all the Rapid deployment security units that should be involved in planning and execution of the drills. Read only a section of APs were involved. FYI these Rapid deployment units usually have undergone some training in Information gathering and intelligence, unless ours are substandard.


No,I'm not affiliated smile There is nothing much they can do anyway. They are to security organs what auditors are to companies and you know how well that is working out.We can talk about training, resources and standards for the drills or any other matter but poor performance is caused by lack of consequences for corruption and incompetence.
hardwood
#59 Posted : Wednesday, December 02, 2015 11:43:26 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
tycho wrote:
Does the NIS participate in recommending or designing these drills? If not, then the war isn't just poorly coordinated but it's being fought unintelligently.


No it doesn't and when it does, the recommendations are shelved away forever never to be implemented.

@whiteowl you have an attachment to NIS either personal or family.smile how many drills have been conducted against the NIS recommendation? Unless you're talking about general issues.
@tycho IMHO the NIS has nothing to do with the drills. Nis deals with information collection and intelligence so are you converting students into informants smile ...they just need to be informed of the drills. Its all the Rapid deployment security units that should be involved in planning and execution of the drills. Read only a section of APs were involved. FYI these Rapid deployment units usually have undergone some training in Information gathering and intelligence, unless ours are substandard.


How does JKIA conduct it's drills za aircraft crashes/terror?

http://mg.co.za/article/...h-drill-duped-the-media

http://www.the-star.co.k...ack-drill-triggers-panic
tycho
#60 Posted : Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:22:54 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
tycho wrote:
Does the NIS participate in recommending or designing these drills? If not, then the war isn't just poorly coordinated but it's being fought unintelligently.


No it doesn't and when it does, the recommendations are shelved away forever never to be implemented.

@whiteowl you have an attachment to NIS either personal or family.smile how many drills have been conducted against the NIS recommendation? Unless you're talking about general issues.
@tycho IMHO the NIS has nothing to do with the drills. Nis deals with information collection and intelligence so are you converting students into informants smile ...they just need to be informed of the drills. Its all the Rapid deployment security units that should be involved in planning and execution of the drills. Read only a section of APs were involved. FYI these Rapid deployment units usually have undergone some training in Information gathering and intelligence, unless ours are substandard.


True, NIS deals with intelligence, and information collection. I also realize that intelligence is also information use. Should intelligence be a quality of the drills?

How a nation reacts to information and uses information is important because a nation has or is supposed to have clear objectives as to it's being. Terrorist attacks are now not improbable events; they are increasing in fact.

They're probably morphing. Let's say we think of patterns in the modus operandi of the terrorists, that would tell us something of their minds; do we have similar psychologies in the gun man attacks say in America?

Now in my estimation this may be crucial information. And, is vital in designing and implementing drills. The drills, I also realize are important events in how citizens experience life as say, 'Kenyans' and is stressful. I doubt whether it should be taken lightly.

http://www.theguardian.c...essay-paris-attacks-isis
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