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Stanlib I-reit IPO @20/- per unit
Ericsson
#161 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:42:48 AM
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Out of the Stanlib reit of sh. 3.6bn,IFC pumped sh. 1.5bn.
Kama sio wao the thing was a flop
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Spikes
#162 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:34:01 AM
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Kenyans especially Wanjiku fear being shafted.....
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kryptonite
#163 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:22:09 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Out of the Stanlib reit of sh. 3.6bn,IFC pumped sh. 1.5bn.
Kama sio wao the thing was a flop


Btw naskia they backed out. They didn't put in the Sh1.5bn, don't know the reason given.
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patrazi
#164 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:45:33 PM
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kryptonite wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Out of the Stanlib reit of sh. 3.6bn,IFC pumped sh. 1.5bn.
Kama sio wao the thing was a flop


Btw naskia they backed out. They didn't put in the Sh1.5bn, don't know the reason given.

They must have backed off. Foreign investors put in 899m only.
streetwise
#165 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2015 3:07:02 PM
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Wow nikubaya
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#166 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2015 3:29:59 PM
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Nse ipo was highly successful meaning there is money for what investors think is right.
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tmatekwa
#167 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2015 6:28:54 PM
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kryptonite wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Out of the Stanlib reit of sh. 3.6bn,IFC pumped sh. 1.5bn.
Kama sio wao the thing was a flop


Btw naskia they backed out. They didn't put in the Sh1.5bn, don't know the reason given.

link?
patrazi
#168 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:41:01 PM
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tmatekwa wrote:
kryptonite wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Out of the Stanlib reit of sh. 3.6bn,IFC pumped sh. 1.5bn.
Kama sio wao the thing was a flop


Btw naskia they backed out. They didn't put in the Sh1.5bn, don't know the reason given.

link?

http://www.businessdaily...84/-/f224mg/-/index.html
enyands
#169 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 5:07:30 AM
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patrazi wrote:
tmatekwa wrote:
kryptonite wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Out of the Stanlib reit of sh. 3.6bn,IFC pumped sh. 1.5bn.
Kama sio wao the thing was a flop


Btw naskia they backed out. They didn't put in the Sh1.5bn, don't know the reason given.

link?

http://www.businessdaily...4/-/f224mg/-/index.html[/quote]

A whole IFC (investment arm of wb) didn't realize that it wasn't allowed to invest that much rather reduce it to some couple of millions dollars!! seriously? As I said before some of these press statements are geared to rope poor wanjiku.a well established organisation like that cannot and will never make such careless financial utterances.in their countries every utterances made carelessly has repercussions .so here in Kenya they know they can do that SHAFT wanjiku and get away with that. When I said I'll wait for it at 10 Bob somebody told me that this share isn't mboga sokoniLaughing out loudly .isorait
enyands
#170 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 5:12:26 AM
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dunkang
#171 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 6:43:14 AM
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So, IFC is classified as an East African Institutional Investor? That's a new one.

If it was not for IFC, the subscription would have been less than 20%.

This i-reit concept is dead. Kenyans can't comprehend how a shopping mall in eastlands can be valued at billions at the same value with a +25 storeys building in upper hill.

Waiting for those other things called options, convertibles and etc etc.
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Spikes
#172 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 6:49:30 AM
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It will shamefully plunge to 1bob like HAFR. It is a matter of time before real screwing start.
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#173 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 8:29:37 AM
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enyands wrote:
patrazi wrote:
tmatekwa wrote:
kryptonite wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Out of the Stanlib reit of sh. 3.6bn,IFC pumped sh. 1.5bn.
Kama sio wao the thing was a flop


Btw naskia they backed out. They didn't put in the Sh1.5bn, don't know the reason given.

link?

http://www.businessdaily...4/-/f224mg/-/index.html[/quote]

A whole IFC (investment arm of wb) didn't realize that it wasn't allowed to invest that much rather reduce it to some couple of millions dollars!! seriously? As I said before some of these press statements are geared to rope poor wanjiku.a well established organisation like that cannot and will never make such careless financial utterances.in their countries every utterances made carelessly has repercussions .so here in Kenya they know they can do that SHAFT wanjiku and get away with that. When I said I'll wait for it at 10 Bob somebody told me that this share isn't mboga sokoniLaughing out loudly .isorait

It's clear from the article that it's not a case of ignorance of rules. IFC could have invested more if the uptake was better
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guru267
#174 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 8:41:55 AM
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The hot air here reminds of the hot air after the co op IPO which was also undersubscribed...

For now I have confidence in STANLIBs management of similar products.
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
dunkang
#175 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 8:46:46 AM
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guru267 wrote:
The hot air here reminds of the hot air after the co op IPO which was also undersubscribed...

For now I have confidence in STANLIBs management of similar products.

Just like HomeAfrika
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

guru267
#176 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 10:42:45 AM
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dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
The hot air here reminds of the hot air after the co op IPO which was also undersubscribed...

For now I have confidence in STANLIBs management of similar products.

Just like HomeAfrika


Sorry I don't follow... Wer Home Afrika shares undersubscribed or managed by Stanlib?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
dunkang
#177 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 10:50:30 AM
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guru267 wrote:
dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
The hot air here reminds of the hot air after the co op IPO which was also undersubscribed...

For now I have confidence in STANLIBs management of similar products.

Just like HomeAfrika


Sorry I don't follow... Wer Home Afrika shares undersubscribed or managed by Stanlib?

You have confidence in Stanlib, the same way you had confidence in HomeAfrika.

How much is that mall been bought at again?
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

whiteowl
#178 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 11:21:59 AM
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dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
The hot air here reminds of the hot air after the co op IPO which was also undersubscribed...

For now I have confidence in STANLIBs management of similar products.

Just like HomeAfrika


Sorry I don't follow... Wer Home Afrika shares undersubscribed or managed by Stanlib?

You have confidence in Stanlib, the same way you had confidence in HomeAfrika.

How much is that mall been bought at again?


Madam Guru, the earlier you cut your losses the better. Dejavu HomeAfrika at 20s.
shiznit
#179 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 3:49:37 PM
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Mystocks shows that it closed at 21.50/- That's 9.47% down on the first day, but only 100 units traded.

I think this was a very poorly timed product launch. If it was in a bull market, Wanjiku would (as usual) come out in full speculation mode regardless of not being conversant with REITs.

But now you couple the liquidity crunch with bearish trend and then uncertainty about how good the returns would be, this one was going to be dead in the water.

But let's see, maybe with time (read at 10/-) it can be picked up; see how it goes.Pray
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Museveni
#180 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 4:37:55 PM
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shiznit wrote:
Mystocks shows that it closed at 21.50/- That's 9.47% down on the first day, but only 100 units traded.

I think this was a very poorly timed product launch. If it was in a bull market, Wanjiku would (as usual) come out in full speculation mode regardless of not being conversant with REITs.

But now you couple the liquidity crunch with bearish trend and then uncertainty about how good the returns would be, this one was going to be dead in the water.

But let's see, maybe with time (read at 10/-) it can be picked up; see how it goes.Pray

The only chance to push it up was on friday when there were no 'breaks' on a slide or shoot. HAFR managed to push up 100% to 25 from 12. Now at 1.4!
From today watch the 10% drops.
The road to 10 is just 7 days ( say 3 weeks due to no trade days ) away.
Then those wishing to jump aboard can set new entry targets
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