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Pope's Visit
Anti_Burglar
#101 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:40:20 AM
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tycho wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
¿ wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
quicksand wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
githundi wrote:
@hamburglar, with the last post, you have crossed the line...'that is being abusive. ..non tolerance has no room in the civilised world you claim to belong.
You have to learn to be and let others be. We live in a socially and spiritually diverse world.


Ummm. No line crossed. It's a fact that religious people have a lower IQ on average than us atheists. Google it. Anybody who can't think independently (theists) is weak minded, It's not an insult, it's a fact albeit harsh. And for the people who think that i need to see the light, lol, i saw the light a long time ago when i chose to become an atheist. You are the ones that are blinded by faith and can't see the truth about how religion and false gods are holding you back from liberation. If i compare my life to that of a lot of my impoverished religious nuts friends lives, i am quite confident that i am the one in the light. Life is good here, y'all don't worry about what i need. Maybe you need to shed some light towards those people who took all morning to go see a person who will add absolutely no value to their lives.

The ones that were poor before going to see the pope today will still be poor tomorrow, the disabled will still be disabled, the mentally ill will still be nuts as f***, so the mass served absolutely no purpose? He won't change a single thing and won't make any change in anybody's life other than making my trip to the expensive lunch that am heading out to eat hell. Lol. Why are they closing down roads for some regular bloke? This guy is nothing special, he has no special powers and is nothing more than a con.

Ati mass, for what? Broke people are jam packed at UON to listen to a rich conman tell them a lot of nothing while they should be out and about trying to earn a living and looking for money to put a meal on their tables tonight. Now most of them will go home broke and tomorrow morning, i guarantee you, i will have a few of my casual employees asking me for emergency cash for bus fare or lunch since they didn't make any money today coz they went to see the pope. People are really not very wise and then wonder how come they are sinking more and more into poverty. Use your time wisely and engage your brain constructively otherwise you will all perish like fools.


Hehehe.
You are just another dude on a soapbox. You are not very different from religious zealots who froth at the mouth, point and shout at others and claim the kingdom is
due to them cause they believe only their piety is pious enough. Your religion however, is intelligence. You believe you
are more possessed of it than those who believe in God or religion. If you have any intelligence, then it fails you miserably at times. There are believers who have more sense, more wisdom, more knowledge in things requiring expertise as well generally, are more economically productive, live peaceful lives and are more useful than you.
Offending others on the tenets of their faith, their leaders, institutions and icons is a display of lack of tolerance, decorum and manners.
If you can only engage in a ham-fisted way, it is an extremism, its one dimensional, it means depth, nuance and understanding escape you, therefore your intelligence is not as great as you would like us to believe.


Tolerance and decorum my ass? Lol, Religion and mythical gods are detrimental to society and tough love is sometimes the only way to send a message. You have to call religion what it is, it's dumb and stupid. Sometimes you just have to say it like it is, if we keep coddling and pandering to these religious people they will never get it. So forgive my "manners" or lack thereof, but i hate the damage religion has done and is still doing to humanity and especially in Africa and if lacking decorum and tolerance in my delivery will help provoke people's conscience the way this thread is doing right now, then that's how it will be delivered. Eradication of religion will be a win for civilization and critical thinking. Tough love can sometimes be effective, hakuna kubembeleza watu, it's for their own good. I don't have time to massage anybody's ego when it's evident that religion is pulling us back into the dark ages, i will call it like i see it, if you are waiting for me to mince my words so you can judge my intelligence from my "tolerance and decorum" then don't hold your breath because it's not happening anytime soon. Religion is a major major reason for poverty, destitution and brainwashing and i don't have time for woiye stories. How about that for a "display of tolerance, decorum and manners?" - NOT. smile


Like I said,I believe you think you are intelligent but emotional appeals will only get you so far.smile


Incase you haven't noticed, i always ignore you and tycho because you two need to get psychiatric evaluation ASAP. You two are freaking looneys. Lol. See a shrink and then maybe i will debate you. Crazy ass mother lovers. Hehehe.


Seems like the number of things you tolerate is shrinking. For me, I accept you, and hence I don't need to debate you. I'd prefer a conversation instead. A shrink would prefer a conversation too. An intelligent person would prefer debate to conversation because of insecurity and lack of clarity.

You doubt your choice but it's the fuel that drives and justifies your ambition and sense of achievement. That's why you lash out.

You're killing yourself softly. That's what tycho's shrink says is the matter with you. And that it's normal and okay.





My friends.
Anti_Burglar
#102 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:42:35 AM
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githundi wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
githundi wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
githundi wrote:
@hamburglar, with the last post, you have crossed the line...'that is being abusive. ..non tolerance has no room in the civilised world you claim to belong.
You have to learn to be and let others be. We live in a socially and spiritually diverse world.


What line? He has asked legitimate questions that instead of wasting time you could have answered even with an I Don't Know. You cannot stifle free thought with your imaginary lines.

Your freedom of thought ends where others right to have the same in a non-abusive and non degrading environment.
You can't call statements like. ...'these weak minded religious zealots....'
freedom of thought


Lets make a compromise. Stop such a thought then.

Yes...That's why I couldn't let such abusive thoughts to continue...Let's not allow this kind of abusive and intolerant thoughts to continue. .. especially when it comes from the more 'learned' from whom much more is expected.


Alright.
tycho
#103 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:57:08 AM
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Swenani wrote:

On this one I'm with Burglar,The papacy and the catholic church are the biggest joke of the religion.


Most of Christianity if not all of it is rooted in the Catholic church. The way of the Protestant is a reaction to the Pope. So there's little that a Protestant can summon to show the purity of his ways. If anything Protestantism is out doing the Catholic church in it's 'crimes'.

If it's a matter of thinking and conversing about religion then we can open up to the topic without partiality and venom.




marko
#104 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:17:23 AM
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Uhunye leading mugithi at Kasarani.
WHO DARES WINS
alma1
#105 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:19:08 AM
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Pope's "allegations" about Land Grabbers and "private developers" are very distasteful.

He all but called this people a danger to humanity.

I'm waiting for another gov't delegation to be sent to the Hague for calling Kenyans bad people for stealing school grounds. It's obvious he was a Cord mole all along.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Swenani
#106 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:24:50 AM
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tycho wrote:
Swenani wrote:

On this one I'm with Burglar,The papacy and the catholic church are the biggest joke of the religion.


Most of Christianity if not all of it is rooted in the Catholic church. The way of the Protestant is a reaction to the Pope. So there's little that a Protestant can summon to show the purity of his ways. If anything Protestantism is out doing the Catholic church in it's 'crimes'.

If it's a matter of thinking and conversing about religion then we can open up to the topic without partiality and venom.






Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Most of Christianity of rooted in JC apart from Catholic.

Potestants was a reaction to the papacy and catholics joke and hence they can't outdo the catholics

A true protestant should believe in JC and hold the following beliefs
1.The bible is the only authority on christian matters
2. Only God can provide Grace
3. Salvation is through a personal relationship with JC and GOD
4. JC is the only go in between man and God
5. Glory and honour only goes to God
6.Only God is infallible

Hii ya catholic and pope is clearly the opposite of the above
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
nakujua
#107 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:40:59 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
How about we focus on the Pope, for now, and later we can have side-shows with attention seekers?

Too much tension and adversity in Kenya, some of us never see the good in anything.
Thiong'o
#108 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 11:22:22 AM
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ecstacy
#109 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 11:35:47 AM
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Kasarani, best speech so far by a mile.
ecstacy
#110 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 11:38:44 AM
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"Corrupt‬ people do not live in peace"
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