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Stanlib I-reit IPO @20/- per unit
whiteowl
#141 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:28:39 PM
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tmatekwa wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kenya-s-firts-Reits-offer-misses-target/-/539552/2973220/-/cjv89i/-/index.html
Kenya’s first Income-Real Estate Investment Trust (Reit) issued by Stanlib Investments has raised under one-third of the targeted Sh12.5 billion in what analysts attributed to competition from other instruments and poor grasp of the concept.
The Fahari I-Reit managed to raise Sh3.6 billion through the offering, the company said in a notice. It termed the offer a success since it exceeded the minimum Sh2.6 billion target.
“Following the closing date of receipt of applications and payment for units in the Stanlib Fahari I-Reit on Wednesday 18 November 2015, Stanlib Kenya limited (the issuer) is pleased to announce that the offer exceeded the success threshold of Sh2.6 billion as it has received applications for units amounting to Sh3,619,446,000,” said Stanlib in an advert.


Undersubscribed oversubscription?
dunkang
#142 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 8:09:17 AM
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This must be a new low. 30% subscription with all that publicity and spreading lies.

This can be compared to that HomeAfrika Bond that had 0% subscription.
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murchr
#143 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:30:18 AM
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dunkang wrote:
This must be a new low. 30% subscription with all that publicity and spreading lies.

This can be compared to that HomeAfrika Bond that had 0% subscription.


Laughing out loudly
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mlennyma
#144 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:41:34 AM
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tmatekwa wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kenya-s-firts-Reits-offer-misses-target/-/539552/2973220/-/cjv89i/-/index.html
Kenya’s first Income-Real Estate Investment Trust (Reit) issued by Stanlib Investments has raised under one-third of the targeted Sh12.5 billion in what analysts attributed to competition from other instruments and poor grasp of the concept.
The Fahari I-Reit managed to raise Sh3.6 billion through the offering, the company said in a notice. It termed the offer a success since it exceeded the minimum Sh2.6 billion target.
“Following the closing date of receipt of applications and payment for units in the Stanlib Fahari I-Reit on Wednesday 18 November 2015, Stanlib Kenya limited (the issuer) is pleased to announce that the offer exceeded the success threshold of Sh2.6 billion as it has received applications for units amounting to Sh3,619,446,000,” said Stanlib in an advert.

its worth returning all this raised money and declare it a procured abortion
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Sam_Kibs
#145 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:47:37 AM
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murchr wrote:
dunkang wrote:
This must be a new low. 30% subscription with all that publicity and spreading lies.

This can be compared to that HomeAfrika Bond that had 0% subscription.


Laughing out loudly

i said it. let them buy Greenspan @2B then 1.6B watafute plotssmile

when is the thing being listed in NSE? or they are still pondering on the next course of action?
“It’s no good, it’s no good!” says the buyer—
then goes off and boasts about the purchase-Proverbs 20:14
Aguytrying
#146 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:57:17 AM
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Sam_Kibs wrote:
murchr wrote:
dunkang wrote:
This must be a new low. 30% subscription with all that publicity and spreading lies.

This can be compared to that HomeAfrika Bond that had 0% subscription.


Laughing out loudly

i said it. let them buy Greenspan @2B then 1.6B watafute plotssmile

when is the thing being listed in NSE? or they are still pondering on the next course of action?


Trading starts today. In the daily nation business news, the title and article have been twisted to make the unsuspecting reader to think it's an oversubscription. In the article it even says it's oversubscribed page 37 paragraph 7. Ha ha.
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merkava
#147 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:12:47 AM
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dunkang wrote:
Shiwashei wrote:

REIT launched on October 22, two weeks later, November 12th my agent is hot on my heels trying to interest me six days to close of the offer....I smell that rat too @sam_kibs.

Newbie post....Helloooowww.Following closely,burnt before,learning of bears and bulls super fast!!

Also, News on the KCB App is on fiiiiiiiire! I don't know how they will benefit.

They are busy peddling the Tax exemption of the REIT!



you might need to read this

http://www.standardmedia...-reit-investors-from-tax
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Sober
#148 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:30:19 AM
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merkava wrote:
dunkang wrote:
[quote=Shiwashei]
REIT launched on October 22, two weeks later, November 12th my agent is hot on my heels trying to interest me six days to close of the offer....I smell that rat too @sam_kibs.

Newbie post....Helloooowww.Following closely,burnt before,learning of bears and bulls super fast!!

Also, News on the KCB App is on fiiiiiiiire! I don't know how they will benefit.

They are busy peddling the Tax exemption of the REIT!



you might need to read this

http://www.standardmedia...reit-investors-from-tax[/quote]

“As a tax efficient vehicle, the STANLIB Fahari I-REIT will provide Kenyans with an opportunity not only to diversify their investment but also open up the lucrative real estate sector to those who hitherto would not have access to it.

Why would i invest in a vehicle that relies on tax exemption to ensure it's profitability. Why is it being over-marketed?


African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
sl8r
#149 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 12:45:14 PM
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Joined: 5/20/2010
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Sober wrote:
merkava wrote:
dunkang wrote:
[quote=Shiwashei]
REIT launched on October 22, two weeks later, November 12th my agent is hot on my heels trying to interest me six days to close of the offer....I smell that rat too @sam_kibs.

Newbie post....Helloooowww.Following closely,burnt before,learning of bears and bulls super fast!!

Also, News on the KCB App is on fiiiiiiiire! I don't know how they will benefit.

They are busy peddling the Tax exemption of the REIT!



you might need to read this

http://www.standardmedia...reit-investors-from-tax[/quote]

“As a tax efficient vehicle, the STANLIB Fahari I-REIT will provide Kenyans with an opportunity not only to diversify their investment but also open up the lucrative real estate sector to those who hitherto would not have access to it.

Why would i invest in a vehicle that relies on tax exemption to ensure it's profitability. Why is it being over-marketed?




This tax exempt status means you dont pay the 5% capital gains tax (im assuming), which will be dropped and replaced with a withholding tax 0.3% form Jan 2016 true?

if so 0.3% is not a deal breaker for me, if they are using tax free status to sell this thing which reduces to 0.3% next year in any case.....well, I'll be damned, im better off buying it at 5/- a piece in January cash out later in maybe june and just pay that 0.3% tax

And how does this tie up with the land lord tax issue? who pays that tax?

Treasury scraps controversial 5pc capital gains tax after rejection
dunkang
#150 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 1:00:10 PM
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Less than 30% was taken as follows;

17.05% East African Individual investors (Wanjikus)
58.11% East African Institutional investors
24.84% Foreigners

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