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tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Occult science? Why? Why tremble? If Larry Page dreamt of google and it came to be as great as it is, why should you get scared of dreams? I've been studying dreams for a while now, for example I have on record like a hundred of my dreams and I can say it has been a great experience to do dreamwork- though I stopped putting the dreams on pen and paper. I still do dreamwork and even now I'm grappling with yesterday's and today's dreams which apparently are about a common theme. I use dreams sometimes to solve many of my problems. Dreams themselves aren't scary per se. I find it a waste of sleep if I can't recall my dreams. Fear and trembling comes the more I probe into the dynamics of dreams, and meditation. There, I have found myself looking at what some would call 'God', or 'life force'. And the sensation I get is almost overwhelming. Then when I consider the power in the dream and how it can be used? The trembling increases. Why the occult? For example when I consider the zygote, or the seed and what makes up for the development, I find a concept like 'Akashic space' useful and apt. And it's not the only idea that emerges as useful. How can a prophet see the future? These and many other situations like psychic phenomena belong to the dream world. Science as we know it can't handle these 'things' without changing its nature. It's much like enjoying driving without caring about the mechanics. But once one decides to engage in mechanics one enters in a different and more demanding world all together. Oh wao! haha! So what have your findings been? Any idea as to why you have the common theme? The common theme was a result of the focus of my conscious thoughts and desires, and apparently my deeper needs as an organism. Let me illustrate: 1. In my conscious thought I was trying to reconcile my relationships to my learning experience - I have been working on healing myself and learning has been part of therapy. The feelings accompanying these thoughts have included anger, resentment, frustration, exertion ... 2. The dreams have illustrated my sense of dependence on others and the effects. For example I have appeared as insecure, aloof, ostentatious but shallow, contentious ... 3. In what I may term as 'superconscious' the dreams have not just been descriptive, they have been prescriptive showing me gradually the changes I need to make. For example the dreams have directed me to see how I need to depend on others and how others depend on me. The superconscious also has changed my understanding of the conscious thoughts I've been having. The feelings I get are of relief, reconciliation, enlightenment ... Actually the common theme was pronounced in the last four days ending yesterday. Today I suspect I entered into new territory.  some Quantum physics theorists want us to believe that when you dream, you are interacting with another universe. Quote:There are some reasons to believe however that worlds can interact. As has been pointed out by others if a counterpart has a brain identical to mine and identical memories etc then by the law of the identity of indiscernibles the counterpart is me. As the counterpart develops a history that diverges from the parent world anything is possible but at the moment of inception he must be me. If he is me then interaction must be possible as I can infallibly know what the other is thinking (at least at the inception of the branching event) and that is a genuine piece of knowledge about the other world.
Another reason to believe that signal exchange between worlds might be possible is the following: According to the possible worlds framework to say that things could be otherwise for me is to say that there is literally a world where they are in fact different in the relevant way for me. But if no interaction with that other world is possible for me then the fact that the alternative world actually exists in the relevant way is not available to me and for all intents and purposes, freedom is an illusion and I live in a world of metaphysical necessity. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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