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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,380 Location: Nairobi
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enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:Just wondering if any creditor say a bank might have relied on Lang'ata Branch title to secure a loan against Uchumi. Was the branch built during the days of good old dj? The issue may not be the branch [or where it is located] but the 'other' land adjacent to Wilson. The original hypermart was built in the 90s when Suresh Shah was the MD when Uchumi was already a public company. Hope DJ didn't have any hand in this It would not surprise me. Not at all. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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VituVingiSana wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:Just wondering if any creditor say a bank might have relied on Lang'ata Branch title to secure a loan against Uchumi. Was the branch built during the days of good old dj? The issue may not be the branch [or where it is located] but the 'other' land adjacent to Wilson. The original hypermart was built in the 90s when Suresh Shah was the MD when Uchumi was already a public company. Hope DJ didn't have any hand in this It would not surprise me. Not at all. If that's the case let the shafting continue ....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,194 Location: nairobi
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enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:Just wondering if any creditor say a bank might have relied on Lang'ata Branch title to secure a loan against Uchumi. Was the branch built during the days of good old dj? The issue may not be the branch [or where it is located] but the 'other' land adjacent to Wilson. The original hypermart was built in the 90s when Suresh Shah was the MD when Uchumi was already a public company. Hope DJ didn't have any hand in this It would not surprise me. Not at all. If that's the case let the shafting continue .... kenyan land cases take ages,si wata collapse? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,380 Location: Nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:Just wondering if any creditor say a bank might have relied on Lang'ata Branch title to secure a loan against Uchumi. Was the branch built during the days of good old dj? The issue may not be the branch [or where it is located] but the 'other' land adjacent to Wilson. The original hypermart was built in the 90s when Suresh Shah was the MD when Uchumi was already a public company. Hope DJ didn't have any hand in this It would not surprise me. Not at all. If that's the case let the shafting continue .... kenyan land cases take ages,si wata collapse? This can be tied up in court for upto 5 years! Poor Uchumi if they are on the winning side because it means it needs to spend cash to fight the case and cannot sell the property until the case is over. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:Just wondering if any creditor say a bank might have relied on Lang'ata Branch title to secure a loan against Uchumi. Was the branch built during the days of good old dj? The issue may not be the branch [or where it is located] but the 'other' land adjacent to Wilson. The original hypermart was built in the 90s when Suresh Shah was the MD when Uchumi was already a public company. Hope DJ didn't have any hand in this It would not surprise me. Not at all. If that's the case let the shafting continue .... kenyan land cases take ages,si wata collapse? This can be tied up in court for upto 5 years! Poor Uchumi if they are on the winning side because it means it needs to spend cash to fight the case and cannot sell the property until the case is over. hence reason it still appears on yasserbigchair stocks to sell COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:Just wondering if any creditor say a bank might have relied on Lang'ata Branch title to secure a loan against Uchumi. Was the branch built during the days of good old dj? The issue may not be the branch [or where it is located] but the 'other' land adjacent to Wilson. The original hypermart was built in the 90s when Suresh Shah was the MD when Uchumi was already a public company. Hope DJ didn't have any hand in this It would not surprise me. Not at all. If that's the case let the shafting continue .... kenyan land cases take ages,si wata collapse? This can be tied up in court for upto 5 years! Poor Uchumi if they are on the winning side because it means it needs to spend cash to fight the case and cannot sell the property until the case is over. hence reason it still appears on yasserbigchair stocks to sell I would sell if I had shares here. This is a time bomb in the making . I feel sorry for the former kws, I guess he should go back to equity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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enyands wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:enyands wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:Just wondering if any creditor say a bank might have relied on Lang'ata Branch title to secure a loan against Uchumi. Was the branch built during the days of good old dj? The issue may not be the branch [or where it is located] but the 'other' land adjacent to Wilson. The original hypermart was built in the 90s when Suresh Shah was the MD when Uchumi was already a public company. Hope DJ didn't have any hand in this It would not surprise me. Not at all. If that's the case let the shafting continue .... kenyan land cases take ages,si wata collapse? This can be tied up in court for upto 5 years! Poor Uchumi if they are on the winning side because it means it needs to spend cash to fight the case and cannot sell the property until the case is over. hence reason it still appears on yasserbigchair stocks to sell I would sell if I had shares here. This is a time bomb in the making . I feel sorry for the former kws, I guess he should go back to equity I told you this guy is disruptive. Too quick to act. Simply asking around, would have made him aware that the Langata hyper land was illegally acquired. Heck, he could even have searched wazua! COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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I like CEO's like this. When the company is in financial trouble, drastic, decisive, swift efficient measures need to be taken. Ohana did the same with KK. The land issue is stumbling block,i hopw he overcomes The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,380 Location: Nairobi
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Aguytrying wrote:I like CEO's like this. When the company is in financial trouble, drastic, decisive, swift efficient measures need to be taken. Ohana did the same with KK.
The land issue is stumbling block,i hopw he overcomes "When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." - Warren Buffett Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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VituVingiSana wrote:Aguytrying wrote:I like CEO's like this. When the company is in financial trouble, drastic, decisive, swift efficient measures need to be taken. Ohana did the same with KK.
The land issue is stumbling block,i hopw he overcomes "When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." - Warren Buffett Does that really apply in this case, airlines have bad reputation and maybe tourism right now. But retail? I think Uchumi just has many ghosts that need exorcising, I wish him well, I like his moves, he's my kind of CEO. Meanwhile while am happy to buy recoverd profit making kk at the same price that investors think loss making recovering Uchumi is worth (8.00). I'll take those thank-you very much The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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