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#51 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:40:56 AM
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There are contradictions in your first and second arguments @Ngogs. In your first, religion is a fallacy. In the second, we shoul go back to African Traditional RELIGIONS....

So where do you stand?
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Impunity
#52 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 12:05:06 PM
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Eti eagles of death concert?
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Tokyo
#53 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:26:39 PM
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if you have ever met God or visited heaven/paradise then you're worth listening. Otherwise God is Propaganda and brutal lies
work to prosper
tycho
#54 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 8:20:15 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
if you have ever met God or visited heaven/paradise then you're worth listening. Otherwise God is Propaganda and brutal lies


Even the drooling fool is worth listening to.
matatuman
#55 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 8:38:41 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
if you have ever met God or visited heaven/paradise then you're worth listening. Otherwise God is Propaganda and brutal lies


Easy bro... i should buy you a drink next time i am in the land of the rising sun. There is a movie titled "God is not Dead". You can get it on torrents, not trying to sway your thoughts, just watch it.
Mukiri
#56 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:12:20 AM
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Sometimes it's us religious folk, that drive people away from religion.

My Bible tells me that it is God, who 'calls' people unto Him. Without that, our endevours are only acts of 'love', wanting fellow men to follow in our supposedly 'rightful' footsteps.

But yenyewe when you step back, and look at these 'acts of love'.... Sema kushangaa!

I now live, and let live. As long as @Hamburgler's meets his basic needs, hiyo nyegine unawachia Allah

Proverbs 19:21
Anti_Burglar
#57 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:52:00 AM
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Between atheism and islam, I would rather have Hamburglar an atheist. To devolve him to sub-human Islam would make the world less safe by adding one more potential terrorist. Ukweli isemwe.
hamburglar
#58 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 4:33:38 PM
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Am saddened by Paris. Maybe one day humanity will wake up and understand that religion and gods are a scourge on society. We don't need religions and gods for us to be good human beings, all we need is a human heart. If we can teach future generations to be good people because being a good human being is the right thing to do as opposed to teaching them to be good so as to appease a god in the hope that this god in return will reward them back with a ticket into heaven when they die, then maybe then we will eventually have peace on earth.

Teach your kids to be good without expecting any favors in return, to always do the right thing even when there is nobody watching, and if they end up going to this mythical hell because they were good people who chose not to get into a shady quid pro quo deal with some god, then at the end of the day, they will be better people than that god and should proudly walk into hell with their head held high up.

Nobody wants to associate with a dictatorial god who wants to be worshipped so as to dish back favors. There is no integrity in that. I am an atheist and i consciously live my life as positively as i can without having a god in my life and without expecting anything in return. I always choose the right way, that can't be said of 99% of my theist friends who are only "holy" when the situation suits them and only when they are hoping for blessings and favors in return. What a sorry way to live life. Unfortunate but true. Ni hayo tu.
tycho
#59 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:53:58 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
Am saddened by Paris. Maybe one day humanity will wake up and understand that religion and gods are a scourge on society. We don't need religions and gods for us to be good human beings, all we need is a human heart. If we can teach future generations to be good people because being a good human being is the right thing to do as opposed to teaching them to be good so as to appease a god in the hope that this god in return will reward them back with a ticket into heaven when they die, then maybe then we will eventually have peace on earth.

Teach your kids to be good without expecting any favors in return, to always do the right thing even when there is nobody watching, and if they end up going to this mythical hell because they were good people who chose not to get into a shady quid pro quo deal with some god, then at the end of the day, they will be better people than that god and should proudly walk into hell with their head held high up.

Nobody wants to associate with a dictatorial god who wants to be worshipped so as to dish back favors. There is no integrity in that. I am an atheist and i consciously live my life as positively as i can without having a god in my life and without expecting anything in return. I always choose the right way, that can't be said of 99% of my theist friends who are only "holy" when the situation suits them and only when they are hoping for blessings and favors in return. What a sorry way to live life. Unfortunate but true. Ni hayo tu.


One would be tempted to think that humanity is a given quality, automatically and perhaps mysteriously arising from the primeval soup. But that's hardly the case.

Humanity is intangible, and by itself, invisible. It's even incomplete. Many here seem to know about God - even the atheists, but so little seems to be known about being human.

With time I have come to realize that there's something like pop-education - a rough amalgam of half baked ideas and concepts wrought of mass production that's giving the masses a false sense of pride and security and confidence but is in fact a heap of trash. It's this miseducation that's fueling this forgetfulness and recklessness about what humanity entails.

There's a saying that 'mtoto akililia wembe. . .' That's the answer for the reckless and ignorant. It won't be long before wailing starts.
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#60 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 11:35:54 PM
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tycho wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Am saddened by Paris. Maybe one day humanity will wake up and understand that religion and gods are a scourge on society. We don't need religions and gods for us to be good human beings, all we need is a human heart. If we can teach future generations to be good people because being a good human being is the right thing to do as opposed to teaching them to be good so as to appease a god in the hope that this god in return will reward them back with a ticket into heaven when they die, then maybe then we will eventually have peace on earth.

Teach your kids to be good without expecting any favors in return, to always do the right thing even when there is nobody watching, and if they end up going to this mythical hell because they were good people who chose not to get into a shady quid pro quo deal with some god, then at the end of the day, they will be better people than that god and should proudly walk into hell with their head held high up.

Nobody wants to associate with a dictatorial god who wants to be worshipped so as to dish back favors. There is no integrity in that. I am an atheist and i consciously live my life as positively as i can without having a god in my life and without expecting anything in return. I always choose the right way, that can't be said of 99% of my theist friends who are only "holy" when the situation suits them and only when they are hoping for blessings and favors in return. What a sorry way to live life. Unfortunate but true. Ni hayo tu.


One would be tempted to think that humanity is a given quality, automatically and perhaps mysteriously arising from the primeval soup. But that's hardly the case.

Humanity is intangible, and by itself, invisible. It's even incomplete. Many here seem to know about God - even the atheists, but so little seems to be known about being human.

With time I have come to realize that there's something like pop-education - a rough amalgam of half baked ideas and concepts wrought of mass production that's giving the masses a false sense of pride and security and confidence but is in fact a heap of trash. It's this miseducation that's fueling this forgetfulness and recklessness about what humanity entails.

There's a saying that 'mtoto akililia wembe. . .' That's the answer for the reckless and ignorant. It won't be long before wailing starts.


http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...sts&t=32710&p=1

Same 'trash' different pitch.
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