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Anti_Burglar wrote:Lolest! wrote:It really shocks me the way alphdoti tries to associate himself with hambuglar like habuglar is some sort of celeb with greater thinking capacity than him! And he is always trying to court the guy but hambuger is not an anti-Christian. He is not confused about God becoming man and God dying for man only. He just doesn't get why anyone would believe in a supreme being and the spirit world. I guess he just believes in science? Big bang? In the beginning there was nothing then it all happened? Doti, if hambuger is right then you Mohammedans Sikhs, Hindus, Jews, African Traditional Religion followers are all WRONGGGGG!!! hamburglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:hamburglar wrote:Masukuma. Unfortunately i wasn't able to watch that youtube video for some weird reason but i will try it again and see if i finally watch it and get converted so that i also go to heaven and get to live in that big mansion and drive on those cool gold plated roads. Bummer, now it seems like i will just go to hell and face the music, i mean fire. But damn, came so close to salvation. Oh well, maybe next time.  @ham, I totally understand your position. One time I was almost like you, you see I was raised in a Christian family, and as I grew up, started using my brain, analyzed things critically, criticized some things being taught in Church, I realized some things were not making sense... For example, imagine how vast his universe is, imagine how tiny our Earth is when you magnify the universe million times, and now imagine a God who created that vast universe " walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden" with his footsteps boom, boom, Then the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?" Can you imagine a God like that? I refused to believe in a God like! I was almost becoming an atheist until I decided to read about the Quran... So brother, read all the religious books and make decision, informed decision, not emotional manipulation carried by some expert religious leaders.. Alph. You would be surprised at just how well versed i am on religions and religious matters. I didn't become an atheist by accident, ridiculous and evil religions made me an atheist The same way you reject the christian god and vice versa is the same way i reject all gods. I just happen to have one less god than you all. Fact is, a lot of religious people have doubts about their gods from time to time, but us atheists are unequivocal and firm about our non- belief. To quote the bible, it would be easier for the proverbial camel to go through that needle hole than it would be for me to convert to religion. It's absolutely impossible, my values wouldn't let me worship evil imaginary gods. But like i always say, to each their own, as long as we are all happy with our religions or lack thereof, then it's all good. For all intents and purposes, Habmuglar is Alphdoti's god. He is always swooning over him as if he has some secret man lust only Habmuglar can quench. @Anti_Burglar do you have a disease of calling anything a god? It is not enough for you calling Jesus a God, now you have made @ham a god? This is really a big problem you have.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@lonest! you are the kind of people making kina @ham become atheists. The ridiculous things you guys swallow is amazing and you are supposed to be learned. Take for example what I have highlighted up in your message in red.
You truly believe a man who ate food and went to the toilet was your God? Somebody died for your sins? Your God was killed? So if you get yourself gonorrhea, Jesus gets the jab and you heal? How come you still toil to eat? So now saved women give birth without pain?
Please @lonest stop embarrassing your intellect.
@ham is seeking to use his brain. God Almighty is not those things you are preaching about a god who had sex with a woman to bear another god! If God Almighty created this universe by just saying "BE", what is a baby in a womb! Man, you are the greatest thinker....you even read somewhere that God had sex with a woman. Must be what that conman Muhammad told you guys. Yeah, the great intellect in you has no issues believeing in someone who says he got prophecies from Shaitani mwenyewe And that fellow's god, the moon god became your god. You pray as many times as he was prayed to and venerate his shrines(kaaba) as it was back then, yeah even fast according to the sighting of the moon!! @lonest, are you a Christian? You must know John 3:16 " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." You have proven to us that you are indeed very confused Is God's only way of having a son having sex like man?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@lonest! you are the kind of people making kina @ham become atheists. The ridiculous things you guys swallow is amazing and you are supposed to be learned. Take for example what I have highlighted up in your message in red.
You truly believe a man who ate food and went to the toilet was your God? Somebody died for your sins? Your God was killed? So if you get yourself gonorrhea, Jesus gets the jab and you heal? How come you still toil to eat? So now saved women give birth without pain?
Please @lonest stop embarrassing your intellect.
@ham is seeking to use his brain. God Almighty is not those things you are preaching about a god who had sex with a woman to bear another god! If God Almighty created this universe by just saying "BE", what is a baby in a womb! Man, you are the greatest thinker....you even read somewhere that God had sex with a woman. Must be what that conman Muhammad told you guys. Yeah, the great intellect in you has no issues believeing in someone who says he got prophecies from Shaitani mwenyewe And that fellow's god, the moon god became your god. You pray as many times as he was prayed to and venerate his shrines(kaaba) as it was back then, yeah even fast according to the sighting of the moon!! @lonest, are you a Christian? You must know John 3:16 " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." You have proven to us that you are indeed very confused Is God's only way of having a son having sex like man? @lonest, are you saying John 3:16 does not say "God begot a son"? How did he beget? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@lonest! you are the kind of people making kina @ham become atheists. The ridiculous things you guys swallow is amazing and you are supposed to be learned. Take for example what I have highlighted up in your message in red.
You truly believe a man who ate food and went to the toilet was your God? Somebody died for your sins? Your God was killed? So if you get yourself gonorrhea, Jesus gets the jab and you heal? How come you still toil to eat? So now saved women give birth without pain?
Please @lonest stop embarrassing your intellect.
@ham is seeking to use his brain. God Almighty is not those things you are preaching about a god who had sex with a woman to bear another god! If God Almighty created this universe by just saying "BE", what is a baby in a womb! Man, you are the greatest thinker....you even read somewhere that God had sex with a woman. Must be what that conman Muhammad told you guys. Yeah, the great intellect in you has no issues believeing in someone who says he got prophecies from Shaitani mwenyewe And that fellow's god, the moon god became your god. You pray as many times as he was prayed to and venerate his shrines(kaaba) as it was back then, yeah even fast according to the sighting of the moon!! @lonest, are you a Christian? You must know John 3:16 " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." You have proven to us that you are indeed very confused Is God's only way of having a son having sex like man? @lonest, are you saying John 3:16 does not say "God begot a son"? How did he beget? NOWHERE do scriptures say God had sex the greek word meaning special/one of a kind/ sole descent used had no particular English equivalent hence the use of the word begotten
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Religious thread goes south as usual. Hamburglar is not even commenting na bado mnapayukapayuka tu.
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what are we converting burglar into? a reformed burglar or a convertible car? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:what are we converting burglar into? a reformed burglar or a convertible car? Anything else except islam.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Mike Ock wrote:Religious thread goes south as usual. Hamburglar is not even commenting na bado mnapayukapayuka tu. had the same thoughts.... . I would like to know how effective @Lolest's and @Alphadoti's initiatives to paint the other's God badly and paint their understanding of God better is 1) helping to convert the person with whom they are having the debate 2) helping to convert Hamburgler? Let's just face it.... hizi dini tulilietwa zote in nicely packaged books with a narrative behind them. if you just choose to look not at the shiny book and examine the roots of the narrative - you will be shocked at the roots of what is now considered an authority. But that is another topic... I also think! Anti_burglar is Muriel All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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So in this contest, which religion is supreme? Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@lonest! you are the kind of people making kina @ham become atheists. The ridiculous things you guys swallow is amazing and you are supposed to be learned. Take for example what I have highlighted up in your message in red.
You truly believe a man who ate food and went to the toilet was your God? Somebody died for your sins? Your God was killed? So if you get yourself gonorrhea, Jesus gets the jab and you heal? How come you still toil to eat? So now saved women give birth without pain?
Please @lonest stop embarrassing your intellect.
@ham is seeking to use his brain. God Almighty is not those things you are preaching about a god who had sex with a woman to bear another god! If God Almighty created this universe by just saying "BE", what is a baby in a womb! Man, you are the greatest thinker....you even read somewhere that God had sex with a woman. Must be what that conman Muhammad told you guys. Yeah, the great intellect in you has no issues believeing in someone who says he got prophecies from Shaitani mwenyewe And that fellow's god, the moon god became your god. You pray as many times as he was prayed to and venerate his shrines(kaaba) as it was back then, yeah even fast according to the sighting of the moon!! @lonest, are you a Christian? You must know John 3:16 " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." You have proven to us that you are indeed very confused Is God's only way of having a son having sex like man? @lonest, are you saying John 3:16 does not say "God begot a son"? How did he beget? NOWHERE do scriptures say God had sex the greek word meaning special/one of a kind/ sole descent used had no particular English equivalent hence the use of the word begotten That is very good, you are doing very well so far. So stop trying to portray that Jesus is the ONLY son of God. Recognize his other brothers below: 1. David: " ...Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee". Psalms 2:7 2. Adam: " ...Adam, which was the SON OF GOD." LUKE 3:38 3. Nameless: " ...the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men..." GENESIS 6:2 and 4 4. Jacob: " ...Israel is MY SON even my FIRSTBORN." EXODUS 4:22 5. Abraham: " ...and Ephraim is my FIRSTBORN," JEREMIAH 31:9 6. Billions: " For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the SONS OF GOD.' ROMANS 8:14 The next thing is for you to stop saying TRINITY.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Swenani wrote:what are we converting burglar into? a reformed burglar or a convertible car? Anything else except islam. @anti, why do you say that? Is it because Islam discouraged you from from having many gods for yourself, and you wanted to coin a new one here
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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You converted because makaburi told you God of the bible had sex You went to the moon god where you die in hordes yearly stoning Satan, the same Satan who your prophet that you worship said he received messages from You believe the Bible is right and then claim again it is wrong You are burdened with lots of Arabic cultural things which you force on adherents and claim it is of God The prophet of Satan is the greatest conman of all time!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:You converted because makaburi told you God of the bible had sex
You went to the moon god where you die in hordes yearly stoning Satan, the same Satan who your prophet that you worship said he received messages from
You believe the Bible is right and then claim again it is wrong
You are burdened with lots of Arabic cultural things which you force on adherents and claim it is of God
The prophet of Satan is the greatest conman of all time!! Is all that written in the Quran, ama hizi you picked them from roadside audience? Truly these are last kicks of dying horse
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:You converted because makaburi told you God of the bible had sex
You went to the moon god where you die in hordes yearly stoning Satan, the same Satan who your prophet that you worship said he received messages from
You believe the Bible is right and then claim again it is wrong
You are burdened with lots of Arabic cultural things which you force on adherents and claim it is of God
The prophet of Satan is the greatest conman of all time!! Is all that written in the Quran, ama hizi you picked them from roadside audience? Truly these are last kicks of dying horse When you finally meet conman Muhammad, please ask him to tell Shaitani to be more consistent I like the way we are now finally agreeing, even on whose prophet Muhammad is
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:You converted because makaburi told you God of the bible had sex
You went to the moon god where you die in hordes yearly stoning Satan, the same Satan who your prophet that you worship said he received messages from
You believe the Bible is right and then claim again it is wrong
You are burdened with lots of Arabic cultural things which you force on adherents and claim it is of God
The prophet of Satan is the greatest conman of all time!! Is all that written in the Quran, ama hizi you picked them from roadside audience? Truly these are last kicks of dying horse When you finally meet conman Muhammad, please ask him to tell Shaitani to be more consistent I like the way we are now finally agreeing, even on whose prophet Muhammad is @lonest, is a question equal to agreeing in your vocabulary? I have highlighted the question in RED above. All you have ranted up there are all roadside imaginations, it is not in Islam. And I dare you to get to Quran and produce evidence.
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Dang! Why can't you guys just be awed at me? Why can't you just be amazed and move on?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@lonest! you are the kind of people making kina @ham become atheists. The ridiculous things you guys swallow is amazing and you are supposed to be learned. Take for example what I have highlighted up in your message in red.
You truly believe a man who ate food and went to the toilet was your God? Somebody died for your sins? Your God was killed? So if you get yourself gonorrhea, Jesus gets the jab and you heal? How come you still toil to eat? So now saved women give birth without pain?
Please @lonest stop embarrassing your intellect.
@ham is seeking to use his brain. God Almighty is not those things you are preaching about a god who had sex with a woman to bear another god! If God Almighty created this universe by just saying "BE", what is a baby in a womb! Man, you are the greatest thinker....you even read somewhere that God had sex with a woman. Must be what that conman Muhammad told you guys. Yeah, the great intellect in you has no issues believeing in someone who says he got prophecies from Shaitani mwenyewe And that fellow's god, the moon god became your god. You pray as many times as he was prayed to and venerate his shrines(kaaba) as it was back then, yeah even fast according to the sighting of the moon!! @lonest, are you a Christian? You must know John 3:16 " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."  Quote:be·get
bəˈɡet/
verbliterary
verb: beget; 3rd person present: begets; past tense: begot; past tense: begat; gerund or present participle: begetting; past participle: begotten
1.
(typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.
"they hoped that the King might beget an heir by his new queen"
synonyms: father, sire, have, bring into the world, give life to, bring into being, spawn
"he begat a son"
2.
give rise to; bring about.
"success begets further success"
synonyms: cause, give rise to, lead to, result in, bring about, create, produce, generate, engender, spawn, occasion, bring on, precipitate, prompt, provoke, kindle, trigger, spark off, touch off, stir up, whip up, induce, inspire, promote; literaryenkindle
"violence begets violence" Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Impunity wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@lonest! you are the kind of people making kina @ham become atheists. The ridiculous things you guys swallow is amazing and you are supposed to be learned. Take for example what I have highlighted up in your message in red.
You truly believe a man who ate food and went to the toilet was your God? Somebody died for your sins? Your God was killed? So if you get yourself gonorrhea, Jesus gets the jab and you heal? How come you still toil to eat? So now saved women give birth without pain?
Please @lonest stop embarrassing your intellect.
@ham is seeking to use his brain. God Almighty is not those things you are preaching about a god who had sex with a woman to bear another god! If God Almighty created this universe by just saying "BE", what is a baby in a womb! Man, you are the greatest thinker....you even read somewhere that God had sex with a woman. Must be what that conman Muhammad told you guys. Yeah, the great intellect in you has no issues believeing in someone who says he got prophecies from Shaitani mwenyewe And that fellow's god, the moon god became your god. You pray as many times as he was prayed to and venerate his shrines(kaaba) as it was back then, yeah even fast according to the sighting of the moon!! @lonest, are you a Christian? You must know John 3:16 " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Quote:be·get
bəˈɡet/
verbliterary
verb: beget; 3rd person present: begets; past tense: begot; past tense: begat; gerund or present participle: begetting; past participle: begotten
1.
(typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.
"they hoped that the King might beget an heir by his new queen"
synonyms: father, sire, have, bring into the world, give life to, bring into being, spawn
"he begat a son"
2.
give rise to; bring about.
"success begets further success"
synonyms: cause, give rise to, lead to, result in, bring about, create, produce, generate, engender, spawn, occasion, bring on, precipitate, prompt, provoke, kindle, trigger, spark off, touch off, stir up, whip up, induce, inspire, promote; literaryenkindle
"violence begets violence" @impunity, this is already closed here
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Othelo wrote:So in this contest, which religion is supreme? yep! seems like it! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/22/2011 Posts: 561 Location: House
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The fallacy that is religion will kill people (okay i know it is already). Sometimes i ask why do we have a mind/brain? we want to think when its about other things..like biashara or deal but when it comes to religion; we trust! we don't question!. Why should we say the chosen tribe of Israel??? and where do the Africans even fit in all that bible story ...because its just that ...a story I always picture a group of bored old timers in Europe or whetever sitting down and deciding this thing (religion) will held control and tame mankind. and this applies to all religions so dont come here @alpha with your blue and green lines
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