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Kenya Airways HY 2015 gloomy loss of 11.9bn
mlennyma
#41 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:57:34 PM
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obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Obiero should have tapped out by now


Too late, should have done that last week!

Made it safely out

you must be bleeding at every available body opening smile
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
dunkang
#42 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:03:33 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Obiero should have tapped out by now


Too late, should have done that last week!

Made it safely out

you must be bleeding at every available body opening smile

WAH! Finally, Obiero dumps KQ. I also need to be brave enough and dump Mumias! Lakini hiyo loss jameni!
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

Othelo
#43 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:15:46 PM
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dunkang wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Obiero should have tapped out by now


Too late, should have done that last week!

Made it safely out

you must be bleeding at every available body opening smile

WAH! Finally, Obiero dumps KQ. I also need to be brave enough and dump Mumias! Lakini hiyo loss jameni!

smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Aguytrying
#44 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:10:28 PM
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dunkang wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Obiero should have tapped out by now


Too late, should have done that last week!

Made it safely out

you must be bleeding at every available body opening smile

WAH! Finally, Obiero dumps KQ. I also need to be brave enough and dump Mumias! Lakini hiyo loss jameni!


The most important thing is to learn the lesson, to reduce the chances of it ever happening again. " avoid gava firms and shady firms"
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Impunity
#45 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:11:35 PM
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Accountants in the house, that income tax of 96 million shillings was paid for what? How can one pay income tax when you are at a loss?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#46 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:17:00 PM
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Othelo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Obiero should have tapped out by now


Too late, should have done that last week!

Made it safely out

you have tried to milk a bull for so long.one dj must be saying this is bullshit men!!!

OBIERO'S portfolio: COOP 7,200, HF 1,300, KEGN 1,600, KQ 500Applause Applause Applause


500 shares a@4 bobo = 2000 shillings net worth!
Sad Sad
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

watesh
#47 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:19:15 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
dunkang wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Obiero should have tapped out by now


Too late, should have done that last week!

Made it safely out

you must be bleeding at every available body opening smile

WAH! Finally, Obiero dumps KQ. I also need to be brave enough and dump Mumias! Lakini hiyo loss jameni!


The most important thing is to learn the lesson, to reduce the chances of it ever happening again. " avoid gava firms and shady firms"

Stock price should go down to Ksh1
Cornelius Vanderbilt
#48 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:26:25 PM
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souring to new losses! thank goodness for averaging down.NEVER TAKE A LOSS
Swenani
#49 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:27:22 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Accountants in the house, that income tax of 96 million shillings was paid for what? How can one pay income tax when you are at a loss?


Maybe it was deferred income tax.

P.S.I'mnot an accountant but a fish monger
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Impunity
#50 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:28:01 PM
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Looking at the results with a clearer goggles, I can see that the ndevo is 4.8 Billion, so called other cost...what cost is this?

The operating cost, which ideally is what the management has direct control over has been reduced drastically from 10.5 billion loss to a mere 2 billion loss; the finance cost is 3.5 billion and is a once-off...this is the cost incurred in acquiring the 200 million dollar loan majorly;Fuel derivative contract was signed on stone so @Obiero cant do much as at now...Shida ni hii OTHER COST...if its a once-off then I can say this is the lowest point for the Obiero GEM...it can only move up now.

Ceteris Paribus, the half year LOSS is actually 2. billion only!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

hisah
#51 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:29:21 PM
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This order got filled at 13:38, 61,800 shares @4.05. That's 22.86% down from previous close @5.25.

From the look of things the order @4 will get filled.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Impunity
#52 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:39:32 PM
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hisah wrote:
This order got filled at 13:38, 61,800 shares @4.05. That's 22.86% down from previous close @5.25.

From the look of things the order @4 will get filled.


Anything below 3 and I'm in like a thong.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

mlennyma
#53 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:47:06 PM
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Impunity wrote:
hisah wrote:
This order got filled at 13:38, 61,800 shares @4.05. That's 22.86% down from previous close @5.25.

From the look of things the order @4 will get filled.


Anything below 3 and I'm in like a thong.

you need metal balls to dare this one.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
whiteowl
#54 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:26:00 PM
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Improved loss Applause Applause
Swenani
#55 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:37:35 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
Improved loss Applause Applause


Can -3-3=-6 be considered an improved loss?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Impunity
#56 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:45:24 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
Improved loss Applause Applause


Exactment...operating loss greatly improved.
Next half naona ni profit!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#57 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:10:25 PM
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Chief Turnaround Office
possunt quia posse videntur
streetwise
#58 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:45:00 PM
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Yah CTO is what KQ needs
whiteowl
#59 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:05:24 PM
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Swenani wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
Improved loss Applause Applause


Can -3-3=-6 be considered an improved loss?


yes.they're chasing Safcom profits on the opposite direction. look out for a -32billion FY.
enyands
#60 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:11:16 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
Swenani wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
Improved loss Applause Applause


Can -3-3=-6 be considered an improved loss?


yes.they're chasing Safcom profits on the opposite direction. look out for a -32billion FY.



why cant that board do the honorable thing by resigning and paving way for a more credible board members? of course they saw the losses coming and they did nothing about it so I think they should just resign
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