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Impunity
#41 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:57:37 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
jano wrote:
i don't like the way her being barren is always highlighted in every article..being able to sire a child is not a right but a blessing.


Then if it is a blessing then she is cursed because she doesn't have her own? Wait till her enemies hear that!



Ohhh my...cursed!

Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray
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masukuma
#42 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:04:36 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
jano wrote:
i don't like the way her being barren is always highlighted in every article..being able to sire a child is not a right but a blessing.


Then if it is a blessing then she is cursed because she doesn't have her own? Wait till her enemies hear that!



Ohhh my...cursed!

Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray

let's assume she is 'cursed' as you say.... how does that affect positively/negatively the argument that
Quote:
Raila makes [someone's] stomach churn.

or that
Quote:
Raila seemed unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words.

or that
Quote:
Raila has always been better at opposing than creating
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Swenani
#43 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:07:10 PM
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Othelo
#44 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:10:49 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
jano wrote:
i don't like the way her being barren is always highlighted in every article..being able to sire a child is not a right but a blessing.


Then if it is a blessing then she is cursed because she doesn't have her own? Wait till her enemies hear that!



Ohhh my...cursed!

Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray

let's assume she is 'cursed' as you say.... how does that affect positively/negatively the argument that
Quote:
Raila makes [someone's] stomach churn.

or that
Quote:
Raila seemed unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words.

or that
Quote:
Raila has always been better at opposing than creating

Cursed by who? @masukuma i can see you are really enjoying her Raila bashing. Isorite!!!!
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Anti_Burglar
#45 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:13:46 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
jano wrote:
i don't like the way her being barren is always highlighted in every article..being able to sire a child is not a right but a blessing.


Then if it is a blessing then she is cursed because she doesn't have her own? Wait till her enemies hear that!



Ohhh my...cursed!

Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray

let's assume she is 'cursed' as you say.... how does that affect positively/negatively the argument that
Quote:
Raila makes [someone's] stomach churn.

or that
Quote:
Raila seemed unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words.

or that
Quote:
Raila has always been better at opposing than creating


The audience have religious attachments (never mind the sincerity) and then there will be pretty much nothing more to be done about it.
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Swenani
#46 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:18:27 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
jano wrote:
i don't like the way her being barren is always highlighted in every article..being able to sire a child is not a right but a blessing.


Then if it is a blessing then she is cursed because she doesn't have her own? Wait till her enemies hear that!



Ohhh my...cursed!

Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray

let's assume she is 'cursed' as you say.... how does that affect positively/negatively the argument that
Quote:
Raila makes [someone's] stomach churn.

or that
Quote:
Raila seemed unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words.

or that
Quote:
Raila has always been better at opposing than creating


The audience have religious attachments (never mind the sincerity) and then there will be pretty much nothing more to be done about it.



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masukuma
#47 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:23:36 PM
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Othelo wrote:

Cursed by who? @masukuma i can see you are really enjoying her Raila bashing. Isorite!!!!

haha... sasa imekuwa ni mimi!! now we have shifted away from the claims to me? really? I am just reminding people what good arguments should look like... the correct format of arguing should be
claim:
Quote:
Raila seemed unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words.

counter claim
Quote:
Raila is not unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words BECAUSE [INSERT FACTUAL OBSERVATION HERE]


claim
Quote:
Raila has always been better at opposing than creating

counter claim
Quote:
Raila is not only good at opposing but he has created [INSERT FACTUAL OBSERVATION(S) HERE OF SOMETHING CREATED]
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masukuma
#48 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:27:44 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:


The audience have religious attachments (never mind the sincerity) and then there will be pretty much nothing more to be done about it.


the 'factualness' or 'truity' of an argument/claim has nothing to do with how many people accept it as factual/true... it has everything to do with EVIDENCE!
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Impunity
#49 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:34:05 PM
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Posts: 26,331
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masukuma wrote:
Othelo wrote:

Cursed by who? @masukuma i can see you are really enjoying her Raila bashing. Isorite!!!!

haha... sasa imekuwa ni mimi!! now we have shifted away from the claims to me? really? I am just reminding people what good arguments should look like... the correct format of arguing should be
claim:
Quote:
Raila seemed unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words.

counter claim
Quote:
Raila is not unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words BECAUSE [INSERT FACTUAL OBSERVATION HERE]


claim
Quote:
Raila has always been better at opposing than creating

counter claim
Quote:
Raila is not only good at opposing but he has created [INSERT FACTUAL OBSERVATION(S) HERE OF SOMETHING CREATED]


Let the Jubilants also argue that:

Quote:
CM is a barren woman.


Quote:
CM is not a barren woman because [insert insert insert]
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masukuma
#50 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:37:30 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Othelo wrote:

Cursed by who? @masukuma i can see you are really enjoying her Raila bashing. Isorite!!!!

haha... sasa imekuwa ni mimi!! now we have shifted away from the claims to me? really? I am just reminding people what good arguments should look like... the correct format of arguing should be
claim:
Quote:
Raila seemed unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words.

counter claim
Quote:
Raila is not unfocused, obsessed with politics, dazzled by his own voice and words BECAUSE [INSERT FACTUAL OBSERVATION HERE]


claim
Quote:
Raila has always been better at opposing than creating

counter claim
Quote:
Raila is not only good at opposing but he has created [INSERT FACTUAL OBSERVATION(S) HERE OF SOMETHING CREATED]


Let the Jubilants also argue that:

Quote:
CM is a barren woman.


Quote:
CM is not a barren woman because [insert insert insert]

your introduction of new arguements instead of addressing/servicing the primary arguments raised is the typical description of a red herring PLO Lumumba once called it 'THROWING A SQUIRREL ON THE PATH SO THAT WE CAN FORGET ABOUT THE ANTELOPE'
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