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Shak
#11 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 5:58:10 PM
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He says part of the money will be used to buy nhif cover for those cancer sufferers who don't have it
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mawinder
#12 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 6:21:43 PM
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Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
mawinder wrote:
sheri wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Who manages that kitty?

The money is handed to KNH less Kageni's management fees.


What %age is his management fee?
d'oh!

No money shall be given to KNH. It will buy medical equipment for the children cancer treatment unit. According to Maina the equipment will be purchased directly from the manufacturer.

This is public money and for transparency sake and ensuring our money is used well, how will the manufacturer be chosen as I know there must be many manufacturers.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly By the way how much have you contributed?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I have contributed 200 Bob and I have a right to demand transparency. Maina cannot be trusted with such funds and the tendering must be conducted. Someone should go to court if they buy direct from the manufacturer as this is illegal.
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geofreygachie
#13 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 6:37:06 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
mawinder wrote:
sheri wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Who manages that kitty?

The money is handed to KNH less Kageni's management fees.


What %age is his management fee?
d'oh!

No money shall be given to KNH. It will buy medical equipment for the children cancer treatment unit. According to Maina the equipment will be purchased directly from the manufacturer.

This is public money and for transparency sake and ensuring our money is used well, how will the manufacturer be chosen as I know there must be many manufacturers.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly By the way how much have you contributed?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I have contributed 200 Bob and I have a right to demand transparency. Maina cannot be trusted with such funds and the tendering must be conducted. Someone should go to court if they buy direct from the manufacturer as this is illegal.


Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray
Divers - can you laugh in scuba gear, or will you drown? I was wondering. - James May.
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hardwood
#14 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 6:53:35 PM
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geofreygachie wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
mawinder wrote:
sheri wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Who manages that kitty?

The money is handed to KNH less Kageni's management fees.


What %age is his management fee?
d'oh!

No money shall be given to KNH. It will buy medical equipment for the children cancer treatment unit. According to Maina the equipment will be purchased directly from the manufacturer.

This is public money and for transparency sake and ensuring our money is used well, how will the manufacturer be chosen as I know there must be many manufacturers.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly By the way how much have you contributed?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I have contributed 200 Bob and I have a right to demand transparency. Maina cannot be trusted with such funds and the tendering must be conducted. Someone should go to court if they buy direct from the manufacturer as this is illegal.


Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray


Yenyewe even donors from kiashland also demand to know how their donations are spent, even how equipment are procured. Local donors should also demand transparency and accountability.
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mawinder
#15 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 7:27:13 PM
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Posts: 6,029
hardwood wrote:
geofreygachie wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
mawinder wrote:
sheri wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Who manages that kitty?

The money is handed to KNH less Kageni's management fees.


What %age is his management fee?
d'oh!

No money shall be given to KNH. It will buy medical equipment for the children cancer treatment unit. According to Maina the equipment will be purchased directly from the manufacturer.

This is public money and for transparency sake and ensuring our money is used well, how will the manufacturer be chosen as I know there must be many manufacturers.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly By the way how much have you contributed?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I have contributed 200 Bob and I have a right to demand transparency. Maina cannot be trusted with such funds and the tendering must be conducted. Someone should go to court if they buy direct from the manufacturer as this is illegal.


Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray


Yenyewe even donors from kiashland also demand to know how their donations are spent, even how equipment are procured. Local donors should also demand transparency and accountability.

If he is not audited properly and procurement not done correctly then a friend whose fortunes have dwindled is considering a similar mission to raise campaign funds.
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sitaki.kujulikana
#16 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 8:29:04 PM
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@mawinder is right on this, kenyans are too emotional and superstitious, afraid of witchcraft. If they question money raised for ugonjwa especially for kid they think it will come back to them.

Even if one did not contribute the cash, making sure the cash is accounted for is also a contribution, and a healthy thing. Otherwise theft and curruption when it comes to public funds starts like that, no questions attitude.
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Bykhovets
#17 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 9:02:05 PM
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It's good to raise funds, BUT...

If KNH and NHIF are the recipients then chances are it is a useless venture. Buy equipment for KNH that will get stolen, break down or gather dust in a corner? Buy consumables that cost 30k and leave them under the watchful eye of a nurse who earns 16k? Give the funds to a KNH who will offer 3 out of 7 courses of chemo and use the rest of the money to fuel the director's car.

Why are we doing the government's job? KNH is a level 6 facility directly under the MoH. If it cannot take care of children in the cancer ward, it should be shut down like Uchumi?
"Occasionally I drop a tea cup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I am not satisfied when it does not gather itself up again. Someday perhaps that cup will come together."
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mawinder
#18 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 9:14:12 PM
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Bykhovets wrote:
It's good to raise funds, BUT...

If KNH and NHIF are the recipients then chances are it is a useless venture. Buy equipment for KNH that will get stolen, break down or gather dust in a corner? Buy consumables that cost 30k and leave them under the watchful eye of a nurse who earns 16k? Give the funds to a KNH who will offer 3 out of 7 courses of chemo and use the rest of the money to fuel the director's car.

Why are we doing the government's job? KNH is a level 6 facility directly under the MoH. If it cannot take care of children in the cancer ward, it should be shut down like Uchumi?

We already pay taxes for that but Health CS steals and misuses the taxes. He should be taken to NIC and a competent person to replace him.He is not qualified and is a total fool in medical matters.
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Shak
#19 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 9:58:57 PM
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It would make more sense for him to sponsor the treatment of sick kids from poor families in a private hospital like Aga Khan
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mawinder
#20 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2015 10:55:02 PM
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Shak wrote:
It would make more sense for him to sponsor the treatment of sick kids from poor families in a private hospital like Aga Khan

If he does that he does not get to eat but if he buys the equipment from the manufacturer direct he gets to tour the factory and is offered an envelope or a gift.
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