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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,798 Location: NAIROBI
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With the current appreciation trend of KCB share price;pension schemes including NSSF will make very handsome returns in their portfolio. KCB is the favourite stock and with the largest percentage in the quoted equity portfolio as per RBA June 2014 report Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,192 Location: nairobi
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A good Q1 will usher 70's "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,192 Location: nairobi
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Equity is witnessing quick huge demand.whatsup? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:Equity is witnessing quick huge demand.whatsup? It was on the cheap.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/6/2015 Posts: 23
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There is huge demand from local investors
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/2/2014 Posts: 123
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mlennyma wrote:Equity is witnessing quick huge demand.whatsup? and centum. 4 times the demand. ,
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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ike wrote:mlennyma wrote:Equity is witnessing quick huge demand.whatsup? and centum. 4 times the demand. Pump n dump even britam "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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The battle for local market that has seen Co-operative Bank edge out Equity Bank from second position has been replayed by middle-tier banks that have grabbed a larger share. Mid-tier lenders have snatched assets, customer deposits and market share over the past two years from large and small-tier counterparts, data from Central Bank of Kenya shows. The 16 banks classified in the middle category have seen their asset base grow to Sh1.37 trillion at the end of 2014 representing 42.7 per cent of the industry total of Sh3.19 trillion, with customer deposits at 41.6 per cent of the industry total of Sh2.29 trillion.  http://www.businessdaily...32/-/6mk3ub/-/index.html"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/17/2009 Posts: 201
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murchr wrote:The battle for local market that has seen Co-operative Bank edge out Equity Bank from second position has been replayed by middle-tier banks that have grabbed a larger share. Mid-tier lenders have snatched assets, customer deposits and market share over the past two years from large and small-tier counterparts, data from Central Bank of Kenya shows. The 16 banks classified in the middle category have seen their asset base grow to Sh1.37 trillion at the end of 2014 representing 42.7 per cent of the industry total of Sh3.19 trillion, with customer deposits at 41.6 per cent of the industry total of Sh2.29 trillion. http://www.businessdaily...2/-/6mk3ub/-/index.html Pedestrian Analysis
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 992 Location: Kenya
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gmg wrote:murchr wrote:The battle for local market that has seen Co-operative Bank edge out Equity Bank from second position has been replayed by middle-tier banks that have grabbed a larger share. Mid-tier lenders have snatched assets, customer deposits and market share over the past two years from large and small-tier counterparts, data from Central Bank of Kenya shows. The 16 banks classified in the middle category have seen their asset base grow to Sh1.37 trillion at the end of 2014 representing 42.7 per cent of the industry total of Sh3.19 trillion, with customer deposits at 41.6 per cent of the industry total of Sh2.29 trillion. http://www.businessdaily...2/-/6mk3ub/-/index.html Pedestrian Analysis Coop has a nmber of large enterprises in their books while Equity its mainly SMEs....From the stats I checked KCB growing deposits fastest then Equity then Coop.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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watesh wrote:gmg wrote:murchr wrote:The battle for local market that has seen Co-operative Bank edge out Equity Bank from second position has been replayed by middle-tier banks that have grabbed a larger share. Mid-tier lenders have snatched assets, customer deposits and market share over the past two years from large and small-tier counterparts, data from Central Bank of Kenya shows. The 16 banks classified in the middle category have seen their asset base grow to Sh1.37 trillion at the end of 2014 representing 42.7 per cent of the industry total of Sh3.19 trillion, with customer deposits at 41.6 per cent of the industry total of Sh2.29 trillion. http://www.businessdaily...2/-/6mk3ub/-/index.html Pedestrian Analysis Coop has a nmber of large enterprises in their books while Equity its mainly SMEs....From the stats I checked KCB growing deposits fastest then Equity then Coop. I'm not believing what am reading. Coop is bigger than Equity? My clan belongs to Equity, only go to Coop for loans. How many Wazuans bank with Coop?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Team KCB Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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mkeiy wrote:watesh wrote:gmg wrote:murchr wrote:The battle for local market that has seen Co-operative Bank edge out Equity Bank from second position has been replayed by middle-tier banks that have grabbed a larger share. Mid-tier lenders have snatched assets, customer deposits and market share over the past two years from large and small-tier counterparts, data from Central Bank of Kenya shows. The 16 banks classified in the middle category have seen their asset base grow to Sh1.37 trillion at the end of 2014 representing 42.7 per cent of the industry total of Sh3.19 trillion, with customer deposits at 41.6 per cent of the industry total of Sh2.29 trillion. http://www.businessdaily...2/-/6mk3ub/-/index.html Pedestrian Analysis Coop has a nmber of large enterprises in their books while Equity its mainly SMEs....From the stats I checked KCB growing deposits fastest then Equity then Coop. I'm not believing what am reading. Coop is bigger than Equity? My clan belongs to Equity, only go to Coop for loans. How many Wazuans bank with Coop? Me and Angelica. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,929
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Boris Boyka wrote:mkeiy wrote:watesh wrote:gmg wrote:murchr wrote:The battle for local market that has seen Co-operative Bank edge out Equity Bank from second position has been replayed by middle-tier banks that have grabbed a larger share. Mid-tier lenders have snatched assets, customer deposits and market share over the past two years from large and small-tier counterparts, data from Central Bank of Kenya shows. The 16 banks classified in the middle category have seen their asset base grow to Sh1.37 trillion at the end of 2014 representing 42.7 per cent of the industry total of Sh3.19 trillion, with customer deposits at 41.6 per cent of the industry total of Sh2.29 trillion. http://www.businessdaily...2/-/6mk3ub/-/index.html Pedestrian Analysis Coop has a nmber of large enterprises in their books while Equity its mainly SMEs....From the stats I checked KCB growing deposits fastest then Equity then Coop. I'm not believing what am reading. Coop is bigger than Equity? My clan belongs to Equity, only go to Coop for loans. How many Wazuans bank with Coop? Me and Angelica. We have been here before Equity became a bank.  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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I know many people with A coop account The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 257
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Most mainstream saccos hold their accounts in Coop You lose money chasing women, but you never lose women chasing money - NAS
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 992 Location: Kenya
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Here are some stats I did on KCB Q3 vs Equity Q3 for stats junkies like me
Pretax profit
KCB-19.4bn
Equity-18.1bn
PAT
KCB-13.577bn
Equity-12.81bn
BREAKDOWN:
Assets
KCB-607bn
Equity-446bn
Deposits
KCB-471bn(+121bn)
Equity-317bn(+73bn)
Net Loans and advances
KCB-348bn(+84bn)
Equity-263(+55bn)
Net Interest Income
KCB-28.35bn(+2.57bn)
Equity-16.81bn(+4bn)
Non funded income
KCB-17.334bn(+0.4bn)
Equity-16.81(+3.7bn)
Costs
KCB-26.297bn(+1.25bn)
Equity-24.18bn(+5.289bn)
Subsidiaries (KCB are estimates)
Kenya
KCB-17.07bn
Equity-15.9bn
Uganda
KCB-0.19bn
Equity-0.21bn
Tanzania
KCB-0.19bn
Equity-0.27bn
Rwanda
KCB-0.388bn
Equity-0.32bn
South Sudan
KCB-1.6bn
Equity-0.7bn
DRC Equity-0.44bn
Burundi KCB less than or approx 0.01bn
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Boris Boyka wrote:mkeiy wrote:watesh wrote:gmg wrote:murchr wrote:The battle for local market that has seen Co-operative Bank edge out Equity Bank from second position has been replayed by middle-tier banks that have grabbed a larger share. Mid-tier lenders have snatched assets, customer deposits and market share over the past two years from large and small-tier counterparts, data from Central Bank of Kenya shows. The 16 banks classified in the middle category have seen their asset base grow to Sh1.37 trillion at the end of 2014 representing 42.7 per cent of the industry total of Sh3.19 trillion, with customer deposits at 41.6 per cent of the industry total of Sh2.29 trillion. http://www.businessdaily...2/-/6mk3ub/-/index.html Pedestrian Analysis Coop has a nmber of large enterprises in their books while Equity its mainly SMEs....From the stats I checked KCB growing deposits fastest then Equity then Coop. Me too. Worked for them yester years and still bank and operate my account with them I'm not believing what am reading. Coop is bigger than Equity? My clan belongs to Equity, only go to Coop for loans. How many Wazuans bank with Coop? Me and Angelica.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,265 Location: Nairobi
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@watesh - Why did Equity's costs increase vs KCB? Equitel? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Ericsson wrote:With the current appreciation trend of KCB share price;pension schemes including NSSF will make very handsome returns in their portfolio.
KCB is the favourite stock and with the largest percentage in the quoted equity portfolio as per RBA June 2014 report Any fund manager with a large financial sector exposure in their portfolio is likely in the red this year.
For now I'm not willing to touch or recommend any banking stock until treasury and cbk start reading from the same page. The interest rate lawsuit is another key event. Is judiciary becoming banker intolerant like what happened in the 1930s to US banks? Social mood is currently cranking anti bank sentiments. Caution is this environment for some banks will be thrown under the bus. The next stage will likely be KES devaluation as anti bank sentiment swiftly moves to politics. Bond holders will hate this cycle as losses escalate especially if politicians force through lending rate control laws. Sell buy-back bond market activity will be nasty for those with bad exposure.
This environment is not similar to 2011 and the new cbk head will want to drive a point home to rogue bankers.
In summary banks are facing a tough cbk head, intolerant judiciary and anti bank civil mood. Very nasty cocktail. Keep this in mind while you analyze banking stocks.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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