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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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..mai mai mai everything is just reporting negative .
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2015 Posts: 138 Location: Harare
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Adopting the KK strategy of moving into high value products? Nothing else can explain that decline in the revenue by close to 30%. The flat gross profit (GP) truly proves that the petroleum retailing business in Kenya is not a volume business anymore but a high value/margin product driven business. The GP game is no longer a "pile them high and sell it cheap" game but a strategic selling game. Plus the cost of sales has been fixed by the government thanks to price controls and a government controlled bulk buying procurement process. The PBT game on the other hand is a pure finance and strategy play with sales and marketing being relegated to the back-bench. Profits will determined at the financing level - cost of credit, risk management (forex, hedges, pricing and volume forecasts) and operational efficiency (inventory management,lean structures, bulk storage facilities, IT platforms etc). Tough times ahead as the "sales game" is easier to play than the "finance game". Investment philosophy development in progress...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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How comes Kk is more profitable. I don't understand "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mlennyma wrote:How comes Kk is more profitable. I don't understand Ohana once asked. What's the point of having the highest market share, but making losses. Margins!!. Therein lies your answer. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Aguytrying wrote:mlennyma wrote:How comes Kk is more profitable. I don't understand Ohana once asked. What's the point of having the highest market share, but making losses. Margins!!. Therein lies your answer. Also, the mother company is not making money with the falling oil prices. Most of this costs may be "consultancy fees" paid out to France. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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I foretold this in 2013. In a margin business it is all about the margins
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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Hopefully the twat journo who is always writing bashful storos about KK's declining market share can rewrite his articles.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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As oil gets clobbered to pulp, oil stocks will struggle to stay afloat. I expect Total and ADSS to keep sliding, but KK may just stay afloat. So the oil sector hedge is KK for those targeting NSE oil stocks. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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dunkang wrote:Aguytrying wrote:mlennyma wrote:How comes Kk is more profitable. I don't understand Ohana once asked. What's the point of having the highest market share, but making losses. Margins!!. Therein lies your answer. Also, the mother company is not making money with the falling oil prices. Most of this costs may be "consultancy fees" paid out to France. Preference dividends Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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If KK and total perform at the same clip in H2, then KK's profits will be double total's. Tafakari hayo. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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Aguytrying wrote:If KK and total perform at the same clip in H2, then KK's profits will be double total's. Tafakari hayo. As interest rates rise, KK is reducing its borrowings. According to Management during the 1H briefing & interviews: - No open USD loan positions i.e. 'natural' hedges on USD loans. Huge benefit for KK as KES has cratered against USD since 30th June. - KES loans being reduced as soon as possible. - Inventories being tightly managed to reduce Working Capital requirements. - All acquisitions have to be funded in LCY by the 'local' subsidiary. The HO is not funding any subsidiaries. - Volumes are up for the retail network but a reduction in volumes in the low-margin sectors has hurt overall market share. Nevertheless, the reduction in overall market share has not impacted profits. Bidding for OTS cargoes at fair prices has reduced winning bids. - KK was 'short' fuel while prices were falling i.e. as prices fell KK did not have expensive stocks. - BP/Castrol deal will boost KK's market share in oils and lubricants. Like @Aguy, I am bullish on KK despite all the drama in the economy. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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Total changes MD again. Is this a good thing or not? http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/lgcx6l/-/index.html
Imperial Bank had the same MD for decades & after he died the scams unfolded. Kenol had Segman for a decade+ & then he became cocky and entered into crazy hedges/forwards that wiped out Revenue Reserves & almost sunk KK. Then he was 'retired' aka fired. KQ & Naikuni [11 years]. 'Retired' Olympia & Matu. Still hanging on. On the other hand, we have other firms that have had steady hands on deck for years. Equity & James Mwangi. Wairegi & Britam. Or will the skeletons come out of the closet when they leave? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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VituVingiSana wrote:Total changes MD again. Is this a good thing or not? http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/lgcx6l/-/index.html
Imperial Bank had the same MD for decades & after he died the scams unfolded. Kenol had Segman for a decade+ & then he became cocky and entered into crazy hedges/forwards that wiped out Revenue Reserves & almost sunk KK. Then he was 'retired' aka fired. KQ & Naikuni [11 years]. 'Retired' Olympia & Matu. Still hanging on. On the other hand, we have other firms that have had steady hands on deck for years. Equity & James Mwangi. Wairegi & Britam. Or will the skeletons come out of the closet when they leave? That Nigeria Madam seemed clueless compared to the good job the KK MD was doing. And why are African been replaced by Frenchies? The chairman Molapo gone, replaced by a Frenchman, then the CEO Eze gone replaced by a Frenchwoman. The Board and the management looks like Arsenal F.C at the dawn of the millennium. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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dunkang wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Total changes MD again. Is this a good thing or not? http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/lgcx6l/-/index.html
Imperial Bank had the same MD for decades & after he died the scams unfolded. Kenol had Segman for a decade+ & then he became cocky and entered into crazy hedges/forwards that wiped out Revenue Reserves & almost sunk KK. Then he was 'retired' aka fired. KQ & Naikuni [11 years]. 'Retired' Olympia & Matu. Still hanging on. On the other hand, we have other firms that have had steady hands on deck for years. Equity & James Mwangi. Wairegi & Britam. Or will the skeletons come out of the closet when they leave? That Nigeria Madam seemed clueless compared to the good job the KK MD was doing. And why are African been replaced by Frenchies? The chairman Molapo gone, replaced by a Frenchman, then the CEO Eze gone replaced by a Frenchwoman. The Board and the management looks like Arsenal F.C at the dawn of the millennium. Africans main concern or business is to eat and have self enrichment, the rest is bullshit! Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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Boris Boyka wrote:dunkang wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Total changes MD again. Is this a good thing or not? http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/lgcx6l/-/index.html
Imperial Bank had the same MD for decades & after he died the scams unfolded. Kenol had Segman for a decade+ & then he became cocky and entered into crazy hedges/forwards that wiped out Revenue Reserves & almost sunk KK. Then he was 'retired' aka fired. KQ & Naikuni [11 years]. 'Retired' Olympia & Matu. Still hanging on. On the other hand, we have other firms that have had steady hands on deck for years. Equity & James Mwangi. Wairegi & Britam. Or will the skeletons come out of the closet when they leave? That Nigeria Madam seemed clueless compared to the good job the KK MD was doing. And why are African been replaced by Frenchies? The chairman Molapo gone, replaced by a Frenchman, then the CEO Eze gone replaced by a Frenchwoman. The Board and the management looks like Arsenal F.C at the dawn of the millennium. Africans main concern or business is to eat and have self enrichment, the rest is bullshit! Did you read about the EABL guy who kula'd 240mn? Aristide Nkoumondo, a Cameroonian http://www.businessdaily...36/-/y8s7tx/-/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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VituVingiSana wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:dunkang wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Total changes MD again. Is this a good thing or not? http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/lgcx6l/-/index.html
Imperial Bank had the same MD for decades & after he died the scams unfolded. Kenol had Segman for a decade+ & then he became cocky and entered into crazy hedges/forwards that wiped out Revenue Reserves & almost sunk KK. Then he was 'retired' aka fired. KQ & Naikuni [11 years]. 'Retired' Olympia & Matu. Still hanging on. On the other hand, we have other firms that have had steady hands on deck for years. Equity & James Mwangi. Wairegi & Britam. Or will the skeletons come out of the closet when they leave? That Nigeria Madam seemed clueless compared to the good job the KK MD was doing. And why are African been replaced by Frenchies? The chairman Molapo gone, replaced by a Frenchman, then the CEO Eze gone replaced by a Frenchwoman. The Board and the management looks like Arsenal F.C at the dawn of the millennium. Africans main concern or business is to eat and have self enrichment, the rest is bullshit! Did you read about the EABL guy who kula'd 240mn? Aristide Nkoumondo, a Cameroonian http://www.businessdaily...6/-/y8s7tx/-/index.html Waafrika tumelaaniwa. No wonder Total (K) is kicking them out! Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/3/2014 Posts: 245
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dunkang wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:dunkang wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Total changes MD again. Is this a good thing or not? http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/lgcx6l/-/index.html
Imperial Bank had the same MD for decades & after he died the scams unfolded. Kenol had Segman for a decade+ & then he became cocky and entered into crazy hedges/forwards that wiped out Revenue Reserves & almost sunk KK. Then he was 'retired' aka fired. KQ & Naikuni [11 years]. 'Retired' Olympia & Matu. Still hanging on. On the other hand, we have other firms that have had steady hands on deck for years. Equity & James Mwangi. Wairegi & Britam. Or will the skeletons come out of the closet when they leave? That Nigeria Madam seemed clueless compared to the good job the KK MD was doing. And why are African been replaced by Frenchies? The chairman Molapo gone, replaced by a Frenchman, then the CEO Eze gone replaced by a Frenchwoman. The Board and the management looks like Arsenal F.C at the dawn of the millennium. Africans main concern or business is to eat and have self enrichment, the rest is bullshit! Did you read about the EABL guy who kula'd 240mn? Aristide Nkoumondo, a Cameroonian http://www.businessdaily...6/-/y8s7tx/-/index.html Waafrika tumelaaniwa. No wonder Total (K) is kicking them out! kindly bee keen to review all the facts of the eabl case before maligning anyone. In the world of securities, courage and patience become the supreme virtues after adequate knowledge and a tested judgment are at hand.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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TheGeek wrote:dunkang wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:dunkang wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Total changes MD again. Is this a good thing or not? http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/lgcx6l/-/index.html
Imperial Bank had the same MD for decades & after he died the scams unfolded. Kenol had Segman for a decade+ & then he became cocky and entered into crazy hedges/forwards that wiped out Revenue Reserves & almost sunk KK. Then he was 'retired' aka fired. KQ & Naikuni [11 years]. 'Retired' Olympia & Matu. Still hanging on. On the other hand, we have other firms that have had steady hands on deck for years. Equity & James Mwangi. Wairegi & Britam. Or will the skeletons come out of the closet when they leave? That Nigeria Madam seemed clueless compared to the good job the KK MD was doing. And why are African been replaced by Frenchies? The chairman Molapo gone, replaced by a Frenchman, then the CEO Eze gone replaced by a Frenchwoman. The Board and the management looks like Arsenal F.C at the dawn of the millennium. Africans main concern or business is to eat and have self enrichment, the rest is bullshit! Did you read about the EABL guy who kula'd 240mn? Aristide Nkoumondo, a Cameroonian http://www.businessdaily...6/-/y8s7tx/-/index.html Waafrika tumelaaniwa. No wonder Total (K) is kicking them out! kindly bee keen to review all the facts of the eabl case before maligning anyone. So what are all the facts? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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