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tycho wrote:My exertions today have interestingly led me to Genesis chapter 3, and there in have I found a powerful discovery about my relationship and understanding of the woman, nay, myself.
The chain of events in the garden, and the psychology going with it starts with;
1. Naming and companionship - God visits but isn't enough company. Why?
2. Ordering - the eating of the fruit - resulting in the knowledge of good and evil.
3. Emergent punishment and the realization of a new psychology in both the man and woman. A degenerate psychology where the man and woman objectify each other and relate on non mutual terms.
4. Escalation of a degenerative psychology outside of the garden.
Going along the books a pattern emerges: Humanity trying to find God and salvation via a degenerate psychology, that by the time one gets to revelation even the Gospel of Christ hasn't sunk into the human mind and totally transformed it.
Even now, few understand the psychological change implied by Christ. Hence the clamor for the second coming.
Hence my desire and conflict within myself and with the woman. ... 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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Psalm 118:8 - It is better to take refuge in Yahweh, than to put confidence in man.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2013 Posts: 640
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The one of the many things I love and admire about Islam and Muslims is that they love dead Jews. Akina Jacob, Moses, Joshua, David, Solomon, And even call them prophets, but hate the live ones. Its all good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Wainadi wrote:The one of the many things I love and admire about Islam and Muslims is that they love dead Jews. Akina Jacob, Moses, Joshua, David, Solomon, And even call them prophets, but hate the live ones. The only messenger from the Almighty who is alive today is Jesus Christ the Messiah (pbuh) who is the best from the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).... His return in the glory of the Almighty is highly anticipated by the Muslims....  Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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guru267 wrote:Wainadi wrote: <Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:51:11 PM>The one of the many things I love and admire about Islam and Muslims is that they love dead Jews. Akina Jacob, Moses, Joshua, David, Solomon, And even call them prophets, but hate the live ones. < Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 3:36:23 PM> The only messenger from the Almighty who is alive today is Jesus Christ the Messiah (pbuh) who is the best from the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).... His return in the glory of the Almighty is highly anticipated by the Muslims.... Good one @guru  Muslims believe in ALL the PROPHETS of GOD and their TEACHINGS/message: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Ishmael, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Aron, Moses, David, Solomon, Job, Ezekiel, Jonah, Elias, Elisha, Zakarias, John, Jesus and Muhammad peace be upon them all. But Muslims DO NOT worship the PROPHETS.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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AlphDoti wrote:guru267 wrote:Wainadi wrote: <Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:51:11 PM>The one of the many things I love and admire about Islam and Muslims is that they love dead Jews. Akina Jacob, Moses, Joshua, David, Solomon, And even call them prophets, but hate the live ones. < Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 3:36:23 PM> The only messenger from the Almighty who is alive today is Jesus Christ the Messiah (pbuh) who is the best from the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).... His return in the glory of the Almighty is highly anticipated by the Muslims.... Good one @guru Muslims believe in ALL the PROPHETS of GOD and their TEACHINGS/message: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Ishmael, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Aron, Moses, David, Solomon, Job, Ezekiel, Jonah, Elias, Elisha, Zakarias, John, Jesus and Muhammad peace be upon them all. But Muslims DO NOT worship the PROPHETS. But Mohamed (pbuh) is also a prophet, so you dont worship him? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Impunity wrote:AlphDoti wrote:guru267 wrote:Wainadi wrote: <Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:51:11 PM>The one of the many things I love and admire about Islam and Muslims is that they love dead Jews. Akina Jacob, Moses, Joshua, David, Solomon, And even call them prophets, but hate the live ones. < Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 3:36:23 PM> The only messenger from the Almighty who is alive today is Jesus Christ the Messiah (pbuh) who is the best from the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).... His return in the glory of the Almighty is highly anticipated by the Muslims.... Good one @guru Muslims believe in ALL the PROPHETS of GOD and their TEACHINGS/message: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Ishmael, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Aron, Moses, David, Solomon, Job, Ezekiel, Jonah, Elias, Elisha, Zakarias, John, Jesus and Muhammad peace be upon them all. But Muslims DO NOT worship the PROPHETS. But Mohamed (pbuh) is also a prophet, so you dont worship him? He is also a prophet and we don't worship him. We worship Allah (Almighty God). See below: Quran 41:6 says: 'Say thou, [O Prophet:] "I am but a mortal like you. It has been revealed to me that your God is the One God: go, then, straight towards Him and seek His forgiveness!" And woe unto those who ascribe divinity to aught beside Him'Hadith narrated by Umar: I heard the Prophet saying, " Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a servant. So, call me the servant of Allah and His Apostle." (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith Number 654 Vol 4, Book 55, ) Quran 38:65 says: 'SAY (Oh Muhammad) "I am only a warner; and there is no deity whatever save God, the One, who holds absolute sway over all that exists"'
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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guru267 wrote:Wainadi wrote: <Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:51:11 PM>The one of the many things I love and admire about Islam and Muslims is that they love dead Jews. Akina Jacob, Moses, Joshua, David, Solomon, And even call them prophets, but hate the live ones. < Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 3:36:23 PM> The only messenger from the Almighty who is alive today is Jesus Christ the Messiah (pbuh) who is the best from the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).... His return in the glory of the Almighty is highly anticipated by the Muslims.... The highly anticipated return and the fate that awaits the Jews. Bukhari B.52,N.177 - Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour {of the Last Judgment} will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him. AlphDoti wrote:Good one @guru Muslims believe in ALL the PROPHETS of GOD and their TEACHINGS/message: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Ishmael, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Aron, Moses, David, Solomon, Job, Ezekiel, Jonah, Elias, Elisha, Zakarias, John, Jesus and Muhammad peace be upon them all. But Muslims DO NOT worship the PROPHETS. John 20:31 - But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. 1 John 4:15 - Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. AlphDoti wrote:He is also a prophet and we don't worship him. We worship Allah (Almighty God). Muslims worship Allah not Yahweh.The only teachings Muslims believe in are those based on the words and deeds of Muhammad.To say otherwise, you would be committing shirk,the unforgivable and gravest sin in Islam.
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