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Why is Africa poor in general compared to the West?
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#181 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:01:16 AM
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Simply put.....its historical. when Vanderbilt, Rocka Fella and the rest were busy building their nations in 1800s.... our grandfathers were busy mating and marrying many wives while hunting wild animals.
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#182 Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:07:14 PM
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murchr wrote:

hehehe
I always thought that being in the tropics is an advantage that we have not capitalised on, the video says it's a disadvantage, and we have poor soils!

16 degrees?Laughing out loudly
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#183 Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 7:40:57 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:

hehehe
I always thought that being in the tropics is an advantage that we have not capitalised on, the video says it's a disadvantage, and we have poor soils!

16 degrees?Laughing out loudly


Very true, I thought so too! European and North American weather is actually very harsh, imagine 6 months of winter, darkness throughout the day during winter, snow meaning harsh driving conditions, yearly flu season, high electricity bills in order to keep the house warm... I could go on and on. This video is trying to make Africans feel like victims, once you are made into a victim you have no incentive to pull yourself up by the bootstraps, coz afterall, you are likely to get dengue fever and be bit by tse tse flies!! A bunch of crap, how many Africans do you personally know who have suffered from these diseases?
murchr
#184 Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:31:47 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:

hehehe
I always thought that being in the tropics is an advantage that we have not capitalised on, the video says it's a disadvantage, and we have poor soils!

16 degrees?Laughing out loudly


Very true, I thought so too! European and North American weather is actually very harsh, imagine 6 months of winter, darkness throughout the day during winter, snow meaning harsh driving conditions, yearly flu season, high electricity bills in order to keep the house warm... I could go on and on. This video is trying to make Africans feel like victims, once you are made into a victim you have no incentive to pull yourself up by the bootstraps, coz afterall, you are likely to get dengue fever and be bit by tse tse flies!! A bunch of crap, how many Africans do you personally know who have suffered from these diseases?


What they are saying is that the harsh weather made them become innovative otherwise they would die of hunger or cold. Mwafrika as long as you can uproot an arrow root or cassava, you need not know how to preserve food for a "rainy day".
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Nabwire
#185 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:39:09 AM
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Murchr you can do better than that! Yes they briefly said what you are saying but overwhelmingly focused on the geography, harsh weather of Africa and diseases as the factors contributing to Africa's poverty. We all know the real reason Africa is "poor" is clueless corrupt leaders and economic hitmen. They talk about wealth being ferried out of Africa but dont mention that that wealth ends up in "rich" countries thus making them richer.
Seles83
#186 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2015 9:49:20 AM
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Dont stress your minds, the answer is simple? Its not the guns, intellect, weather, culture .etc

A research in this subject on why Nations or Civilisations are successful over others, 1000 page arrived at a simple answer- RISK TAKING?

Any person, culture, tribe, country who continuously takes risk tend to be successful.

In Kenya, we are now on right person. Entrepreneurship is at heart of Africans. Look at Thika Freeway, Mombasa to Kampala Railway, Look at whats happening in Machakos County!!

The only thing disappointing is quality of media content, Politics should be reduced to less than 20% of news cycles, Get the country talking about Innovation and New Business...

I am based in overseas and despite all the noise Africa is making big progress, the only question what's your share??


Its nice to be back, you will be hearing a lot from me..

P.S.. If anyone interested in research material, i can share the link...




More monies, more problems...
enyands
#187 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2015 7:55:44 PM
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Seles83 wrote:
Dont stress your minds, the answer is simple? Its not the guns, intellect, weather, culture .etc

A research in this subject on why Nations or Civilisations are successful over others, 1000 page arrived at a simple answer- RISK TAKING?

Any person, culture, tribe, country who continuously takes risk tend to be successful.

In Kenya, we are now on right person. Entrepreneurship is at heart of Africans. Look at Thika Freeway, Mombasa to Kampala Railway, Look at whats happening in Machakos County!!

The only thing disappointing is quality of media content, Politics should be reduced to less than 20% of new cycles, Get the country talking about Innovation and New Business...

I am based in overseas, despite all the noise Africa is making big progress, the only question whats your share??


Its nice to be back, you will be hearing a lot from me..

P.S.. If anyone interested in research material, i can share the link...







nice to be back home.welcome. friends of mine who came back from overseas have hih expectations of things but only to be disappointed that you don't get enough support and vision from the community. Africa is better as a continent to where it was decades ago .but there is a lot of rooms for improvement, we should have long sighted vision and not just our nose.Big up to machakos county. that leader is different. I think its because he was exposed to a culture somewhere in Washington during his PHD studies.
Aguytrying
#188 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2015 8:03:18 PM
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Please share. Knowledge is power
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Nabwire
#189 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2015 8:16:35 PM
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Plus if I may add, having lived on those 3 continents, the problem with Africans is they generally dont think long term, just about everyone wants to earn a quick buck and doesnt mind screwing over their customer not realizing that bad publicity from customers travels quite fast and can bring down your business. Europeans and especially Americans value their customers and will go the extra level to keep their business, while Africans act like they are doing their customers a favor by selling to them! Ofcourse this is on a micro level, on the macro level if you permanently fix the problem of under qualified politicians ( thus fixing the problem of broken institutions) and economic hitmen who loot from Africa, most of the other problems will be solved.
Lolest!
#190 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2015 8:47:52 PM
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murchr wrote:

What they are saying is that the harsh weather made them become innovative otherwise they would die of hunger or cold. Mwafrika as long as you can uproot an arrow root or cassava, you need not know how to preserve food for a "rainy day".

They have not said that. You made me rewatch the video to see if i missed something. They're saying the opposite. That we are disadvantaged in every way because of being in the tropics. Even our food has low carbohydrate levels and phototropism is hampered by the weather here

What you have opined is a different theory that posits that we have the advantage of nature but have not taken advantage; or that this very advantage has made us lazy and lacking in foresight.

This is a position that I too have believed in though I wonder what we should think of Native Americans and Aborigines. Without the Caucasian invasion, I doubt they could have been any different from us though they face the extremes of nature in their homelands.

Exposure to western civilisation early enough is a big factor. Remember our grandparents were engaging in raids on other communities and marrying many wives while in the west they were discovering flight, penicilin, laws of gravity, fine tuning democracy etc

We are having to play catch up on so many fronts
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