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Rank: Member Joined: 6/15/2013 Posts: 301
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mlennyma wrote:80% of my stock is kk,bought at 8-8.50,iam in the biggest dilemma in my nse life.9bob is showing resistance is it time to reduce or Kk was vaccinated against the Ebola in the nse?remember that kenya pipeline case which is half won my reasoning is that a stock that has not lost much may lack behind when others regain their earlier value Same dilemma for me. KK and Kenya Re are holding up well. Likely when the bull returns these two may do well though history doesn't support this notion. But when the bear is in town proper I don't think even these two will be spared. I have just realised I am in love with these stocks because I don't want to let go of them whilst I can but for a tiny profit.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2015 Posts: 817
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mulla wrote:mlennyma wrote:80% of my stock is kk,bought at 8-8.50,iam in the biggest dilemma in my nse life.9bob is showing resistance is it time to reduce or Kk was vaccinated against the Ebola in the nse?remember that kenya pipeline case which is half won my reasoning is that a stock that has not lost much may lack behind when others regain their earlier value Same dilemma for me. KK and Kenya Re are holding up well. Likely when the bull returns these two may do well though history doesn't support this notion. But when the bear is in town proper I don't think even these two will be spared. I have just realised I am in love with these stocks because I don't want to let go of them whilst I can but for a tiny profit. +1. strong stocks hold their value through bear season
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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@mlennyma and little dove. 80-90% in one share is too risky. Two options either buy other shares to reduce kk's percentage holding or sell some kk now to buy other shares. Do not sell all your kk shares now in hope of getting them cheaper down the road, that's speculative and could backfire or not who knows. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Things are tight with Scan group having lost a quarter of it's value in a month: Counter 15th Sep 15th Oct % Change 1 WPP ScanGroup 32.25 24.15 -25% 2 ARM Cement 48.25 37.00 -23% 3 Longhorn Publishers 7.40 5.80 -22% 4 Standard Chartered Bank 244.00 195.00 -20% 5 Britam 17.40 14.60 -16% 6 East African Breweries 298.00 250.50 -16% 7 Sameer Africa 4.30 3.70 -14% 8 Liberty Kenya Holdings 22.00 19.25 -13% 9 Equity Group Holdings 47.50 41.60 -12% 10 E.A.Cables 11.95 10.53 -12% African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,549 Location: nairobi
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:mulla wrote:mlennyma wrote:80% of my stock is kk,bought at 8-8.50,iam in the biggest dilemma in my nse life.9bob is showing resistance is it time to reduce or Kk was vaccinated against the Ebola in the nse?remember that kenya pipeline case which is half won my reasoning is that a stock that has not lost much may lack behind when others regain their earlier value Same dilemma for me. KK and Kenya Re are holding up well. Likely when the bull returns these two may do well though history doesn't support this notion. But when the bear is in town proper I don't think even these two will be spared. I have just realised I am in love with these stocks because I don't want to let go of them whilst I can but for a tiny profit. +1. strong stocks hold their value through bear season the last statement there is a fallacy, otherwise KCB wld be trading at 66 right now
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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kayhara wrote:Impunity wrote:kayhara wrote:True this, I am all red Zote EAAGADS, KENGEN, KQ, CARBACID, KAKUZI, SERENA and KPLC any ope on any of these counters? EAAGARDS inauaza nini?, asking for a friend. Anyway next bull run will be in mid 2017... EAAGADS sell coffee, and have some prime lands, made me good money over the years, bought 100k at 30 bob naona saa hii iko 26, What do they do with the prime lands? For speculation or what? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Emerger wrote:Impunity wrote:aljazeera wrote:Othelo wrote:Impunity wrote:Most of my Dollar-Millionaire friends made their fortune during 2008 financial crisis, then I was not liquid enough and was not very savvy with the goings of the NSE...with the coming economic lull, I shall not miss this latest chance! If the index could hit below 3000 by end of 2016, blue cheap firms will be dirt cheap...You only need to redeem your gaaament bills in time and delve in to the market fully... come 2007 Dec  thank me millionaire! DOLLAR MILLIONAIRE, sio KES/ZIM millionaire. Obviously it does you NO good for the stock of a great company to go on sale if you're already fully invested and have no cash to buy new shares. For this I would love to hear @Obiero say something. Bear markets are a plague, and if you're going to be a long term investor, you will need and want a portfolio comprised of companies with the strongest, most resilient constitutions, companies that will recover from the plague to thrive another day to be that DOLLAR Millionaire up there.  What are these companies with tough phundamendoz? Safcom? KCB?, EABL? JUBILEE? So as it stands, from the wazua 'foretellers' aka chartists et al what is the likelihood of KCB, SCOM & CENTUM turning green? KCB and Safcom have solid phundamendoz, they will surely rise again. Centum is too political and pyramidish! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Impunity wrote:Emerger wrote:Impunity wrote:aljazeera wrote:Othelo wrote:Impunity wrote:Most of my Dollar-Millionaire friends made their fortune during 2008 financial crisis, then I was not liquid enough and was not very savvy with the goings of the NSE...with the coming economic lull, I shall not miss this latest chance! If the index could hit below 3000 by end of 2016, blue cheap firms will be dirt cheap...You only need to redeem your gaaament bills in time and delve in to the market fully... come 2007 Dec thank me millionaire! DOLLAR MILLIONAIRE, sio KES/ZIM millionaire. Obviously it does you NO good for the stock of a great company to go on sale if you're already fully invested and have no cash to buy new shares. For this I would love to hear @Obiero say something. Bear markets are a plague, and if you're going to be a long term investor, you will need and want a portfolio comprised of companies with the strongest, most resilient constitutions, companies that will recover from the plague to thrive another day to be that DOLLAR Millionaire up there. What are these companies with tough phundamendoz? Safcom? KCB?, EABL? JUBILEE? So as it stands, from the wazua 'foretellers' aka chartists et al what is the likelihood of KCB, SCOM & CENTUM turning green? KCB and Safcom have solid phundamendoz, they will surely rise again. Centum is too political and pyramidish! CENTUM indeed is among the individual centred firms; DJ CK. He goes under you all go,he changes mind you all get affected. God forbid he cultivates cassava. He goes with his all ambitions. Its more hyped than it grows itself. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Boris Boyka wrote:Impunity wrote:Emerger wrote:Impunity wrote:aljazeera wrote:Othelo wrote:Impunity wrote:Most of my Dollar-Millionaire friends made their fortune during 2008 financial crisis, then I was not liquid enough and was not very savvy with the goings of the NSE...with the coming economic lull, I shall not miss this latest chance! If the index could hit below 3000 by end of 2016, blue cheap firms will be dirt cheap...You only need to redeem your gaaament bills in time and delve in to the market fully... come 2007 Dec thank me millionaire! DOLLAR MILLIONAIRE, sio KES/ZIM millionaire. Obviously it does you NO good for the stock of a great company to go on sale if you're already fully invested and have no cash to buy new shares. For this I would love to hear @Obiero say something. Bear markets are a plague, and if you're going to be a long term investor, you will need and want a portfolio comprised of companies with the strongest, most resilient constitutions, companies that will recover from the plague to thrive another day to be that DOLLAR Millionaire up there. What are these companies with tough phundamendoz? Safcom? KCB?, EABL? JUBILEE? So as it stands, from the wazua 'foretellers' aka chartists et al what is the likelihood of KCB, SCOM & CENTUM turning green? KCB and Safcom have solid phundamendoz, they will surely rise again. Centum is too political and pyramidish! CENTUM indeed is among the individual centred firms; DJ CK. He goes under you all go,he changes mind you all get affected. God forbid he cultivates cassava. He goes with his all ambitions. Its more hyped than it grows itself. He is the Warren Buffett of kenya stock. I'm sure he is proud of that title
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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There is a time in the past when you could hardly find any share at NSE going for anything less than 20 bob.
Now I cant imagine how many are below 3 bob. I think this what they call a buyers market
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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obiero wrote:personally, I am down by KES 239,550.. Being drops of 37% on KQ, 23% on COOP, 26% on HFCK, 41% on KEGN After reading the market trend & trusting my instinct, I liquidated Coop,Cables, KK,Memba and Kplc. Reduced on Cic, Bamburi. Am +10% Bamburi, +7% Kenya Re and flat on CIC.hold a few shares of these three. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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littledove wrote:mlennyma wrote:80% of my stock is kk,bought at 8-8.50,iam in the biggest dilemma in my nse life.9bob is showing resistance is it time to reduce or Kk was vaccinated against the Ebola in the nse?remember that kenya pipeline case which is half won my reasoning is that a stock that has not lost much may lack behind when others regain their earlier value we are in the same boat 90% of my holding currently is kk, I exited others early this year, I also exited almost half of kk to average down in case of a drop below 8 but it has refused to go down Sell sell sell Some kk so that supply floods I get some! As A guy put it....if the value (money) is substantive then spread it, if its not that much then relax. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 977 Location: Kenya
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Boris Boyka wrote:Impunity wrote:Emerger wrote:Impunity wrote:aljazeera wrote:Othelo wrote:Impunity wrote:Most of my Dollar-Millionaire friends made their fortune during 2008 financial crisis, then I was not liquid enough and was not very savvy with the goings of the NSE...with the coming economic lull, I shall not miss this latest chance! If the index could hit below 3000 by end of 2016, blue cheap firms will be dirt cheap...You only need to redeem your gaaament bills in time and delve in to the market fully... come 2007 Dec thank me millionaire! DOLLAR MILLIONAIRE, sio KES/ZIM millionaire. Obviously it does you NO good for the stock of a great company to go on sale if you're already fully invested and have no cash to buy new shares. For this I would love to hear @Obiero say something. Bear markets are a plague, and if you're going to be a long term investor, you will need and want a portfolio comprised of companies with the strongest, most resilient constitutions, companies that will recover from the plague to thrive another day to be that DOLLAR Millionaire up there. What are these companies with tough phundamendoz? Safcom? KCB?, EABL? JUBILEE? So as it stands, from the wazua 'foretellers' aka chartists et al what is the likelihood of KCB, SCOM & CENTUM turning green? KCB and Safcom have solid phundamendoz, they will surely rise again. Centum is too political and pyramidish! CENTUM indeed is among the individual centred firms; DJ CK. He goes under you all go,he changes mind you all get affected. God forbid he cultivates cassava. He goes with his all ambitions. Its more hyped than it grows itself. Buy Centum when the DJ and CEO go on a media hype spree, especially when Two Rivers opens officially...I remember the last media run, I doubled my cash sold at 84
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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mlennyma wrote:80% of my stock is kk,bought at 8-8.50,iam in the biggest dilemma in my nse life.9bob is showing resistance is it time to reduce or Kk was vaccinated against the Ebola in the nse?remember that kenya pipeline case which is half won my reasoning is that a stock that has not lost much may lack behind when others regain their earlier value KK is the only stock I'm holding and it's my bear wildcard. Got in at same price range as you.If it tanks I'm ready to buy more else I can ride with what I have.For the stocks I exited like Britam, NIC,Panafric,NBK I've no regrets since they're far off from previous highs.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Impunity wrote:Emerger wrote:Impunity wrote:aljazeera wrote:Othelo wrote:Impunity wrote:Most of my Dollar-Millionaire friends made their fortune during 2008 financial crisis, then I was not liquid enough and was not very savvy with the goings of the NSE...with the coming economic lull, I shall not miss this latest chance! If the index could hit below 3000 by end of 2016, blue cheap firms will be dirt cheap...You only need to redeem your gaaament bills in time and delve in to the market fully... come 2007 Dec thank me millionaire! DOLLAR MILLIONAIRE, sio KES/ZIM millionaire. Obviously it does you NO good for the stock of a great company to go on sale if you're already fully invested and have no cash to buy new shares. For this I would love to hear @Obiero say something. Bear markets are a plague, and if you're going to be a long term investor, you will need and want a portfolio comprised of companies with the strongest, most resilient constitutions, companies that will recover from the plague to thrive another day to be that DOLLAR Millionaire up there. What are these companies with tough phundamendoz? Safcom? KCB?, EABL? JUBILEE? So as it stands, from the wazua 'foretellers' aka chartists et al what is the likelihood of KCB, SCOM & CENTUM turning green? KCB and Safcom have solid phundamendoz, they will surely rise again. Centum is too political and pyramidish! @impunity  must I come here to fish you out about your car? he he. anyway did you fix it
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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littledove wrote:mlennyma wrote:80% of my stock is kk,bought at 8-8.50,iam in the biggest dilemma in my nse life.9bob is showing resistance is it time to reduce or Kk was vaccinated against the Ebola in the nse?remember that kenya pipeline case which is half won my reasoning is that a stock that has not lost much may lack behind when others regain their earlier value we are in the same boat 90% of my holding currently is kk, I exited others early this year, I also exited almost half of kk to average down in case of a drop below 8 but it has refused to go down KK -I am in it too since the days of Segman. Then added more as prices dropped. I am not worried since the 1H 2015 results were quite good and the commentary indicated that KK was cutting debt even further. Better margins, lower debt, increased volumes... Good stuff. KenRe - The recent jump in interest rates should benefit KenRe which is a cash-rich firm. As the regional insurance industry grows, so will KenRe. Warren Buffett likes reinsurance. VVS likes reinsurance. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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enyands wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:Impunity wrote:Emerger wrote:Impunity wrote:aljazeera wrote:Othelo wrote:Impunity wrote:Most of my Dollar-Millionaire friends made their fortune during 2008 financial crisis, then I was not liquid enough and was not very savvy with the goings of the NSE...with the coming economic lull, I shall not miss this latest chance! If the index could hit below 3000 by end of 2016, blue cheap firms will be dirt cheap...You only need to redeem your gaaament bills in time and delve in to the market fully... come 2007 Dec thank me millionaire! DOLLAR MILLIONAIRE, sio KES/ZIM millionaire. Obviously it does you NO good for the stock of a great company to go on sale if you're already fully invested and have no cash to buy new shares. For this I would love to hear @Obiero say something. Bear markets are a plague, and if you're going to be a long term investor, you will need and want a portfolio comprised of companies with the strongest, most resilient constitutions, companies that will recover from the plague to thrive another day to be that DOLLAR Millionaire up there. What are these companies with tough phundamendoz? Safcom? KCB?, EABL? JUBILEE? So as it stands, from the wazua 'foretellers' aka chartists et al what is the likelihood of KCB, SCOM & CENTUM turning green? KCB and Safcom have solid phundamendoz, they will surely rise again. Centum is too political and pyramidish! CENTUM indeed is among the individual centred firms; DJ CK. He goes under you all go,he changes mind you all get affected. God forbid he cultivates cassava. He goes with his all ambitions. Its more hyped than it grows itself. He is the Warren Buffett of kenya stock. I'm sure he is proud of that title That's a stretch. Next you will call Merali a tycoon. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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streetwise wrote:There is a time in the past when you could hardly find any share at NSE going for anything less than 20 bob.
Now I cant imagine how many are below 3 bob. I think this what they call a buyers market Safaricom, KK, Mumias, Olympia, Barclays, Kenya Re, ADSS, FTGH, KPLC, KenGen, etc haven't been above 20 for a long time. Be careful for those which have cratered may have a reason for doing so. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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