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Kenya Economy Watch
hisah
#961 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:59:17 PM
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VAT on oil products triggers in Sept 2016

This is what happens when you sell your soul to the banksters! IMF will shackle the econ until they're kicked out again.

Those IMF conditions are never meant to improve the economy.

Oil inflation on top on an econ recession in addition to elections in sight will be one deadly cocktail?!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
maka
#962 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2015 11:23:01 AM
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hisah wrote:
VAT on oil products triggers in Sept 2016

This is what happens when you sell your soul to the banksters! IMF will shackle the econ until they're kicked out again.

Those IMF conditions are never meant to improve the economy.

Oil inflation on top on an econ recession in addition to elections in sight will be one deadly cocktail?!


This is madness...
possunt quia posse videntur
whiteowl
#963 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2015 5:36:49 PM
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hisah wrote:
VAT on oil products triggers in Sept 2016

This is what happens when you sell your soul to the banksters! IMF will shackle the econ until they're kicked out again.

Those IMF conditions are never meant to improve the economy.

Oil inflation on top on an econ recession in addition to elections in sight will be one deadly cocktail?!


IMF riots coming up in 2017!
muandiwambeu
#964 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2015 7:37:09 PM
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Molotov cocktail it shall be. The stage is getting set with mpc well trained eyes shorting the market with bps hike, TSC roughing teachers with no increments and no salaries: a political stage inadvently being set, weather man calling shots with el nino or elu_niko na yangu or as u may wish, cbk/treasury growing apetite for chums n further realigning wanjiru's shallow sukumawiki pockets or, imfs fuel vat proposal shall break the messager's back, and politics will do the rosaries hata hi_cc wanataka shareholders yao isiguswe. Hapa tunaitaji mzee masapile na hicho kikombe chake cha kunyua tu maji. It will come in hardy that time.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Lolest!
#965 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2015 11:13:03 AM
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Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
mazingira
#966 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2015 11:46:07 AM
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whiteowl wrote:
hisah wrote:
VAT on oil products triggers in Sept 2016

This is what happens when you sell your soul to the banksters! IMF will shackle the econ until they're kicked out again.

Those IMF conditions are never meant to improve the economy.

Oil inflation on top on an econ recession in addition to elections in sight will be one deadly cocktail?!


IMF riots coming up in 2017!



The average JOE in Kenya cannot reclaim his vat , so this means if old JOE whose income is say 20 K a month at the time this is implemented looses another 5 bob on fare hikes twice a day on his commute in and out of work , then he spends and extra 30 bob a day at the dukas but has bought nothing more than he did before and his power bill has also risen 500 shillings because of the VAT charged on the fuel levy . In reality JOE is 1800 shillings worse off than he is today.

Multiplier effect throughout the country's workforce and further job losses as the transport sector and production sector become more expensive. Kenyas competitive advantage will be nil compared to other markets

16 % VAT on fuel would be a CATASTROPHIE
kayhara
#967 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2015 12:00:40 PM
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This govnt and bad decisions, first the CGT, see the markets, now VAT on oil?
To Each His Own
Impunity
#968 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2015 12:01:43 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Henry Rotich says between July and September;sh 148.7bn of revenue collected was used to pay domestic and foreign debt.
He couldn't use tbiils and tbonds since interest rates are high.
If in first 3 months of financial year ksh.148.7bn of debt has been repaid;it means by end of financial year we would have repaid debt worth nearly ksh.600bn.
Source of repayment revenue collected by government agencies primarily KRA.
This shit is not ending anytime soon.
The tbills and bonds being currently issued are to sustain government operations since most of the money collected by KRA is being used to repay debt.


Any dangers that the gaament could default in meeting the end of the bargains once the Domestic Tbill and Bonds mature next year?
Has it ever happened in the +254 republic?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Ericsson
#969 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2015 12:03:25 PM
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Can't default as part of the IMF agreement;afadhali mshahara ya wafanyi kazi wa serikali ichelewe
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Impunity
#970 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2015 5:47:32 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Can't default as part of the IMF agreement;afadhali mshahara ya wafanyi kazi wa serikali ichelewe


okay.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Ericsson
#971 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2015 4:42:24 PM
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Stanchart increases interest rate on loans in Kenya shillings to 27% effective 19 November 2015.
The payment amount will remain the same but tenure will be increased by 22 months
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#972 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2015 4:47:51 PM
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Monthly repayment will remain the same but tenure will be increased by 22 months
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
enyands
#973 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2015 5:05:32 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Monthly repayment will remain the same but tenure will be increased by 22 months


I was done paying my loan then you tell me on the last month that I have two more years to pay for free. This is outright theft sir.
Ericsson
#974 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2015 5:13:29 PM
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Ask jubilee government.
We are in this mess coz of high tbill and bond rates
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Muthawamunene
#975 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:24:39 PM
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How to make a country rich.

We have little of this.

We can have all the Standard Gauge railways and overpasses we want but until the average skill level rises, we ain't doing shit.

These doodads we're proud of (the railway, roads etc) are the macroscopic equivalent of owning a sports car and expensive electronics while living in a grass thatch with a pit latrine.

Real progress will come when people are paid to sit in laboratories. We have bright chaps stuck in miserable day jobs that have nothing to do with the Bachelors of Science or MSC's they pursued in school. Why? Because they have to buy unga at the end of the day.

#dropsTheMic.
murchr
#976 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:26:36 PM
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Muthawamunene wrote:
How to make a country rich.

We have little of this.

We can have all the Standard Gauge railways and overpasses we want but until the average skill level rises, we ain't doing shit.

These doodads we're proud of (the railway, roads etc) are the macroscopic equivalent of owning a sports car and expensive electronics while living in a grass thatch with a pit latrine.

Real progress will come when people are paid to sit in laboratories. We have bright chaps stuck in miserable day jobs that have nothing to do with the Bachelors of Science or MSC's they pursued in school. Why? Because they have to buy unga at the end of the day.

#dropsTheMic.



I like the sarcasm in the video.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kasibitta
#977 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:15:25 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ask jubilee government.
We are in this mess coz of high tbill and bond rates


Dont blame the TBill and bond rates.The rates are a consequence of poor decisions made earlier.and thus the increase which has an adverse effect to the common business man and common man at large.
streetwise
#978 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:19:59 AM
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Refer back to 1992 and the state of the economy then.

To jerk your mind , interest rates were at 40%.

Now research
Ericsson
#979 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:24:23 AM
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Results of one year treasury bond issue;
Government issued a one year bond for a total amount of sh.20bn.Bids received amounted to ksh.31.48bn and total amount accepted was ksh.20.490bn.
Coupon rate is 22.954%
Purpose of the fund was new borrowing.

182-day treasury bill amount offered was ksh.4bn,bids received was ksh.4.877bn and amount accepted was ksh.4.868bn.
Interest rate is 22.292%
Purpose of the fund was rollover/redemptions.

364-day treasury bill amount offered was ksh.4bn,bids received was ksh.20.64bn and amount accepted was ksh.16.259bn.
Interest rate is 22.599%
Purpose of the fund was net repayment/new borrowing.


Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
pops
#980 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:34:50 AM
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The president does not get it. His latest directive in vetting KRA officers is like shooting the goose that lays the golden eggs. It will create unnecessary tension and witch hunting within KRA and cause collection to drop even further. He needs to seriously cut back spending, especially pointless entertainment and travel, county level extreme corruption and so called infrastructure white elephants that are gobbling cash without tangible results I.e Konza city, galana, SGR. Reduce counties to 11 if need be to cut costs. If not I agreed we are going to sink so fast in debt and be an African Greece in waiting!!
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